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TXF didnt have football to contend with at 6.10 last week. Quote:
SCD should not be going out so early, but I've finished repeating that line because it probably bores everyone. SCD will never get TXF size ratings because it goes out earlier most weeks and also clashes with it other weeks which brings its ratings down. TXF on the other hand goes out later most weeks and doesn't clash with SCD that often.
You dont have to agree with me but acknowledge it's a logical possiblity that with SCD; at this stage of the competition the dances being performed are Ballroom ie the Foxtrot, Quickstep which have a very specialist appeal and only really appeals to the hardcore dancing fans. It's in the later stages of the competition we have the Sambas, Salsas and Showdances that really have the WOW factor and their the dances that appeal to the general and majority audiences. In singing terms with TXF, it's like having 10 Leon Jacksons' being performed as oposed to 10 Leona Lewises. I wouldnt expect the dances that were danced last night to sustain 10m viewers but towards the end they get more and more adventurous and spectacular which is when I'd say the vast majority of viewers get gripped. Take this for example; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXaPwhrAFic. It's just a completly different league to anything we have seen last night. Which is perfectly natural. Unlike TXF it's all a gradual work in progress. I get the impression this is a very joyeous day for the Ratings Thread.
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Impressive ratings by SCD last night against a rather badly-rating England international, didn't expect SCD to win that battle, especially with the early slot and the superb weather. People just don't like to see their England matches on the ITV do they? Hardly surprising of course.
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(BTW, didn't ITV promise more than 7 minutes of post-match analysis as part of the new package, any chance the FA could rescind the deal and hand the rights back to BBC1?)
I don't know where there was a deal regarding at least 7 mins, but if there was, it wasn't met. The post-match analysis was very rushed, but I've come to expect that from ITV.Quote:
As for Saturday nights generally, the BBC really should do better. There is no point scheduling Casualty before the end of the first marathon session of TXF - it reduces it down to its core audience and gives whatever filler guff ITV puts on after TXF part 1 a boost because the alternative is the last 20 mins of Casualty. And with only the news and Little Britain repeats to follow on BBC1, there's no need to start Casualty so early - stick it on at 9.25pm, news at 10.15 and MOTD at 10.30. That way SCD and Merlin can run in better, later slots too, and reduce TXF's ratings as well. With TXF bloated to nearly 3 hours a night, and all the associated padding on ITV2 to fill up the rest of TXF obsessives' Saturday nights (shouldn't they get out more and meet people?), ITV can hardly move it much later in the schedule.
Yes, I think it's unecessary for the BBC to have a LBUSA repeat just one day afterwards. They could have used that extra 30 mins to put back their preceeding shows. They would have rated better in the later timeslot.Quote:
Well sorry, I only have my vague memory to rely on rzt.
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Impressive ratings by SCD last night against a rather badly-rating England international, didn't expect SCD to win that battle, especially with the early slot and the superb weather.
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To be fair to cylon6, far more people watch television on Sunday than Saturday. For e.g. there were about 20m watching tv last Saturday between in the 6pm hour. On Sunday, there were 22m.
In Strictly's first week, it got 43% and 8m. For XF last Sunday, it got 43% (same share) but 9.5m. Obviously, Sunday has far more viewers than Saturday, which helped inflate the XF figure. But anyways, Strictly went out early last year and got figures around 9m. Maybe it's just not that good this year? Doctor Who was going out in the summer and really early and yet got one of the highest audiences so far this year. BGT got a massive audience, that I never would have expected in May. I do think that some weeks SCD isn't helped by its scheduling. |
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True but going out at 5.50 against the football is a stupid idea. Had it gone out later it would have been towards the end of the football match and TXF & SCD can get quite substantial audiences against each other.
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The post-match analysis was very rushed, but I've come to expect that from ITV.
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TXF didnt have football to contend with at 6.10 last week.
As an actual viewer (which is hard to come by on this thread) I feel the problem does not lie with scheduling. SCD went out regularly before 6pm last year and got 8-9m. You dont have to agree with me but acknowledge it's a logical possiblity that with SCD; at this stage of the competition the dances being performed are Ballroom ie the Foxtrot, Quickstep which have a very specialist appeal and only really appeals to the hardcore dancing fans. It's in the later stages of the competition we have the Sambas, Salsas and Showdances that really have the WOW factor and their the dances that appeal to the general and majority audiences. In singing terms with TXF, it's like having 10 Leon Jacksons' being performed as oposed to 10 Leona Lewises. I wouldnt expect the dances that were danced last night to sustain 10m viewers but towards the end they get more and more adventurous and spectacular which is when I'd say the vast majority of viewers get gripped. Take this for example; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXaPwhrAFic. It's just a completly different league to anything we have seen last night. Which is perfectly natural. Unlike TXF it's all a gradual work in progress. I get the impression this is a very joyeous day for the Ratings Thread. ![]() |
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25 minutes of post match on Champions League matches. I dont think any channel (BBC1 or ITV1) are going to do long post match analysis on a Saturday evening. Possibly they should do a post match ITV4 show.
. But, yes, I can sort of understand why it's 25 mins for Champions League matches. Last night's coverage was originally going to finish at 7.30pm, but then they changed it late in the day to 7.15pm. I would have preferred it to end at 7.30pm and get some more detailed post-match analysis.I think ITV4 had a post-match analysis show at 10pm last season, but they got rid of it. Probably didn't rate well. |
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I think ITV4 had a post-match analysis show at 10pm last season, but they got rid of it. Probably didn't rate well.
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Well I personally think that the best dancers I've seen have been on the US version of the show. I'd love to see the Brits and Americans in a dance off.
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Neil Diamond, for example. (Although with XF supposedly doing Mariah Carey week, I'm not sure he can talk)
![]() Great ratings for ITV1 yesterday - but I can't believe the schedule they put out. Minus GMTV, CITV, the news and Family Fortunes, the day, between 5.15am and midnight was devoted to either F1, football or The X Factor. ![]() 05.15 F1 Qualifying 07.15 GMTV 10.05 CITV 12.50 The X Factor Repeat 13.50 News 14.00 F1 Qualifying Repeat 16.00 News 16.30 Football 19.15 The X Factor 21.15 Family Fortunes 22.00 The X Factor Results 22.45 News 23.00 Football Repeat I guess that the channel kept it's audience for most of the day. ![]() Merlin did brilliantly, everything else was a flop for BBC1 after SCD finished. I thought SCD would do slightly better than it did, but it still did well against the football. I think Casualty needs to be rested, running series after series is just stagnating the show. Why Channel 4 thought a show about buildings would be sucessful is anyone's guess, but I suppose they were aiming for an older audience than Merlin/Lottery and The X Factor were attracting. I thought the football coverage was really good on ITV, and it was nice to have interesting pundits reporting on an England match, instead of Shearer, Hansen and Lawrenson. If BBC still had the football, all ITV would have done would be bring The X Factor forward to clash with it, so I doubt it'd have done better on BBC1 than it did yesterday. Agent F asked for previous SCD ratings, I've found the odd one about the net. 5.45 start:2006 Week Two: 6.5m (32.9%) 2007 Week Three: 7.5m (35.2%) - thrashing The X Factor 6.2m (30.9%) - this was week two for the X Factor, which started early (5.45, directly against SCD) due to the RWC final. |
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25 minutes of post match on Champions League matches. I dont think any channel (BBC1 or ITV1) are going to do long post match analysis on a Saturday evening. Possibly they should do a post match ITV4 show.
They might as well have gone straight to Ant and Dec at the final whistle... |
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Thats been suggested as a Christmas special format Winners Vs Winners. Altohugh I'm not sure where Mel B would fit in.
![]() One of my fave Kristi dances One of my fave Stacey dances How good would a British v American contest be with these two? |
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Further SCD ratings from last year (pre 6pm starts)
November 17th (5.50pm): 8.91m (41.6%) against The X Factor (8.51m, 35.2%) which started at 18:40. Cowell went on to call TXF a 'disaster' due to the dullness of the programme. December 1st (5:50pm): 9.69m (44.6%, peak of 10.64m) against The X Factor 9.21m (37.2%) which started at 18.55 December 8th (5:45pm): 10.1m (47%, peak of 11.36m) against The X Factor (9.2m, 40%, peak of 10.66m) which started at 19.10. December 15th (6:00pm): 10.4m (45.4%) against The X Factor Final (11.4m, 46.9%) |
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Don't forget it would have been impossible for the football to overrun on ITV1 as it meant X Factor would start late and it would mean a filler programme would get added in Scotland - STV never screened the match - most of the people in Scotland probably watched BBC1 for part of the night as a result.
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When you actually compare back, Strictly Come Dancing is actually performing as it has in previous years. It will grow as the weeks go on and should match the great performances it put in last year. The difference is that X Factor, for whatever reason, has moved the goalposts a little this year. Its already hitting averages and peaks we don't usually see from either show until December.
Good to see that Merlin has established itself strongly on Saturday nights - its not a smash hit, but a solid, reliable drama that we can expect to see added to the BBC's rota of Saturday Night drama. |
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Apologies if this has been said already:
This thread is now the most viewed thread on the 'TV Programmes' sub-forum of DS!
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I'd love to see Kristi Yamaguchi and Stacey Kiebler taking on Alesha Dixon and Colin Jackson.
One of my fave Kristi dances One of my fave Stacey dances How good would a British v American contest be with these two? And yeah, I can see a UK v US special - the 'Champion of Champions' thing surely can't happen every year. |
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When you actually compare back, Strictly Come Dancing is actually performing as it has in previous years. It will grow as the weeks go on and should match the great performances it put in last year. The difference is that X Factor, for whatever reason, has moved the goalposts a little this year. Its already hitting averages and peaks we don't usually see from either show until December.
Good to see that Merlin has established itself strongly on Saturday nights - its not a smash hit, but a solid, reliable drama that we can expect to see added to the BBC's rota of Saturday Night drama. |
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(BTW, didn't ITV promise more than 7 minutes of post-match analysis as part of the new package, any chance the FA could rescind the deal and hand the rights back to BBC1?)
7 minutes is actually brilliant in comparison to BBC1's coverage of the Wimbledon mens tennis final, "the best match in the history of tennis" which went all through the afternoon and then had not one second of analysis so as they could show... a Vicar of Dibley repeat!
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Apologies if this has been said already:
This thread is now the most viewed thread on the 'TV Programmes' sub-forum of DS! ![]() That's my contribution for the month.
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When you actually compare back, Strictly Come Dancing is actually performing as it has in previous years. It will grow as the weeks go on and should match the great performances it put in last year. The difference is that X Factor, for whatever reason, has moved the goalposts a little this year. Its already hitting averages and peaks we don't usually see from either show until December.
Good to see that Merlin has established itself strongly on Saturday nights - its not a smash hit, but a solid, reliable drama that we can expect to see added to the BBC's rota of Saturday Night drama. With regard to Merlin-again X Factor has dented it at birth-its a family show but its audience is apparently largely older-alot of its potential audience are gripped with X Factor and havent climbed on board from the start. Its superior entertainment and would command 7 or 8 million otherwise. |
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BBC1 has to show something when the football is on. Maybe a Hole in the Wall double bill?
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X Factor is nowhere near as polished and technically correct as SCD but it has obviously struck a real chord with its audience quickly this year.
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I think TXF benefits from the success of Britain's Got Talent. It's essentially the same show, so having managed to hook a stonking great audience for BGT - the reason for that being one of TV's great unanswered questions - is it not surprising that some of that audience has now tuned in to watch more of the same in the other Cowell show?
Production wise, last night was below par. Despite having a similar team producing, the live shows on Got Talent seemed far more polished than last nights XF. I would expect things to pick up as they progress, though. Taking 12 amateurs that have never been on TV before can always be a bit of a risk. Last night, their lack of experience showed. But I think there may be another thing that works in favour of XF this year. Perhaps, amid all the gloom, people prefer to see "normal" people doing well? |
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. But, yes, I can sort of understand why it's 25 mins for Champions League matches. Last night's coverage was originally going to finish at 7.30pm, but then they changed it late in the day to 7.15pm. I would have preferred it to end at 7.30pm and get some more detailed post-match analysis.

