I think Aliona came to Strictly and pushed the boundaries for a female in terms of modernising the choreography much like Artem has. I reminder on her first dance in her first series were she did an illegal lift and Craig gave her a right telling off. I think she was disliked from the start.
Aliona speaks out...
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I don't think there's anything wrong with Aliona having her say, whether she's given an interview or whether the reporter has got the info from another source she's agreed with what they have written. I've enjoyed watching her dance with Tony and teaching an older celeb it's been interesting to watch. The judges could have been a lot more supportive to an older man who had never danced before. If Aliona is no longer in Strictly (and I don't think she will be after this year) I don't think I'll bother watching it's becoming a bit pantomime the scoring is up the wall and it's just no longer the show I have loved for over 10 years.
Originally Posted by Gill_Brett:
“I don't think there's anything wrong with Aliona having her say, whether she's given an interview or whether the reporter has got the info from another source she's agreed with what they have written. I've enjoyed watching her dance with Tony and teaching an older celeb it's been interesting to watch. The judges could have been a lot more supportive to an older man who had never danced before. If Aliona is no longer in Strictly (and I don't think she will be after this year) I don't think I'll bother watching it's becoming a bit pantomime the scoring is up the wall and it's just no longer the show I have loved for over 10 years.”
“I don't think there's anything wrong with Aliona having her say, whether she's given an interview or whether the reporter has got the info from another source she's agreed with what they have written. I've enjoyed watching her dance with Tony and teaching an older celeb it's been interesting to watch. The judges could have been a lot more supportive to an older man who had never danced before. If Aliona is no longer in Strictly (and I don't think she will be after this year) I don't think I'll bother watching it's becoming a bit pantomime the scoring is up the wall and it's just no longer the show I have loved for over 10 years.”
I don't either
Originally Posted by suelovesshoes:
“If my employer said that they would have to ‘let me go’ a year ago, I would have great pleasure in telling them to efffffff off if they realised later that they actually needed me back! She wasn’t good enough last year.......hahaha, I’d love to see them grovelling!”
“If my employer said that they would have to ‘let me go’ a year ago, I would have great pleasure in telling them to efffffff off if they realised later that they actually needed me back! She wasn’t good enough last year.......hahaha, I’d love to see them grovelling!”
I'd probably do the same. Perhaps Aliona had personal reasons for coming back.
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“This is a great way to ensure she will not be back.
Bite the hand that feeds you, never a good idea.
So what did James do wrong then, or Karen, what did Anton do wrong in previous years, I think it's all luck of the draw.”
“This is a great way to ensure she will not be back.
Bite the hand that feeds you, never a good idea.
So what did James do wrong then, or Karen, what did Anton do wrong in previous years, I think it's all luck of the draw.”
Getting paired with the "comedy turn" is no bad thing.
Karen did a great job on the last Tour paired with Phil Tufnell, and James has had "BBC staffers" as partners before - ho got Alex Jones a lot further than she might have gone,
Strictly is Panto on screen, and we don't know how the pro's are perceived off-screen.
Actors like George Clooney and Michael Caine always pride themselves for "turning up an time and doing what they are told, when told to do it".
It is my belief that what you see on screen from the Pro's (especially the "bad boys" like James & Brendan) is very unlikely to be how they behave off-screen.
The only time we tend to see any "off" comments from some of the Pro's is when the Tour is being set up, as obviously not all the Pro's can tour so some will be left out, and this is especially hard if they are professional, or personal couples.
I don't get why some people think she was miffed? I think she is just telling it like it is - asked to come back just to fill in - give her the celebrity most likely to go first - get her back off the screen again , hey presto - situation resolved . . I thought she did so well previously on this show and was really good with Tony that she would have had a chance of coming back and saying this to a magazine was unwise but I suspect she's very aware they are using her short term .I think , as has already been commented on. that she's more getting at the way the BBC treats people which I totally agree with and good on her for having the guts to say it.
Originally Posted by edy10:
“She lives in the Us. I really, really hope that Dwts do not recruit her as one of our pros or even Troupe member but I won't be surprised if they do. I hope not !”
“She lives in the Us. I really, really hope that Dwts do not recruit her as one of our pros or even Troupe member but I won't be surprised if they do. I hope not !”
She couldn't get on DWTS to begin with. They only allowed her to be a fill in years ago when they were doing their DWTS tour. She didn't make it on SYTYCD-US so there's really no where for her to go. Las Vegas isn't calling.
It seems she became full of herself after winning with 2 popular celebrities. Maybe she thought they would keep giving her contenders and they didn't so now she's lashing out. This girl needs to remember that every time she opens her mouth she's also speaking to future employers if she wants to stay dancing on TV shows. There's far to many better dancers waiting for a chance and she's thrown the little she had away. I don't think Katya was treated well either and she didn't have contenders yet she has moved on and kept her dignity about the situation.
I can't believe every word of the article, but Ali more than likely said enough for the media to run with it and interpret it in the worst possible way to get more press.
Her comments seem quite strange now. If she felt that way (that they didn't want her there & therefore wanted her out asap), then why did she agree to come back & then complain when this eventually happened as she expected?!! Someone has to be eliminated first, why should she be exempt?
Also, TPTB need to seriously reconsider their celeb selection process. Tony Jacklin appeared to be in no fit state to cope with such a demanding schedule - poor balance, sweating. breathlessness - he couldn't have coped with another week!
Also, TPTB need to seriously reconsider their celeb selection process. Tony Jacklin appeared to be in no fit state to cope with such a demanding schedule - poor balance, sweating. breathlessness - he couldn't have coped with another week!
Originally Posted by cmazza:
“ I reminder on her first dance in her first series were she did an illegal lift and Craig gave her a right telling off. I think she was disliked from the start.”
“ I reminder on her first dance in her first series were she did an illegal lift and Craig gave her a right telling off. I think she was disliked from the start.”
That's very possible, esp if you're a stickler for rules as the judges are meant to be and so too as some of the audience will be as well.
The only other Pros that I can remember that did illegal lifts (where on purpose or not) was Brendan and Karen. Brendan was told off b y Craig, and Karen was told off too at the time, but it doesn't semed to have followed Karen like it has (maybe) Aliona, and well Brendan, he's managed to overcome all his moments on the show over time.
Originally Posted by Miriam_R:
“That's very possible, esp if you're a stickler for rules as the judges are meant to be and so too as some of the audience will be as well.
The only other Pros that I can remember that did illegal lifts (where on purpose or not) was Brendan and Karen. Brendan was told off b y Craig, and Karen was told off too at the time, but it doesn't semed to have followed Karen like it has (maybe) Aliona, and well Brendan, he's managed to overcome all his moments on the show over time.”
“That's very possible, esp if you're a stickler for rules as the judges are meant to be and so too as some of the audience will be as well.
The only other Pros that I can remember that did illegal lifts (where on purpose or not) was Brendan and Karen. Brendan was told off b y Craig, and Karen was told off too at the time, but it doesn't semed to have followed Karen like it has (maybe) Aliona, and well Brendan, he's managed to overcome all his moments on the show over time.”
Pretty sure Artem did one as well. Don't ask me on which dance though.
Its not like what she is saying is totally implausible, how do you think midget Kristina got Ben. I'd imagine Natalie was going to be his partner and the minute she pulls out rather than give him Aliona they shuffle them around and she gets a dud while Kristina gets a good few weeks in the show.
Originally Posted by cmazza:
“I think Aliona came to Strictly and pushed the boundaries for a female in terms of modernising the choreography much like Artem has. I reminder on her first dance in her first series were she did an illegal lift and Craig gave her a right telling off. I think she was disliked from the start.”
“I think Aliona came to Strictly and pushed the boundaries for a female in terms of modernising the choreography much like Artem has. I reminder on her first dance in her first series were she did an illegal lift and Craig gave her a right telling off. I think she was disliked from the start.”
She started off on the wrong foot right at the beginning and got up a lot of people's backs with her disdainful attitude of the rules .
It's not just the fact that she did an illegal lift but she deliberately included the lift knowing it was not allowed .
I think they showed her using the lift in training and some on here tweeted her and told her it was not allowed and would lose them points . I'm sure she stated afterwards she knew it was wrong but went ahead and included it.
Plus she said she doesn't pay any attention to what the judges say which really got their goat, especially Len.
Originally Posted by Paace:
“ ... It's not just the fact that she did an illegal lift but she deliberately included the lift knowing it was not allowed .”
“ ... It's not just the fact that she did an illegal lift but she deliberately included the lift knowing it was not allowed .”
Something Brendon never did (more than a couple of times a season, or so it seemed) during the early years.
Originally Posted by blackflier:
“Pretty sure Artem did one as well. Don't ask me on which dance though.”
“Pretty sure Artem did one as well. Don't ask me on which dance though.
”
I forogt about Artem (so can't remeber the dance either), though I do remember Kara lifted her foot off the ground (by mistake, rather than it being off the ground for a lift) though, again, can't remember that dance either. Do remember when Artem peeved Len off with is American Smooth which wasn't in hold enough. So fair to say that more than a couple of the Pros have had their moments of annoying someone (judge or public, or both).
Originally Posted by nanscombe:
“Something Brendon never did (more than a couple of times a season, or so it seemed) during the early years.”
“Something Brendon never did (more than a couple of times a season, or so it seemed) during the early years.”
Of course, I'm no fan of Brendan but why do you think the producers keep him .
Because he's turned into a well behaved pro dancer I suspect. 
James Jordan was also a naughty boy of course.
I suppose naughty boys and girls kept the interest in the shows during the early years, now they seem to rely on non-dancing celebrities who are liked by the public.
James Jordan was also a naughty boy of course.
I suppose naughty boys and girls kept the interest in the shows during the early years, now they seem to rely on non-dancing celebrities who are liked by the public.
Originally Posted by Paace:
“She started off on the wrong foot right at the beginning and got up a lot of people's backs with her disdainful attitude of the rules .
It's not just the fact that she did an illegal lift but she deliberately included the lift knowing it was not allowed .
I think they showed her using the lift in training and some on here tweeted her and told her it was not allowed and would lose them points . I'm sure she stated afterwards she knew it was wrong but went ahead and included it.
Plus she said she doesn't pay any attention to what the judges say which really got their goat, especially Len.”
“She started off on the wrong foot right at the beginning and got up a lot of people's backs with her disdainful attitude of the rules .
It's not just the fact that she did an illegal lift but she deliberately included the lift knowing it was not allowed .
I think they showed her using the lift in training and some on here tweeted her and told her it was not allowed and would lose them points . I'm sure she stated afterwards she knew it was wrong but went ahead and included it.
Plus she said she doesn't pay any attention to what the judges say which really got their goat, especially Len.”
That was Karen Hauer who kept an illegal lift in the Waltz with Nicky Byrne after being warned about it.
This is Len praising Brendan for putting an illegal lift in a routine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm8e2ZbRYcg
Aliona insisted that the move in her first Tango with Rav was a jump. Technically if Aliona can jump into that position, its a jump, but if she gets higher through assistance from Rav, it becomes a lift.
Originally Posted by Paace:
“She started off on the wrong foot right at the beginning and got up a lot of people's backs with her disdainful attitude of the rules .
It's not just the fact that she did an illegal lift but she deliberately included the lift knowing it was not allowed .
I think they showed her using the lift in training and some on here tweeted her and told her it was not allowed and would lose them points . I'm sure she stated afterwards she knew it was wrong but went ahead and included it.
Plus she said she doesn't pay any attention to what the judges say which really got their goat, especially Len.”
“She started off on the wrong foot right at the beginning and got up a lot of people's backs with her disdainful attitude of the rules .
It's not just the fact that she did an illegal lift but she deliberately included the lift knowing it was not allowed .
I think they showed her using the lift in training and some on here tweeted her and told her it was not allowed and would lose them points . I'm sure she stated afterwards she knew it was wrong but went ahead and included it.
Plus she said she doesn't pay any attention to what the judges say which really got their goat, especially Len.”
that was Karen!!!!!! she put a lift in her waltz with Nicky, it was shown in training and lots of people tweeted her and told her but she said she was keeping it - not Aliona!
I think the dance with Alijaz was lovely and of course Aliona shows she's a great dancer, which I don't think people have ever had anything against (on the Pro/Pro side, as opposed to the Pro/celeb side). I wonder if Natalie Lowe returns if whether Aliona will stay dancing in pro numbers (as I suppose it will even things up on the Pro side). Or if she exits the show for good once Nat is back for good.
Originally Posted by mossy2103:
“Yes, isn't she.
Very unwise comments, and it's now a racing certainty that she will not be back next year. And she'll only be appearing in pro dances this year because of her contract (I bet that the BBC would dearly love to find a reason for her not to appear, as would any employer in a similar situation). But of course, she will still get paid for her later appearances .... she should count herself lucky in that she received a second bite of the cherry.
She has lost any respect that I had for her.”
“Yes, isn't she.
Very unwise comments, and it's now a racing certainty that she will not be back next year. And she'll only be appearing in pro dances this year because of her contract (I bet that the BBC would dearly love to find a reason for her not to appear, as would any employer in a similar situation). But of course, she will still get paid for her later appearances .... she should count herself lucky in that she received a second bite of the cherry.
She has lost any respect that I had for her.”
As soon as Natalie is fit to dance again, she will be taking her rightful place in the Pro dances and Aliona will be out on her ear. I doubt she got offered the full rate for coming back as they knew Natalie would be able to at least join the pro dances - she did all the rehearsals for them and only had to withdraw just before the series started. They probably tried several other Pros first before having to offer the temporary job to Aliona.
The lift (s?) in Anton and Laila's Paso.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATSOT4WUnQo
So it happens quite a lot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATSOT4WUnQo
So it happens quite a lot.
Originally Posted by fatskia:
“That was Karen Hauer who kept an illegal lift in the Waltz with Nicky Byrne after being warned about it.
This is Len praising Brendan for putting an illegal lift in a routine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm8e2ZbRYcg
Aliona insisted that the move in her first Tango with Rav was a jump. Technically if Aliona can jump into that position, its a jump, but if she gets higher through assistance from Rav, it becomes a lift.”
“That was Karen Hauer who kept an illegal lift in the Waltz with Nicky Byrne after being warned about it.
This is Len praising Brendan for putting an illegal lift in a routine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm8e2ZbRYcg
Aliona insisted that the move in her first Tango with Rav was a jump. Technically if Aliona can jump into that position, its a jump, but if she gets higher through assistance from Rav, it becomes a lift.”
Len is an inconsistant joke of a judge . You don't know where you are with him from one week to the next . One week he'll allow an illegal lift then out of the blue he gets all tough and says from now on they'll be penalised.
It seems more acceptable for the boys to bend/break the rules. I just think with her bright hair and new ideas/style were too much for the beeb.
Originally Posted by Force Ten:
“As soon as Natalie is fit to dance again, she will be taking her rightful place in the Pro dances and Aliona will be out on her ear. I doubt she got offered the full rate for coming back as they knew Natalie would be able to at least join the pro dances - she did all the rehearsals for them and only had to withdraw just before the series started. They probably tried several other Pros first before having to offer the temporary job to Aliona.”
“As soon as Natalie is fit to dance again, she will be taking her rightful place in the Pro dances and Aliona will be out on her ear. I doubt she got offered the full rate for coming back as they knew Natalie would be able to at least join the pro dances - she did all the rehearsals for them and only had to withdraw just before the series started. They probably tried several other Pros first before having to offer the temporary job to Aliona.”
I hate to disappoint you but Aliona is doing pro dances until the end - and that has come from her
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