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Old 17-11-2008, 23:25
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Given that Bruce is a tv legend and a ratings god since the sixties there might be a few who think your being a touch harsh!
Since when has age equated to quality? Have you seen how much he's paid aswell? It really streches the term Dependant on Experience.

To be honest I think SCD feels cheaper then Dancing On Ice. Have you seen the hard back chairs the judges sit on? And they use paddles while Dancing On Ice use electronic scoring. The whole set is very TV-ish. Looks glitzy, but is really a flatpack from IKEA.

And before you say anything I love SCD.
And Bruno's leg hangs out the end of the desk!

I quite like the classic look about it though, it looks really cosy. There were rumuors they were going to the Eurovision Dance Contest studio at the end of last yr. The DOI studio reminds me of a club I used to go to in Watford.
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Old 17-11-2008, 23:26
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The whole set is very TV-ish. Looks glitzy, but is really a flatpack from IKEA.
No doubt, but the whole set-up, ambience and production values of SCD simply ooze quality. Like dinner at the Ritz.

Dancing on Ice is like a visit to TGI Fridays.

Not that I've frequented either...
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Old 17-11-2008, 23:29
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On the subject of Strictly, News at Ten gave it some free publicity tonight as John's controversial success on the show was the 'and finally' item.
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Old 17-11-2008, 23:30
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And Bruno's leg hangs out the end of the desk!

I quite like the classic look about it though, it looks really cosy. There were rumuors they were going to the Eurovision Dance Contest Studio at the end of last yr. The DOI studio reminds me of a club I used to go to in Watford.
It is a good look. And Dancing On Ice is very modern in comparison. But I think they work well for their perspective shows.

No doubt, but the whole set-up, ambience and production values of SCD simply ooze quality. Like dinner at the Ritz.
Though judging fromt the competition so far there is a severe risk of food poisonig.

Dancing on Ice is like a visit to TGI Fridays.
Nope, I disagree. I think Dancing On Ice is the Ritz as well...it's just got a special room for sadists.

Not that I've frequented either...
You just side with the BBC. No surprise there.
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Old 17-11-2008, 23:39
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Dancing on Ice is like a visit to TGI Fridays.
Actually, it's more like US restaurant chain Hooters: www.hooters.com

Ah, now I'm going to be thinking about Holly Willoughby's breasts for the next couple of hours...
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Old 17-11-2008, 23:41
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Actually, it's more like US restaurant chain Hooters: www.hooters.com

Ah, now I'm going to be thinking about Holly Willoughby's breasts for the next couple of hours...
You'll really don't need much of an imagination for them.
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Old 17-11-2008, 23:47
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- apart from Lewis, and 2 bought-in sporting events, there's little real quality in ITV's top shows, it's all lowest-common denominator tat. Contrast with the quality and middle-brow programming in BBC1's top 10, EastEnders aside. ITV1 is clearly the Asda to BBC1's Sainsbury's.
I'm never a big fan of the whole sneering debate about "high brow" productions. But this was just too much for me to pass up on!

Are you perhaps equating "high brow" with targeted at old people? I'm looking at the BBC top 10, and on the basis that Lewis is the only "real quality" show in the ITV top 10, then I'm only seeing New Tricks and Doctor Who as equal to it. A sexed up Antiques Roadshow, celebrity driven reality show, charity telethon, business RTV show masquerading as "high brow" factual programming and a "rip-off" soap are not screaming "high brow" to me.

On the SCD vs DOI debate, DOI can't really attempt to go for cosy and intimate because the nature of the ice skating requires a considerably larger performance area.
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Old 18-11-2008, 00:09
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Are you perhaps equating "high brow" with targeted at old people? I'm looking at the BBC top 10, and on the basis that Lewis is the only "real quality" show in the ITV top 10, then I'm only seeing New Tricks and Doctor Who as equal to it. A sexed up Antiques Roadshow, celebrity driven reality show, charity telethon, business RTV show masquerading as "high brow" factual programming and a "rip-off" soap are not screaming "high brow" to me.
But SCD, Antiques Roadshow, The Apprentice etc probably appeal to a more upmarket audience than IACGMOH, BGT, DOI etc. (In terms of ABC 1 viewers).
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Old 18-11-2008, 00:17
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But SCD, Antiques Roadshow, The Apprentice etc probably appeal to a more upmarket audience than IACGMOH, BGT, DOI etc. (In terms of ABC 1 viewers).
I expect they do, though they would probably get less on ITV1. I have little doubt that The One and Only was getting similar ABC1 ratings to Channel 4 News! Even A Touch of Frost was reported recently as having 38% ABC1's, which is about the same as XF gets and a fair bit lower than SCD.

But appealing to ABC1 viewers doesn't make a "high brow" programme. It gets very muddled when you actually look at raw numbers. More ABC1 viewers watch Big Brother than watch Newsnight... is Big Brother therefore more "high brow" than Newsnight?!
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Old 18-11-2008, 00:18
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But SCD, Antiques Roadshow, The Apprentice etc probably appeal to a more upmarket audience than IACGMOH, BGT, DOI etc. (In terms of ABC 1 viewers).
Funny you should say that. Broadcast had this to say about the debut of this year's I'm A Celebrity.

Last night's show was a big attraction for both upmarket and younger viewers. ABC1 viewers made up 44% of the show's audience while those aged between 16 and 34 accounted for 26% of those watching the show.
http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/rating..._with_89m.html
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Old 18-11-2008, 00:40
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Australian Ratings Update: "Out of the Blue" premieres in Oz

Seven
10.30pm Out of the Question 444,000

Ten
10.30pm Out of the Blue (Monday) 372,000

Could be worse. But Ten Late News was getting 400-500k each night in this slot.
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Old 18-11-2008, 00:52
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Australian Ratings Update: "Out of the Blue" premieres in Oz

Seven
10.30pm Out of the Question 444,000

Ten
10.30pm Out of the Blue (Monday) 372,000

Could be worse. But Ten Late News was getting 400-500k each night in this slot.
Seems more than it was getting in the UK, to be fair.
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Old 18-11-2008, 00:54
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But appealing to ABC1 viewers doesn't make a "high brow" programme. It gets very muddled when you actually look at raw numbers. More ABC1 viewers watch Big Brother than watch Newsnight... is Big Brother therefore more "high brow" than Newsnight?!
Well thats when the percentages come in to play, surely?
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Old 18-11-2008, 01:05
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5 minute peaks:
Antiques Roadshow: 11.5m
I'm a Celebrity: 9.5m
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Old 18-11-2008, 01:16
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5 minute peaks:
Antiques Roadshow: 11.5m
I'm a Celebrity: 9.5m
I suppose that was for the £1m discovery? That's absolutely astounding. I think AR is very much like Heartbeat/The Royal, though. It depends on the opposition and the lead in/run on for it's success. I can't believe the programme'll sustain that once Strictly Come Dancing finishes, and ITV bring back Dancing On Ice.
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Old 18-11-2008, 02:41
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- the best may still be to come for BBC1 - it should get 12m or so for SCD. EE might get 12-13m for its Christmas Day episode. Doctor Who's Xmas showing should see its ratings increase (unless it's actually called "Doctor Who: The Next Doctor", in which case BARB will presumably include Doctor Who twice...? ). Wallace & Gromit's new adventure should get 10m. The Royle Family might get 10m too on Christmas Day. The Royal Variety will rate well, depending what day it is shown. Jonathan Creek could get 9m. CIN might just get to 10m in the officials (but I doubt it). What else has ITV got to look forward to in 2008, other than TXF possibly bettering its 11.65m?
That may be underestimating it actually. Last year at Xmas EE had 14.38 million and DW had 13.31M, and methinks it's likely they'll get similar figures this year.
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Old 18-11-2008, 10:31
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Is there any way of finding out what individual shows on Setanta are drawing? I'm interested in finding out how some of the football matches and live UFC shows are doing.
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Old 18-11-2008, 11:15
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Why do the DS ratings round-up writers think the audience numbers for "Location, Location" is the headline for last night?
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Old 18-11-2008, 11:25
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I hope we get the News at Ten ratings reported by somebody this week... will be interesting to see how much its audience increases now that IAC is on.
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Old 18-11-2008, 11:39
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I hope we get the News at Ten ratings reported by somebody this week... will be interesting to see how much its audience increases now that IAC is on.
Contact DS and ask them to report the News ratings at 10pm. They've started to report the Neighbours ratings after someone contacted them. Though, it might just be coincidental.
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Old 18-11-2008, 11:39
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Why do the DS ratings round-up writers think the audience numbers for "Location, Location" is the headline for last night?
It might get a bit boring making a soap or I'm A Celebrity the main story all the time just because they get the highest ratings of the evening? Just a suggestion. But having said that I thought Antiques Roadshow was the biggest story on Sunday and was surprised it didn't get the banner headline.
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Old 18-11-2008, 13:29
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What does everyone think the return of Celebrity Big Brother will get this January?

I'm hopeing the fact that it's been off air for 2 years now and the fact that the last series attracted so much interest because of the race row will help it attract 6 million for the launch and 4 million for the highlights, like it's parent show used to get in the old days.

But the nation's contempt for the show in recent years will probably insure that it only recieves a small boost of a a few hundred thousand viewers, if that.
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Old 18-11-2008, 13:49
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Strictly Come Dancing: It takes Two got 3.4m (16%). The highest reported ratings for this series and the last.

Source: Broadcast.
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Old 18-11-2008, 13:51
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Don't know how it compares to previous nights, but News at Ten got 3.4 million last night, compared to BBC News 4.5 million.
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Old 18-11-2008, 13:59
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Don't know how it compares to previous nights, but News at Ten got 3.4 million last night, compared to BBC News 4.5 million.
The wonders of John Sergeant hey!
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