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The Ratings Thread (Part 3 (1))
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GeorgeS
18-11-2008
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“Its correct title is BBC News at Ten. ”

Sounds like plagarism to me. I wonder how they thought that title up
GeorgeS
18-11-2008
IAC last night
3.0m 36.4% ABC1
1.9m 23% 16 -34
Dancc
18-11-2008
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“IAC last night
3.0m 36.4% ABC1
1.9m 23% 16 -34”

Surprised the 16-34 share isn't a wee bit higher, but still, a strong performance in the key demos.
AGNUS_BROWN
18-11-2008
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Sounds like plagarism to me. I wonder how they thought that title up ”

I wonder how ITV thought of 'Natural born sellers', 'Dancing on Ice', 'You don't know your Born' ??
Dancc
18-11-2008
Originally Posted by AGNUS_BROWN:
“I wonder how ITV thought of 'Natural born sellers', 'Dancing on Ice', 'You don't know your Born' ??”

You're scraping the barrel a bit with those, it has to be said. What about Fortune: Million Pound Giveaway, now that was a 'classic' ITV copycat show.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YC-fNJKKXkU
Polonius
18-11-2008
Originally Posted by AGNUS_BROWN:
“I wonder how ITV thought of 'Natural born sellers', 'Dancing on Ice', 'You don't know your Born' ??”

That would be You're, Agnus dearest.
Moloko
18-11-2008
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“Its correct title is BBC News at Ten. ”

But last year, or a few years ago, in TV listings, it wasn't called that. Why recently has it been renamed? I thought the ITV 10pm news bulletin was known at News At Ten?
D.M.N.
18-11-2008
Taken From rzt's five-minute ratings and put into Graph - 17:30 to 23:00 - BBC1 vs ITV1
Saturday 1st November 2008 - http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?im...stnov08pa6.jpg
Sunday 2nd November 2008 - http://img357.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ndnov08qp8.jpg
Saturday 8th November 2008 - http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?i...thnov08vb1.jpg

NEW ADDITION
Saturday 15th November 2008 - http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?im...15thnovtp5.jpg
Agent F
18-11-2008
Originally Posted by Moloko:
“Can someone, if possible, answer this question which has been bugging me for while.

Why did the BBC rename its 10pm news bulletin from Ten O'Clock News to News At Ten? What did they think they were going to get out of it? ”

It's to emphasise 'BBC News' as a brand. So the BBC Six O'Clock News is now BBC News at Six and so on and so forth. That's why News 24 is no longer News 24 even though everyone I know still calls it News 24.
KaptainKitten
18-11-2008
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“ITV1's Monday primetime share increases, but BBC One's hardly falls.

I'm a Celeb improves dramatically on last Monday's 9pm offering, but Spooks is hardly affected.

Just goes to show ITV1's problems are not down to BBC One's success. ITV1's problems are due to the increase in the number of commercial rivals, and some disctinctly lacklustre programming on ITV1 in key slots over the course of the year, in recent years.

So, next time ITV1 has a bad (night/day/week/month/year/decade*) it would be nice if people didn't try to blame the BBC.


*Delete as applicable.”

I would say the BBC has far greater problems looking at their ratings.

A fraction of the country watching is hardly impressive. It just seems that way as a percentage of total viewers.
Spike555
18-11-2008
Originally Posted by Digital Sid:
“What does everyone think the return of Celebrity Big Brother will get this January?

I'm hopeing the fact that it's been off air for 2 years now and the fact that the last series attracted so much interest because of the race row will help it attract 6 million for the launch and 4 million for the highlights, like it's parent show used to get in the old days.

But the nation's contempt for the show in recent years will probably insure that it only recieves a small boost of a a few hundred thousand viewers, if that.”

I think it will do well, its obvious at the moment that the reality shows ratings are on the up.
With no CBB last year and the rumoured line-up looking good then it could do really well with the right promotion. If there are some huge celebrities going in I would do some adverts revealing those celebrities like they did in Australia revealing the contestants last series.
I think it will get over 6million and if successful it will increase the summer ratings so CBB6 is very important for the shows future
Pizzatheaction
18-11-2008
Originally Posted by KaptainKitten:
“I would say the BBC has far greater problems looking at their ratings.

A fraction of the country watching is hardly impressive. It just seems that way as a percentage of total viewers.”

I think 86 hundredths, just for BBC One and Two's weekly reach combined, is not a bad fraction.
GeorgeS
18-11-2008
Originally Posted by AGNUS_BROWN:
“I wonder how ITV thought of 'Natural born sellers', 'Dancing on Ice', 'You don't know your Born' ??”

Hole In The Wall = sub standard Tiswas remake

Of course BBC News copied ITN by putting newsreaders in vision. It has been all down hill from there
GeorgeS
18-11-2008
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“I think 86 hundredths, just for BBC One and Two's weekly reach combined, is not a bad fraction. ”

The BBC seems to down play reach in favour of absolute ratings figures these days. It should be their key measure and not just the 15 minute reach number either.
Pizzatheaction
18-11-2008
Any thoughts on ratings for Parents of the Band beginning Friday 28th on BBC One?

When it was first commissioned, the BBC Press Office described it as a sitcom, but now it's been filmed, they're describing it as a drama. Doesn't bode well, does it?

Looking at RT today, it's described as a sitcom on one page, but described as a comedy drama on another page.
Pizzatheaction
18-11-2008
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“The BBC seems to down play reach in favour of absolute ratings figures these days. It should be their key measure and not just the 15 minute reach number either.”

I wish BARB would report the reaches a bit better. I can't find a total BBC reach, only a BBC One/Two reach.

There's a total Sky reach, but no total ITV reach.
C14E
18-11-2008
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“Any thoughts on ratings for Parents of the Band beginning Friday 28th on BBC One?

When it was first commissioned, the BBC Press Office described it as a sitcom, but now it's been filmed, they're describing it as a drama. Doesn't bode well, does it?

Looking at RT today, it's described as a sitcom on one page, but described as a comedy drama on another page.”

"Comedy drama" doesn't bode well. I would count something like Echo Beach as comedy drama in that it was meant to be drama but ended up more comedy than Moving Wallpaper largely due to the accidental comedy of the drama. (and yes, I said "comedy" and "drama" an awful lot!)
GeorgeS
18-11-2008
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“ but described as a comedy drama”


Usually means its not funny & there isn't much drama in it either. Beware the hybrids.
C14E
18-11-2008
http://www.itvmedia.co.uk/default.as...6&subpage=6744

"Indeed, the average monthly reach of the ITV family of channels has reached a whopping 92% of UK adults."

(20 consecutive minutes)
GeorgeS
18-11-2008
Originally Posted by C14E:
“http://www.itvmedia.co.uk/default.as...6&subpage=6744

"Indeed, the average monthly reach of the ITV family of channels has reached a whopping 92% of UK adults."

(20 consecutive minutes)”

The 8% must be on DS posting "I never watch ITV"
Pizzatheaction
18-11-2008
Originally Posted by C14E:
“"Comedy drama" doesn't bode well. I would count something like Echo Beach as comedy drama in that it was meant to be drama but ended up more comedy than Moving Wallpaper largely due to the accidental comedy of the drama. (and yes, I said "comedy" and "drama" an awful lot!)”



Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Usually means its not funny & there isn't much drama in it either. Beware the hybrids. ”


I agree with you both. I fear a Jam and Jerusalem situation. Sorry to to any J&J fans on this thread!
D.M.N.
18-11-2008
So, what, under 3m? If it gets over 5m, I might collapse...... saying that Echo Beach's debut did gain 5m viewers, so a good debut figure does not automatically get you immunity.

On that note, four new episodes of George Gently have been commisioned for next year.

EDIT: Interesting note @ http://www.itv.com/documents/pdf/itv...ring_sport.pdf

The Boat Race is normally on Saturday's (well, this year is was). If the PDF is correct, next year it's live on Sunday 29 March, I'm almost certain it's normally on Saturday's, so ITV it looks like have very cleverly (or not!) moved it to a Sunday. On an interesting note, if that's true, while The Boat Race is on, on BBC1 is likely to be at the same time a re-run of the Australian Grand Prix.

ITV look like they have done that on purpose by asking the organisers if you ask me.
Agent F
18-11-2008
It's been on a Sunday numerous times.
Fudd
18-11-2008
Originally Posted by A Cillay:
“Strictly Come Dancing: It takes Two got 3.4m (16%). The highest reported ratings for this series and the last.

Source: Broadcast.”

Trust me - after the dross tonight it'll sink right back down again.

Originally Posted by Mrs Cee Jay:
“Don't know how it compares to previous nights, but News at Ten got 3.4 million last night, compared to BBC News 4.5 million.”

Great for ITV News at Ten - I'm A Celebrity supplied a better audience for it than Britain's Got Talent, slightly surprised at that.

Originally Posted by davey_wavey:
“I'm really glad Spooks held up well against IAC. I feared that the rating for the show would end up decreasing further to the 4.0 - 4.5 million mark (because of IAC, the chance to watch first look on BBC3, using Iplayer), but it's good that it is staying consistent and maintaining its audience, despite the strong competition from IAC.

IAC is well up on last year which I find rather surprising, as I thought viewers may have found the format a tad repetitive now and it would have suffered a decrease in viewers like Big Brother did but the show did well staying over the 8 million mark and still proves to be a winning formula for ITV primetime.

Looking at the breakdown, Hole In The Wall seemed to be getting 4-5 million on Saturday - am I correct? as I really thought it was performing worse than that ”

I was stunned by IAC's figures, but it was a strong laucnh show, while IIRC last year's was full of Malcolm McLaren having a strop.

Hole in the Wall - just shows rubbish on TV does work, as long as it's on BBC1.
ZoeMcCallister
18-11-2008
HITW has been given a huge boost by TV Burp-that's the only explanation...surely?!

Also Parents Of The Band is going up against Corrie. It's bad enough an established show like After You've Gone going up against it, but something new will flop big time.
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