7.9m is very good for IAC. Generally the Tuesday show dips quite alot. ITV will be very pleased with these ratings.
The Ratings Thread (Part 3 (1))
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Couple of axings:
BBC drops After You've Gone
I agree that it's difficult to air comedies on Friday's 8.30pm due to Corrie. But surely they can air them on another day? E.g. Thursdays 8/8.30pm or even Sundays sandwiched between the Antiques Roadshow and Strictly Come Dancing.
ITV closes doors on Harley Street
No surprise here.
Source: Media Guardian
BBC drops After You've Gone
Quote:
“The BBC has axed Nicholas Lyndhurst family comedy After You've Gone after three series, despite previously announcing that it would return next year.
Writers are understood to have been working on scripts for the fourth series of the BBC1 sitcom for a month and the cast had been booked.
The late cancellation is expected to cost the corporation thousands of pounds.
The move follows the axing of BBC3 comedy drama Phoo Action just days before filming was due to begin on a full series in Scotland.
The BBC confirmed to MediaGuardian.co.uk that After You've Gone would not return, saying the story had come to a natural conclusion.
However, sources said that ITV1's decision to move Coronation Street into the Friday 8.30pm slot had damaged the show's ratings and that there was nowhere else to air it.
It is now feared that it has become almost impossible to launch a new family comedy on BBC1 on Friday nights.
The BBC previously announced in January that the show - which features Lyndhurst as a dad who shares parental duties with his mother-in-law, played by Celia Imrie - had been commissioned for a new series of eight episodes and a Christmas special for this year and a further 10-part run and festive one-off for 2009.
However, the BBC has now said that the series will end this year, with the final episode of the current series airing on Friday and a festive special at Christmas.
"We have decided that the current series of After You've Gone will be the last," a BBC spokeswoman told MediaGuardian.co.uk.
"We are very proud of the programme and its achievements over the past three years but believe it has now come to a natural end."
The spokeswoman added that production had not yet started on next year's series.
Besides the cast having been booked, the crew had been told to block out filming periods for next year. "It was quite a shock it was cancelled," one source said.
It is understood that part of the reason why it had been decided not to go ahead with the new series was because of the burgeoning cost of the production and talent.
Competing with Coronation Street had damaged the show's ratings, and one source said the show was too expensive to be sacrificed to the soap.
The sitcom had become something of a sleeper hit for BBC1 hitting nearly 6 million viewers last year, although ratings had fallen for its current series, with its premiere in September attracting 3.4 million.
One insider said there was now real anxiety at the BBC about launching new family sitcoms because of a lack of decent slots.
The BBC has previously used 8.30pm on a Friday, now taken by ITV1 for Coronation Street, and Sunday teatime at 6pm, although audiences have not been strong.
"Trying to sustain any sitcom against Coronation Street is difficult," the insider said. "After You've Gone was quite an expensive show to put up against it and you are not going to get the returns. You want to put something cheaper up against such a powerful show."
The source added: "There is a big problem in that the family sitcom is potentially over. Where do you launch a new one?
"My Family was launched in the days before this problem. It is pretty tricky to launch a show these days."
After You've Gone was originally commissioned by former BBC1 controller Peter Fincham, with the two further runs ordered by former BBC2 controller Roly Keating while he was acting controller of the channel last year.
However, sources said that a further reason for its axing was that new BBC1 controller Jay Hunt wanted to put more of her own stamp on the schedule. "Jay has come in and said she wants to start again," one source said.
After You've Gone, made in-house by the BBC, was created by Fred Barron, also the creative force behind hit comedy My Family.
The BBC spokeswoman said that BBC1 had a number of other comedies lined up for next year including the return of The Omid Djalili Show, Not Going Out and new commissions such as Old Guys, Life of Riley and Perrin.”
“The BBC has axed Nicholas Lyndhurst family comedy After You've Gone after three series, despite previously announcing that it would return next year.
Writers are understood to have been working on scripts for the fourth series of the BBC1 sitcom for a month and the cast had been booked.
The late cancellation is expected to cost the corporation thousands of pounds.
The move follows the axing of BBC3 comedy drama Phoo Action just days before filming was due to begin on a full series in Scotland.
The BBC confirmed to MediaGuardian.co.uk that After You've Gone would not return, saying the story had come to a natural conclusion.
However, sources said that ITV1's decision to move Coronation Street into the Friday 8.30pm slot had damaged the show's ratings and that there was nowhere else to air it.
It is now feared that it has become almost impossible to launch a new family comedy on BBC1 on Friday nights.
The BBC previously announced in January that the show - which features Lyndhurst as a dad who shares parental duties with his mother-in-law, played by Celia Imrie - had been commissioned for a new series of eight episodes and a Christmas special for this year and a further 10-part run and festive one-off for 2009.
However, the BBC has now said that the series will end this year, with the final episode of the current series airing on Friday and a festive special at Christmas.
"We have decided that the current series of After You've Gone will be the last," a BBC spokeswoman told MediaGuardian.co.uk.
"We are very proud of the programme and its achievements over the past three years but believe it has now come to a natural end."
The spokeswoman added that production had not yet started on next year's series.
Besides the cast having been booked, the crew had been told to block out filming periods for next year. "It was quite a shock it was cancelled," one source said.
It is understood that part of the reason why it had been decided not to go ahead with the new series was because of the burgeoning cost of the production and talent.
Competing with Coronation Street had damaged the show's ratings, and one source said the show was too expensive to be sacrificed to the soap.
The sitcom had become something of a sleeper hit for BBC1 hitting nearly 6 million viewers last year, although ratings had fallen for its current series, with its premiere in September attracting 3.4 million.
One insider said there was now real anxiety at the BBC about launching new family sitcoms because of a lack of decent slots.
The BBC has previously used 8.30pm on a Friday, now taken by ITV1 for Coronation Street, and Sunday teatime at 6pm, although audiences have not been strong.
"Trying to sustain any sitcom against Coronation Street is difficult," the insider said. "After You've Gone was quite an expensive show to put up against it and you are not going to get the returns. You want to put something cheaper up against such a powerful show."
The source added: "There is a big problem in that the family sitcom is potentially over. Where do you launch a new one?
"My Family was launched in the days before this problem. It is pretty tricky to launch a show these days."
After You've Gone was originally commissioned by former BBC1 controller Peter Fincham, with the two further runs ordered by former BBC2 controller Roly Keating while he was acting controller of the channel last year.
However, sources said that a further reason for its axing was that new BBC1 controller Jay Hunt wanted to put more of her own stamp on the schedule. "Jay has come in and said she wants to start again," one source said.
After You've Gone, made in-house by the BBC, was created by Fred Barron, also the creative force behind hit comedy My Family.
The BBC spokeswoman said that BBC1 had a number of other comedies lined up for next year including the return of The Omid Djalili Show, Not Going Out and new commissions such as Old Guys, Life of Riley and Perrin.”
I agree that it's difficult to air comedies on Friday's 8.30pm due to Corrie. But surely they can air them on another day? E.g. Thursdays 8/8.30pm or even Sundays sandwiched between the Antiques Roadshow and Strictly Come Dancing.
ITV closes doors on Harley Street
Quote:
“ITV has confirmed that it has axed medical drama Harley Street after just one series.
The drama, which starred Paul Nicholls and Suranne Jones as upscale doctors in a private medical practice, failed to pull in the ratings when it aired on ITV1 in the 9pm hour during the summer.
Harley Street launched with 3.9 million viewers and an 18% share in a Thursday slot but ended with just 2.7 million viewers and a 12% share.
The critics were also not impressed - the Guardian's Sam Wollaston described it as "froth without the fun", while Robert Hanks in the Independent said it was "oddly confused".
The ITV director of television, Peter Fincham, confirmed to MediaGuardian.co.uk that the drama, which is made by Hotel Babylon producer Carnival, would not return for a second series.
"Harley Street is not coming back," he said. "At any one time, we are commissioning new drama and returning drama and it is a balance."
At the MediaGuardian Edinburgh International Television Festival in August, Fincham said he expected dramas in the 9pm weekday slot to hit 5 million viewers.
Harley Street was one of a number of new ITV1 dramas launched this year that failed to pull in the ratings, including The Palace and Rock Rivals.
The broadcaster yesterday launched a slate of ITV1 dramas for early 2009 including vampire show Demons and Jack the Ripper copycat crime series Whitechapel.”
“ITV has confirmed that it has axed medical drama Harley Street after just one series.
The drama, which starred Paul Nicholls and Suranne Jones as upscale doctors in a private medical practice, failed to pull in the ratings when it aired on ITV1 in the 9pm hour during the summer.
Harley Street launched with 3.9 million viewers and an 18% share in a Thursday slot but ended with just 2.7 million viewers and a 12% share.
The critics were also not impressed - the Guardian's Sam Wollaston described it as "froth without the fun", while Robert Hanks in the Independent said it was "oddly confused".
The ITV director of television, Peter Fincham, confirmed to MediaGuardian.co.uk that the drama, which is made by Hotel Babylon producer Carnival, would not return for a second series.
"Harley Street is not coming back," he said. "At any one time, we are commissioning new drama and returning drama and it is a balance."
At the MediaGuardian Edinburgh International Television Festival in August, Fincham said he expected dramas in the 9pm weekday slot to hit 5 million viewers.
Harley Street was one of a number of new ITV1 dramas launched this year that failed to pull in the ratings, including The Palace and Rock Rivals.
The broadcaster yesterday launched a slate of ITV1 dramas for early 2009 including vampire show Demons and Jack the Ripper copycat crime series Whitechapel.”
No surprise here.
Source: Media Guardian
However, sources said that ITV1's decision to move Coronation Street into the Friday 8.30pm slot had damaged the show's ratings and that there was nowhere else to air it.
At first I thought what rubbish, there are plenty of other times possible to schedule a sitcom. But the more I thought about it the more it became clear that there weren't many other suitable times. It just goes to show how over the past few years the schedules of BBC1 and ITV1 are such that they leave little opportunity for variation.
Years ago you might find a sitcom on any night of the week, but now it seems that Fridays and Sundays are the only possibilities. More effort should be made by BBC1 to make Sunday an established sitcom night. After you've Gone failed on Sunday however it wasn't promoted, but winter sundays on TV are crying out for laughs.
At first I thought what rubbish, there are plenty of other times possible to schedule a sitcom. But the more I thought about it the more it became clear that there weren't many other suitable times. It just goes to show how over the past few years the schedules of BBC1 and ITV1 are such that they leave little opportunity for variation.
Years ago you might find a sitcom on any night of the week, but now it seems that Fridays and Sundays are the only possibilities. More effort should be made by BBC1 to make Sunday an established sitcom night. After you've Gone failed on Sunday however it wasn't promoted, but winter sundays on TV are crying out for laughs.
They could try Wednesday at 8pm, but its a death slot and everyone knows it.
I can understand the position the BBC are in. If they put a comedy in that slot its just going to die and then what is the point in spending a lot of money on it?
I can understand the position the BBC are in. If they put a comedy in that slot its just going to die and then what is the point in spending a lot of money on it?
Not everyone watches Corrie. They seem to get a 40% share which means 60% of people watching TV aren't watching Corrie at that time.
Strictly & Top Gear show you can have two big raters on at the same time.
Strictly & Top Gear show you can have two big raters on at the same time.
Originally Posted by AGNUS_BROWN:
“ITT?
AGNUS.”
“ITT?
AGNUS.”
Stricly Come Dancing: It Take Two.
It was already getting 3.4m, so I can only imagine what it will get tonight, moments after BBC News at Six cover it.
Originally Posted by Cent:
“Stricly Come Dancing: It Take Two.
It was already getting 3.4m, so I can only imagine what it will get tonight, moments after BBC News at Six cover it.”
“Stricly Come Dancing: It Take Two.
It was already getting 3.4m, so I can only imagine what it will get tonight, moments after BBC News at Six cover it.”
It may get 4m
AGNUS.
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“I wonder how this will affect Strictly's ratings.
Sergeant to pull out of Strictly ”
“I wonder how this will affect Strictly's ratings.
Sergeant to pull out of Strictly ”
Good for ITT, probably good for Saturdays show but I'm not sure about after that. From the little I've seen and large amount that I've heard about, the whole show seems to be about John.
Originally Posted by C14E:
“Good for ITT, probably good for Saturdays show but I'm not sure about after that. From the little I've seen and large amount that I've heard about, the whole show seems to be about John.”
“Good for ITT, probably good for Saturdays show but I'm not sure about after that. From the little I've seen and large amount that I've heard about, the whole show seems to be about John.”
No more than The X Factor was all about Daniel.
He just outstayed his welcome a week or two according to the judges.
Originally Posted by Cent:
“No more than The X Factor was all about Daniel.
He just outstayed his welcome a week or two according to the judges.”
“No more than The X Factor was all about Daniel.
He just outstayed his welcome a week or two according to the judges.”
Not really, Daniel was never seen as a potential winner or even getting past another 2 weeks. He was a distant 3rd in terms of talking points on X Factor (behind Diana Vickers and Rachel Hylton). Certainly, when Daniel left XF, nobody on the XF forum batted an eyelid, they just went on debating Diana and Rachel as usual.
Originally Posted by C14E:
“Not really, Daniel was never seen as a potential winner or even getting past another 2 weeks. He was a distant 3rd in terms of talking points on X Factor (behind Diana Vickers and Rachel Hylton). Certainly, when Daniel left XF, nobody on the XF forum batted an eyelid, they just went on debating Diana and Rachel as usual.”
“Not really, Daniel was never seen as a potential winner or even getting past another 2 weeks. He was a distant 3rd in terms of talking points on X Factor (behind Diana Vickers and Rachel Hylton). Certainly, when Daniel left XF, nobody on the XF forum batted an eyelid, they just went on debating Diana and Rachel as usual.”
If Daniel had went through one more week and quit it would have been the same though.
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“I wonder how this will affect Strictly's ratings.
Sergeant to pull out of Strictly ”
“I wonder how this will affect Strictly's ratings.
Sergeant to pull out of Strictly ”
The only reason I watched the whole of SCD was to watch John's dance, And I suspect alot of others were doing the same, I can see SCD pulling in mega viewers on Saturday when john has his "Farewell dance"!
Originally Posted by Cent:
“If Daniel had went through one more week and quit it would have been the same though.”
“If Daniel had went through one more week and quit it would have been the same though.”
You think? I'm just saying that John has been a big talking point for Strictly, Daniel was way down the list of topics for XF. There was no need for him to quit because everyone knew he was on his way. All it took was being put 1st and Simon saying "it doesn't matter what I say, the public will vote for you anyway" and the reverse psychology sent him packing. He was never on the scale of John as entertainment.
It could benefit SCD, I suppose. Alot of people were moaning about him as well.
Originally Posted by A Cillay:
“Tonights It takes Two has been extended to an hour.”
“Tonights It takes Two has been extended to an hour.”
They've extended it the wrong way though.
Everyone will tune in at 6.30pm and have missed half of it.
Tuesday 18th November Overnights
BBC One
20.00- Holby City: 5.6m (24.9%)
21.00- New Tricks: 3.9m (16.4%)
BBC Two
20.00- Natural World: 2.2m (9.7%)
21.00- How Mad Are You?: 1.7m (7%)
ITV1
20.00- Who Wants to be a Millionaire?: 4.8m (21.1%)
21.00- I'm a Celebrity ... Get Me Out of Here!: 7.9m (32.7%)
* peak: 8.0m (33%) at 21.45
* 83.7% up on the slot average for the year so far of 4.3m (18.4%)
* 39.3% of the show's audience were ABC1 viewers
* 24% of the show's audence were aged between 16-34
22.00- News at Ten: 3.3m
Channel 4
18.00- The Simpsons: 2.68m [inc. +1]
18.30- Hollyoaks: 2.09m [inc. +1]
20.00- Miss Naked Beauty: 1.5m (6.7%) +1: 138,000
21.00- Prince John: the Windsors' Tragic Secret: 2.1m (8.9%) +1: 131,000
22.00- Bremner, Bird and Fortune: Silly Money: 0.96m [inc. +1]
five
20.00- Special Forces Heroes: 1.3m (5.8%)
21.00- CSI: Miami: 2.3m (9.4%)
22.00- CSI: NY: 1.6m (9%)
BBC Three
22.00- EastEnders: 1.1m (6.3%)
22.30- Grownups: 335,000 (2.41%)
BBC Four
22.30- Charlie Brooker's Screenwipe: 235,000 viewers (1.72%)
* peak: 248,000 (1.99%)
* most watched episode of the programme ever. Previous high was: 224,000 (1.31%) on 05/02/08
* double the channel's 2008 slot average of 113,000 (0.81%)
* 79% of the audience were from the ABC1 demographic while 46.8% were aged between 16 and 34
ITV2
22.00- I'm a Celebrity… Get Me Out of Here Now!: 532,000 (3.4%) +1: 103,000
E4 [inc. +1]
21.00- Smallville: 0.19m
22.00- Smallville: 0.39m
Film4 [inc. +1]
19.00- The Quiller Memorandum: 0.13m
21.00- Under Siege: 0.43m
More 4 [inc. +1]
21.00- Come Dine With Me: 0.25m
22.00- True Stories: 0.15m
Five US
22.00- The Punisher: 298,000 (2.82%) +1: 36,000
All-Hours Shares
BBC One- 20.5%, ITV1- 20.4%, Channel 4- 8.1%, BBC Two- 8%, Five- 5.8%
Sources: Brand Republic, Broadcast, Channel 4 Sales, Media Guardian
BBC One
20.00- Holby City: 5.6m (24.9%)
21.00- New Tricks: 3.9m (16.4%)
BBC Two
20.00- Natural World: 2.2m (9.7%)
21.00- How Mad Are You?: 1.7m (7%)
ITV1
20.00- Who Wants to be a Millionaire?: 4.8m (21.1%)
21.00- I'm a Celebrity ... Get Me Out of Here!: 7.9m (32.7%)
* peak: 8.0m (33%) at 21.45
* 83.7% up on the slot average for the year so far of 4.3m (18.4%)
* 39.3% of the show's audience were ABC1 viewers
* 24% of the show's audence were aged between 16-34
22.00- News at Ten: 3.3m
Channel 4
18.00- The Simpsons: 2.68m [inc. +1]
18.30- Hollyoaks: 2.09m [inc. +1]
20.00- Miss Naked Beauty: 1.5m (6.7%) +1: 138,000
21.00- Prince John: the Windsors' Tragic Secret: 2.1m (8.9%) +1: 131,000
22.00- Bremner, Bird and Fortune: Silly Money: 0.96m [inc. +1]
five
20.00- Special Forces Heroes: 1.3m (5.8%)
21.00- CSI: Miami: 2.3m (9.4%)
22.00- CSI: NY: 1.6m (9%)
BBC Three
22.00- EastEnders: 1.1m (6.3%)
22.30- Grownups: 335,000 (2.41%)
BBC Four
22.30- Charlie Brooker's Screenwipe: 235,000 viewers (1.72%)
* peak: 248,000 (1.99%)
* most watched episode of the programme ever. Previous high was: 224,000 (1.31%) on 05/02/08
* double the channel's 2008 slot average of 113,000 (0.81%)
* 79% of the audience were from the ABC1 demographic while 46.8% were aged between 16 and 34
ITV2
22.00- I'm a Celebrity… Get Me Out of Here Now!: 532,000 (3.4%) +1: 103,000
E4 [inc. +1]
21.00- Smallville: 0.19m
22.00- Smallville: 0.39m
Film4 [inc. +1]
19.00- The Quiller Memorandum: 0.13m
21.00- Under Siege: 0.43m
More 4 [inc. +1]
21.00- Come Dine With Me: 0.25m
22.00- True Stories: 0.15m
Five US
22.00- The Punisher: 298,000 (2.82%) +1: 36,000
All-Hours Shares
BBC One- 20.5%, ITV1- 20.4%, Channel 4- 8.1%, BBC Two- 8%, Five- 5.8%
Sources: Brand Republic, Broadcast, Channel 4 Sales, Media Guardian
It's great to hear that appauling excuse for comedy After You've Gone is gone. Never again, BBC, never again.
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