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The Ratings Thread (Part 3 (1))
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Dancc
19-10-2008
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Thansk for the article. It mentions British shows are being downloaded. But apart from Doctor Who, what big British shows are shown in Austrlia? I can't imagine the Bill being top priority for illegal downloaders !”

Lol, no, me neither. Although ABC are many months behind with The Bill, having just aired the first 2008 episode last night, so you never know.
C14E
19-10-2008
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Those are very erratic figures for TXF. I can't believe so many people "tune out" during ad breaks, or is that just people leaving the room to go to the toilet or fetch a drink?

The 47% share for the judges vote at 10:45pm is very impressive though, albeit not surprising. But people soon tuned out - a loss of 6 million viewers in the space of 10 minutes - ouch!”

The 5 minute ratings cover the following 5 minute period, I think? So the 47% share was for 2245-2250. The show finished at 2250, so the last 5 minutes were just adverts.

Tbh, I probably miss every second ad break from flicking channels, or leaving the room at some point. I thought it would be more of a drop that is was.
Pizzatheaction
19-10-2008
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Well, since 1986 really. I think it only spent one, maybe two, series on Fridays at 9.30pm in 1991 or so.

I think the killing of it was changing it from a drama series, which we all enjoyed together as a family when I was a kid, to a soap - something I suppose they had to do when making it 30-odd, then 40-odd, weeks a year.

Still, it can pull a good audience when properly scheduled and when ITV don't have a big hitter opposite it - it usually peaks at 8m in recent series.”

Casualty was definitely on Saturday nights in 1986, and I think it may have been in 1987 too. The autumn drama for 1988-1990 was All Creatures Great and Small. 1991 saw The House of Eliott get the slot, and Casualty returned to Saturdays in 1992.
basdfg
19-10-2008
Originally Posted by C14E:
“The 5 minute ratings cover the following 5 minute period, I think? So the 47% share was for 2245-2250. The show finished at 2250, so the last 5 minutes were just adverts.

Tbh, I probably miss every second ad break from flicking channels, or leaving the room at some point. I thought it would be more of a drop that is was.”

I think some of the people on the barb panel dont always record if someone leaves the room.
anna123
19-10-2008
the fact that people switch between x factor and strictly shows how silly it is to have them on at the same time.
rzt
19-10-2008
Some interesting info about The One Show:
Quote:
“The One Show is now doing very steady business for BBC-1 in the once difficult 7.00pm, regularly attaining at 22% share and 4.5m viewers:

Monday (13/10) - 4.77m (22.7%)
Tuesday (14/10) - 4.79m (23.4%)
Wednesday (15/10) - 4.48m (22.3%)
Thursday (16/10) - 4.40m (21.9%)
Friday (17/10) - 4.59m (23.3%)

It doesn't even need EastEnders to follow it to rate well nowadays.

The new series of Watchdog also did good business aganist Coronation Street on Monday, getting 4.34m (19.1%) at 7.30.”

Thebenster
19-10-2008
Originally Posted by rzt:
“The One Show is now doing very steady business for BBC-1 in the once difficult 7.00pm, regularly attaining at 22% share and 4.5m viewers:

Monday (13/10) - 4.77m (22.7%)
Tuesday (14/10) - 4.79m (23.4%)
Wednesday (15/10) - 4.48m (22.3%)
Thursday (16/10) - 4.40m (21.9%)
Friday (17/10) - 4.59m (23.3%)

It doesn't even need EastEnders to follow it to rate well nowadays.

The new series of Watchdog also did good business aganist Coronation Street on Monday, getting 4.34m (19.1%) at 7.30.”

You blatantly pinched this post from somewhere.

One Show is getting some good shares and is performing well at the start of the week.
rzt
19-10-2008
Originally Posted by Thebenster:
“You blatantly pinched this post from somewhere. ”

Lol yeh, but I'm sure the inital poster won't mind.

Quote:
“One Show is getting some good shares and is performing well at the start of the week.”

Yep- it's definitely one of the reasons for Emmerdale's decline. At this rate, The One Show could be hitting 5m on a more regular basis next year.
nick202
19-10-2008
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Lol yeh, but I'm sure the inital poster won't mind.


Yep- it's definitely one of the reasons for Emmerdale's decline. At this rate, The One Show could be hitting 5m on a more regular basis next year.”

I can see that happening too - especially as the Winter nights draw in. I must admit I watched The One Show the other day and thought it was actually pretty enjoyable - not earth-shattering but a good solid show which seems to have overcome its initial teething problems.
Pizzatheaction
19-10-2008
rzt has posted Friday's After You've Gone rating on the prediction game thread: 3.1m

That's a bit lower than I expected. I thought high 3s or early 4s would be on the cards.

I wonder where BBC One will stick* the new series of The Green Green Grass now?



(*Please avoid the obvious joke, folks! )
nick202
19-10-2008
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“rzt has posted Friday's After You've Gone rating on the prediction game thread: 3.1m

That's a bit lower than I expected. I thought high 3s or early 4s would be on the cards.

I wonder where BBC One will stick* the new series of The Green Green Grass now?



(*Please avoid the obvious joke, folks! )”

Sorry, but can I just ask how 3.1m for AYG compares to the ratings it was getting on Sundays?
Score
19-10-2008
Originally Posted by nick202:
“Sorry, but can I just ask how 3.1m for AYG compares to the ratings it was getting on Sundays?”

About the same, but last year it was getting 5m+ on Fridays at 8.30pm, but Corrie's mucked that slot up for BBC1 now.

I can't see After You've Gone lasting much longer, unless they give it a different slot, and that would be annoying for its fans, as it's been shunted around enough this series anyway.

I'd put it on Thursdays at 8.30pm after Little Dorrit, as I think it would do well there, up against The Bill. I can see Green Green Grass going there.

AYG used to hold up better than that against Corrie when they occasionally clashed previously, though (around 4m, I think), so maybe its days are numbered.
Fudd
19-10-2008
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Yep- it's definitely one of the reasons for Emmerdale's decline. At this rate, The One Show could be hitting 5m on a more regular basis next year.”

The irony makes me laugh. It was Peter Fincham's brainchild, but now it's causing all sorts of problems for him.

Saturday Night Ratings Thoughts
The X Factor did brilliantly - I wonder why the dip at quarter to 8, who was performing then to cause the issue? John Sargeant or Tom Chambers on SCD...Scott on X Factor? Is Sargeant/Chambers unpopular or Scott popular because that does seem a strange leap between the two. Both shows performed superbly though.

I don't know why Merlin comes on so early. Ok, so I said I'd put it in that slot, but after seeing the first week's ratings I'd have kept the schedule the same. SCD beenfits from no clash, and Merlin holds it's own against TXF than it seemingly does against You've Been Framed. ITV1 will be delighted with YBF, and, of course, Harry Hill's TV Burp, which performed brilliantly in a tough slot.

Casualty is going to continue to have a problem if the BBC schedule keeps chopping and changing. Relative to what times sport events and SCD needs it semms to constantly flucuate in the schedule. Whether it's being over exposed is a moot point. Coronation Street/EastEnders/Emmerdale/Hollyoaks/The Bill all air as much as it and have done (IIRC) over a longer time span, yet their audience seems much steadier than the hospital drama.

The lottery is steady for BBC1, more of a filler than anything, while Family Fortunes held up well after TXF, though I still think Brittania High should've been given that slot. Shocking post result dip for ITV1, which shows that Match of the Day is still an attractive proposition to some - getting the same ratings as Jonathan Ross the night before.

I have to say I agree with Robbie re. the BBC schedule. I think:

5.00 Hole in the Wall
5.30 Regional News
5.45 BBC News
6.00 Strictly Come Dancing
7.30 Merlin
8.20 Lottery
9.00 Casualty
9.50 Little Britain: USA
10.20 BBC News
10.30 Match of the Day

would work much better for it.
Only_You
19-10-2008
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“
I wonder where BBC One will stick* the new series of The Green Green Grass now?
”

How many episodes has Hole in the wall got left? It could replace that? I can't really see any more options
nick202
19-10-2008
Originally Posted by Score:
“About the same, but last year it was getting 5m+ on Fridays at 8.30pm, but Corrie's mucked that slot up now.

I can't see After You've Gone lasting much longer, unless they give it a different slot, and that would be annoying for its fans, as it's been shunted around enough this series anyway.

I'd put it on Thursdays at 8.30pm after Little Dorrit, as I think it would do well there, up against The Bill. I can see Green Green Grass going there.”

Snap! I was also thinking Thursdays for both AYG and GGG - it's a pretty safe slot, and I think there would be enough of an inheritance from Little Dorrit to make it worthwhile. Obviously Friday's Corrie was a 'biggie' but I can't see AYG getting more than 4m when up against it.
ZoeMcCallister
19-10-2008
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“rzt has posted Friday's After You've Gone rating on the prediction game thread: 3.1m

That's a bit lower than I expected. I thought high 3s or early 4s would be on the cards.

I wonder where BBC One will stick* the new series of The Green Green Grass now?



(*Please avoid the obvious joke, folks! )”

BBC1 are making this Friday 8.30pm comedy situation harder than it actually is for themselves.

First they move My Family to 2 slots-9pm and 9.30pm where it performs well, but not as well as in the Friday 8.30pm slot.

Now they slot AYG around various slots on a Sunday evening before moving it back to its old slot where it has flopped big time up against Corrie, understandably.

Why don't they just create a comedy block, say on Wednesday 8-9pm and move those docs to Friday 8.30pm??

OR

A comedy block 7-8pm on a Sunday when BBC1 don't have SCD. Otherwise I can see BBC1 phasing out the pre watershed comedies especially AYG and GGG.

EDIT: Score's idea is also brilliant for scheduling GGG.
Score
19-10-2008
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“The irony makes me laugh. It was Peter Fincham's brainchild, but now it's causing all sorts of problems for him.

Saturday Night Ratings Thoughts
The X Factor did brilliantly - I wonder why the dip at quarter to 8, who was performing then to cause the issue? John Sargeant or Tom Chambers on SCD...Scott on X Factor? Is Sargeant/Chambers unpopular or Scott popular because that does seem a strange leap between the two. Both shows performed superbly though.

I don't know why Merlin comes on so early. Ok, so I said I'd put it in that slot, but after seeing the first week's ratings I'd have kept the schedule the same. SCD beenfits from no clash, and Merlin holds it's own against TXF than it seemingly does against You've Been Framed. ITV1 will be delighted with YBF, and, of course, Harry Hill's TV Burp, which performed brilliantly in a tough slot.

Casualty is going to continue to have a problem if the BBC schedule keeps chopping and changing. Relative to what times sport events and SCD needs it semms to constantly flucuate in the schedule. Whether it's being over exposed is a moot point. Coronation Street/EastEnders/Emmerdale/Hollyoaks/The Bill all air as much as it and have done (IIRC) over a longer time span, yet their audience seems much steadier than the hospital drama.

The lottery is steady for BBC1, more of a filler than anything, while Family Fortunes held up well after TXF, though I still think Brittania High should've been given that slot. Shocking post result dip for ITV1, which shows that Match of the Day is still an attractive proposition to some - getting the same ratings as Jonathan Ross the night before.

I have to say I agree with Robbie re. the BBC schedule. I think:

5.00 Hole in the Wall
5.30 Regional News
5.45 BBC News
6.00 Strictly Come Dancing
7.30 Merlin
8.20 Lottery
9.00 Casualty
9.50 Little Britain: USA
10.20 BBC News
10.30 Match of the Day

would work much better for it.”

I agree with everything there, and when Little Britain USA ends, I'd put the new series of Outnumbered in that slot.

Against that, for ITV, I'd go:

6.00 You've Been Framed
7.00 Harry Hill's TV Burp
7.30 The X Factor
9.00 All Star Family Fortunes (I'm a Celebrity when it returns)
9.45 The X Factor: Results
10.30 Al Murray's Happy Hour

Happy Hour would work well after XF, and the talent shows wouldn't clash.
nick202
19-10-2008
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“The irony makes me laugh. It was Peter Fincham's brainchild, but now it's causing all sorts of problems for him.

Saturday Night Ratings Thoughts
The X Factor did brilliantly - I wonder why the dip at quarter to 8, who was performing then to cause the issue? John Sargeant or Tom Chambers on SCD...Scott on X Factor? Is Sargeant/Chambers unpopular or Scott popular because that does seem a strange leap between the two. Both shows performed superbly though.

I don't know why Merlin comes on so early. Ok, so I said I'd put it in that slot, but after seeing the first week's ratings I'd have kept the schedule the same. SCD beenfits from no clash, and Merlin holds it's own against TXF than it seemingly does against You've Been Framed. ITV1 will be delighted with YBF, and, of course, Harry Hill's TV Burp, which performed brilliantly in a tough slot.

Casualty is going to continue to have a problem if the BBC schedule keeps chopping and changing. Relative to what times sport events and SCD needs it semms to constantly flucuate in the schedule. Whether it's being over exposed is a moot point. Coronation Street/EastEnders/Emmerdale/Hollyoaks/The Bill all air as much as it and have done (IIRC) over a longer time span, yet their audience seems much steadier than the hospital drama.

The lottery is steady for BBC1, more of a filler than anything, while Family Fortunes held up well after TXF, though I still think Brittania High should've been given that slot. Shocking post result dip for ITV1, which shows that Match of the Day is still an attractive proposition to some - getting the same ratings as Jonathan Ross the night before.

I have to say I agree with Robbie re. the BBC schedule. I think:

5.00 Hole in the Wall
5.30 Regional News
5.45 BBC News
6.00 Strictly Come Dancing
7.30 Merlin
8.20 Lottery
9.00 Casualty
9.50 Little Britain: USA
10.20 BBC News
10.30 Match of the Day

would work much better for it.”

I definitely agree about the Lottery - for me it's the point at which I switch from BBC1. I always switch back for Casualty, but I wonder how many others stick with ITV. I still dont quite understand the BBC's need to construct some dull, melodramatic quiz show around a set of balls falling out of a machine.
Pizzatheaction
19-10-2008
Originally Posted by Score:
“About the same, but last year it was getting 5m+ on Fridays at 8.30pm, but Corrie's mucked that slot up for BBC1 now.

I can't see After You've Gone lasting much longer, unless they give it a different slot, and that would be annoying for its fans, as it's been shunted around enough this series anyway.

I'd put it on Thursdays at 8.30pm after Little Dorrit, as I think it would do well there, up against The Bill. I can see Green Green Grass going there.

AYG used to hold up better than that against Corrie when they occasionally clashed previously, though (around 4m, I think), so maybe its days are numbered.”

I too think the writing may be on the wall for AYG. I actually enjoy the show. I know ten more episodes and a Christmas special have been commissioned for next year, so I'm wondering where they'll be slotted.

A further series for 2010 is starting to look unlikely.



Originally Posted by Only_You:
“How many episodes has Hole in the wall got left? It could replace that? I can't really see any more options ”

Five.
nick202
19-10-2008
5 Hole in the Walls? Bloody hell...
ZoeMcCallister
19-10-2008
Originally Posted by Score:
“9.45 The X Factor: Results
10.30 Al Murray's Happy Hour

Happy Hour would work well after XF, and the talent shows wouldn't clash.”

ITV really should have waited till they screened the new series of Al Murray and put it after XF, because with a huge lead in it would actually perform decently. It would be in the 11pm slot, but would offer an alternative to football viewers.

Also looking at some of the huge shares for Family Guy last week I believe the 11pm slot is crying out for a decent comedy on the terrestrial platform. I think E4 should repeat the days episodes of Friends in the 11pm slot aswell, as it's a bit of a problem slot for E4 and even though many people may say the schedule is dominated by Friends, it would perform well for them.

ITV2 could do with a solid comedy which performs well for them aswell (e.g Two & Half Men) and air that in the 8pm slot most days.
Pizzatheaction
19-10-2008
Originally Posted by ZoeMcCallister:
“BBC1 are making this Friday 8.30pm comedy situation harder than it actually is for themselves.

First they move My Family to 2 slots-9pm and 9.30pm where it performs well, but not as well as in the Friday 8.30pm slot.

Now they slot AYG around various slots on a Sunday evening before moving it back to its old slot where it has flopped big time up against Corrie, understandably.

Why don't they just create a comedy block, say on Wednesday 8-9pm and move those docs to Friday 8.30pm??

OR

A comedy block 7-8pm on a Sunday when BBC1 don't have SCD. Otherwise I can see BBC1 phasing out the pre watershed comedies especially AYG and GGG.

EDIT: Score's idea is also brilliant for scheduling GGG.”

Yep, I think Score's idea and Nick's are worth trying, as is your Sunday idea.

I think there's a bit of a problem with sitcom scheduling at BBC One, because there's some strange unfathomable law that all sitcoms, except Last of the Summer Wine, must be shown on Friday nights.
Pizzatheaction
19-10-2008
Originally Posted by nick202:
“5 Hole in the Walls? Bloody hell...”



Five down, five to go!
ZoeMcCallister
19-10-2008
Originally Posted by nick202:
“5 Hole in the Walls? Bloody hell...”

That's great!! More ammunition for Harry Hill
Pizzatheaction
19-10-2008
Thinking about The Green Green Grass, I suppose it might get 9pm on Friday nights, with HIGNFY pushed to 9.30, once Little Britain ends? It depends if BBC One has anything else lined up for the 9.30 slot after LB.

Not Going Out, maybe, but it would be a pretty tight turnaround to get that to air, judging by the recording dates someone posted on another thread.

Also interesting that despite GGG being more popular than AYG, AYG is currently the only one of the two with a commission beyond this year.
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