CBS are so solid at the moment.
The Ratings Thread (Part 3 (1))
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Just thinking about E4 airing "Dead Set" next week. I wonder if the scheduling was thought up by someone more interested in token gestures as oppose to ratings? Yes, it might seem like a good idea to air the finale of a horror show on Halloween, but for a channel targetting 16-34's, is a Friday at 10pm on Halloween really the best idea?
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Not good on an internet forum!
Whats the problem? They have to show it sometime - I cant see that much overlap between Heartbeat, Top Gear & SCD results myself. I wouldnt watch any of them given a choice
”
“Not good on an internet forum!
Whats the problem? They have to show it sometime - I cant see that much overlap between Heartbeat, Top Gear & SCD results myself. I wouldnt watch any of them given a choice
”
I can see Top Gear and Strictly suffering at the hands of each other. SCD should be on first and then Top Gear would have less competition at 8pm. BBC1 do need some more big light entertainment hits as once SCD ends they will have nothing until it returns again next year. ITV on the other hand will have Dancing On Ice in the winter months and Britain's Got Talent in the summer months. So they're pretty much okay for the whole year.
Australian Overnights: Wednesday 22nd October 2008
ABC
19:00 ABC News 1,115,000
...
20:30 Spicks and Specks 1,246,000
Seven
18:00 Seven News 1,421,000
18:30 Today Tonight 1,314,000
19:00 Home and Away 1,182,000
19:30 Crash Investigation Unit 1,134,000
20:00 Medical Emergency 1,265,000
20:30 Criminal Minds 1,275,000
21:30 Criminal Minds (R) 915,000
Nine
18:00 Nine News 1,151,000
18:30 A Current Affair 994,000
19:00 Two and a Half Men (R) 1,161,000
19:30 Two and a Half Men (R) 1,350,000
20:00 Two and a Half Men (R) 1,421,000
20:30 The Mentalist 980,000 (Sunday: 1,448,000)
21:30 CSI:NY 822,000
Ten
19:30 Jamie Oliver's Ministry of Food 766,000
20:30 House 860,000
21:30 Life 682,000
Source: OzTAM
Evening shares
ABC: 18.8%
Seven: 30.6%
Nine: 27.1%
Ten: 19.4%
SBS: 4.2%
How daft are Nine suddenly moving The Mentalist to Wednesdays? Down about 500k from its usual numbers.
Apparently footie on Sunday is the reason, but slotting it against Criminal Minds was a terrible idea.
Aussie Freeview to be unveiled next month
ABC
19:00 ABC News 1,115,000
...
20:30 Spicks and Specks 1,246,000
Seven
18:00 Seven News 1,421,000
18:30 Today Tonight 1,314,000
19:00 Home and Away 1,182,000
19:30 Crash Investigation Unit 1,134,000
20:00 Medical Emergency 1,265,000
20:30 Criminal Minds 1,275,000
21:30 Criminal Minds (R) 915,000
Nine
18:00 Nine News 1,151,000
18:30 A Current Affair 994,000
19:00 Two and a Half Men (R) 1,161,000
19:30 Two and a Half Men (R) 1,350,000
20:00 Two and a Half Men (R) 1,421,000
20:30 The Mentalist 980,000 (Sunday: 1,448,000)
21:30 CSI:NY 822,000
Ten
19:30 Jamie Oliver's Ministry of Food 766,000
20:30 House 860,000
21:30 Life 682,000
Source: OzTAM
Evening shares
ABC: 18.8%
Seven: 30.6%
Nine: 27.1%
Ten: 19.4%
SBS: 4.2%
How daft are Nine suddenly moving The Mentalist to Wednesdays? Down about 500k from its usual numbers.
Apparently footie on Sunday is the reason, but slotting it against Criminal Minds was a terrible idea.
Aussie Freeview to be unveiled next month
Originally Posted by C14E:
“Just thinking about E4 airing "Dead Set" next week. I wonder if the scheduling was thought up by someone more interested in token gestures as oppose to ratings? Yes, it might seem like a good idea to air the finale of a horror show on Halloween, but for a channel targetting 16-34's, is a Friday at 10pm on Halloween really the best idea?”
“Just thinking about E4 airing "Dead Set" next week. I wonder if the scheduling was thought up by someone more interested in token gestures as oppose to ratings? Yes, it might seem like a good idea to air the finale of a horror show on Halloween, but for a channel targetting 16-34's, is a Friday at 10pm on Halloween really the best idea?”
If you've watched it for 4 nights you're not going to give up on the final night.
More people will see it on 4oD or record it.
Originally Posted by MattJKR:
“I would actually be quite interested to see the demo breakdown of AR - would be interesting to see how many 16 - 34 make up its audeince, obv very low but I think it will have a degree of almost cult following in that age group.
..”
“I would actually be quite interested to see the demo breakdown of AR - would be interesting to see how many 16 - 34 make up its audeince, obv very low but I think it will have a degree of almost cult following in that age group.
..”
Its a bit of an institution & the BBC needs to cater to every age group. As pizza says its part of that gentle line up that includes Summer Wine & Songs of Praise. Interesting that AR used to run pre Songs Of Praise but now AR is in primetime.
I just think it is wrong for primetime though & should occupy the 6-7pm slot like it used to.
Originally Posted by rzt:
“CBS are so solid at the moment.”
“CBS are so solid at the moment.”
They have been for a long time. Following on from what somebody else posted yesterday about tv channels apealing to specific age groups in the US, CBS is the only tv network that still bases itself on total viewers as opposed to 18-49's or 16-24's or whatever.
CBS dont take too many risks though. They must have about half a dozen crime procedurals filling up most of the schedule.
Originally Posted by sn_22:
“Really nice to see lots of new Saturday Night dramas on both channels. The return of Doctor Who kicked things off a few years ago, with the BBC following up with Robin Hood and Merlin, and ITV getting on board with Primeval. Some of these new projects look interesting.
From a ratings point of view, it would be very easy to take less of a risk and just commission more and more talent show formats - its good that they're taking risks on drama and I hope it pays off for both.”
“Really nice to see lots of new Saturday Night dramas on both channels. The return of Doctor Who kicked things off a few years ago, with the BBC following up with Robin Hood and Merlin, and ITV getting on board with Primeval. Some of these new projects look interesting.
From a ratings point of view, it would be very easy to take less of a risk and just commission more and more talent show formats - its good that they're taking risks on drama and I hope it pays off for both.”
Shows like Robin Hood and Merlin would have been enormous hits in the eighties and nineties. The problem for every Autumn Saturday family show for the BBC is the X Factor generation. I read recently that Merlins audience has a significant proportion of older people who presumably spilled over from SCD in its first week. I bet that wasnt the Beebs plan for Merlin though plunging it straight in to the Lions den against X Factor presumably alienated alot of its potential audience from the start.
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“Shows like Robin Hood and Merlin would have been enormous hits in the eighties and nineties. The problem for every Autumn Saturday family show for the BBC is the X Factor generation. I read recently that Merlins audience has a significant proportion of older people who presumably spilled over from SCD in its first week. I bet that wasnt the Beebs plan for Merlin though plunging it straight in to the Lions den against X Factor presumably alienated alot of its potential audience from the start.”
“Shows like Robin Hood and Merlin would have been enormous hits in the eighties and nineties. The problem for every Autumn Saturday family show for the BBC is the X Factor generation. I read recently that Merlins audience has a significant proportion of older people who presumably spilled over from SCD in its first week. I bet that wasnt the Beebs plan for Merlin though plunging it straight in to the Lions den against X Factor presumably alienated alot of its potential audience from the start.”
Yeah - I've always been quite puzzled why they launched Merlin when they did. There seems to be enough space to run it at other points of the year. For the past couple of years, they've only had 2 13 episode runs of Saturday drama (Doctor Who and Merlin), and I found it strange that they kept putting one of those (RH) in the most competetive run of the year. Especially considering they already had the enourmous ratings banker of Strictly. I'd always thought (and I do bang on about this a lot!
) that they should have run it in the New Year before Doctor Who season started.I guess things are changing now anyway, with Merlin taking the autumn run and presumably Robin Hood running either early next year or in the Doctor Who slot. If they keep getting recommissioned, along with the new Superheroes one and DW returning in 2010, they look like developing year round Saturday Night drama rota.
On the Sunday scheduling issue - it does seem silly that BBC One and Two are going to be competing with each other so much, but its not really surprising - they don't seem to shy away from running big hitters against eachother. Good news for ITV on the whole though - Strictly moving to 7.15 would have been terrible for Britannia High.
Originally Posted by MattJKR:
“In other news Gavin & Stacey series 2 comes to BBC One this autumn starting in week 47 (15 - 21 Nov), I would assume it'll get the LB USA slot...”
“In other news Gavin & Stacey series 2 comes to BBC One this autumn starting in week 47 (15 - 21 Nov), I would assume it'll get the LB USA slot...”
More utter clownery from BBC Scheduling then.
If the Christmas Special is on BBC1, presumably at 10.30pm on Christmas Day, and they need to build it a mass audience before then, why bring series 2 to BBC1 but not series 1? Surely people who aren't aware of it will want to watch it from the start?
They've been re-running series 1 on BBC3 over recent weeks; they should have put it on BBC1 instead.
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“BBC1 plans Marvel comic-inspired superhero series
Exclusive: BBC1 is lining up a superhero series for a prime-time Saturday night slot.”
“BBC1 plans Marvel comic-inspired superhero series
Exclusive: BBC1 is lining up a superhero series for a prime-time Saturday night slot.”
If it's a success, you can guarantee that ITV1 will have a prime-time Saturday night series about superheroes too within 18 months...
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“More utter clownery from BBC Scheduling then....”
“More utter clownery from BBC Scheduling then....”
On the "Outnumbered" thread, I see someone is claiming that this brilliant comedy from last year is returning next month on BBC1 at 9pm on Saturdays.
Can't see it myself, think it would flop big time there - particularly if X-Factor overlaps it.
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“If it's a success, you can guarantee that ITV1 will have a prime-time Saturday night series about superheroes too within 18 months...”
“If it's a success, you can guarantee that ITV1 will have a prime-time Saturday night series about superheroes too within 18 months...
”
I wonder where BBC1 got the idea of a Saturday night series about Robin Hood in Sherrwood from............
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“More utter clownery from BBC Scheduling then.
If the Christmas Special is on BBC1, presumably at 10.30pm on Christmas Day, and they need to build it a mass audience before then, why bring series 2 to BBC1 but not series 1? Surely people who aren't aware of it will want to watch it from the start?
They've been re-running series 1 on BBC3 over recent weeks; they should have put it on BBC1 instead.”
“More utter clownery from BBC Scheduling then.
If the Christmas Special is on BBC1, presumably at 10.30pm on Christmas Day, and they need to build it a mass audience before then, why bring series 2 to BBC1 but not series 1? Surely people who aren't aware of it will want to watch it from the start?
They've been re-running series 1 on BBC3 over recent weeks; they should have put it on BBC1 instead.”
Because S1 has already been shown on anologue TV.
S2 is transfering from BBC3-BBC1, rather than BBC2.
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“More utter clownery from BBC Scheduling then.
If the Christmas Special is on BBC1, presumably at 10.30pm on Christmas Day, and they need to build it a mass audience before then, why bring series 2 to BBC1 but not series 1? Surely people who aren't aware of it will want to watch it from the start?
They've been re-running series 1 on BBC3 over recent weeks; they should have put it on BBC1 instead.”
“More utter clownery from BBC Scheduling then.
If the Christmas Special is on BBC1, presumably at 10.30pm on Christmas Day, and they need to build it a mass audience before then, why bring series 2 to BBC1 but not series 1? Surely people who aren't aware of it will want to watch it from the start?
They've been re-running series 1 on BBC3 over recent weeks; they should have put it on BBC1 instead.”
Little Britain only got shown on BBC1 for its second series, and got 5-6m, despite it had already been shown on BBC3.
Series 3 then debuted on BBC1 with 9.5m.
From Brand Republic
Quote:
“Five's Uefa Cup coverage attracts 2.1m viewers
LONDON - Five's Uefa Cup coverage of Aston Villa's 2-1 win over Ajax pulled in 2.1m viewers, while BBC One's 'Silent Witness' won the prime time slot with 5.9m, according to unofficial overnight figures.
The match, which saw England midfielder Gareth Barry score the winning goal for Martin O'Neill's side, attracted 2.1m viewers and a 9.3% share of the 8.10pm-10.20pm audience.
Viewing peaked in the 9.45pm to 10pm quarter hour with 2.5m viewers tuning in, a 10.8% share of the audience.
The conclusion of a two-part 'Silent Witness', starring Tom Ward and Emilia Fox, pulled in 5.9m viewers (25.3%) on BBC One.”
“Five's Uefa Cup coverage attracts 2.1m viewers
LONDON - Five's Uefa Cup coverage of Aston Villa's 2-1 win over Ajax pulled in 2.1m viewers, while BBC One's 'Silent Witness' won the prime time slot with 5.9m, according to unofficial overnight figures.
The match, which saw England midfielder Gareth Barry score the winning goal for Martin O'Neill's side, attracted 2.1m viewers and a 9.3% share of the 8.10pm-10.20pm audience.
Viewing peaked in the 9.45pm to 10pm quarter hour with 2.5m viewers tuning in, a 10.8% share of the audience.
The conclusion of a two-part 'Silent Witness', starring Tom Ward and Emilia Fox, pulled in 5.9m viewers (25.3%) on BBC One.”
So it looks like ITV1 came 5th in the time from 9-9.30pm! That particular 9pm slot is becoming a pain for ITV lately with nothing working-Trinny & Susannah, Harley Street, Natural Born Sellers and now Real Crime.
Great ratings for FIVE, probably slightly denting the other terrestrials.
Great ratings for FIVE, probably slightly denting the other terrestrials.
SEPTEMBER SHARES:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/orga.../24/television
BBC1 20.8% [22.6%]
BBC2 7.6% [7.9%]
ITV1 18.3% [19.6%]
Channel 4 7.4% [7.5%]
Five 5.1% [4.9%]
[September last year in brackets]
Only Five increases; Channel 4 pretty steady; BBC2 down slightly; ITV1 and BBC1 seeing the biggest decreases
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/orga.../24/television
BBC1 20.8% [22.6%]
BBC2 7.6% [7.9%]
ITV1 18.3% [19.6%]
Channel 4 7.4% [7.5%]
Five 5.1% [4.9%]
[September last year in brackets]
Only Five increases; Channel 4 pretty steady; BBC2 down slightly; ITV1 and BBC1 seeing the biggest decreases
Originally Posted by ZoeMcCallister:
“So it looks like ITV1 came 5th in the time from 9-9.30pm! That particular 9pm slot is becoming a pain for ITV lately with nothing working-Trinny & Susannah, Harley Street, Natural Born Sellers and now Real Crime.
Great ratings for FIVE, probably slightly denting the other terrestrials.”
“So it looks like ITV1 came 5th in the time from 9-9.30pm! That particular 9pm slot is becoming a pain for ITV lately with nothing working-Trinny & Susannah, Harley Street, Natural Born Sellers and now Real Crime.
Great ratings for FIVE, probably slightly denting the other terrestrials.”
Why do they insist on showing Real Crime at 9pm? It is an absolute flop and a damaged brand which never does well at 9pm.
They should have shown the Bond documentary last night and aired Real Crime on Wednesday at 10.35pm.
Originally Posted by Score:
“Why do they insist on showing Real Crime at 9pm? It is an absolute flop and a damaged brand which never does well at 9pm.
They should have shown the Bond documentary last night and aired Real Crime on Wednesday at 10.35pm.”
“Why do they insist on showing Real Crime at 9pm? It is an absolute flop and a damaged brand which never does well at 9pm.
They should have shown the Bond documentary last night and aired Real Crime on Wednesday at 10.35pm.”
Real Crime was actually doing well in its Monday 10.35pm slot and pulling in a decent 1.5m.
I agree showing the Bond doc would have been good as long as ITV dropped the South Bank Show name from it, because that seemed to work for the Abba doc.
Australian Overnights: Thursday 23rd October 2008
ABC
19:00 ABC News 979,000
19:30 The 7.30 Report 816,000
20:00 Catalyst 803,000
20:30 The Prime Minister is Missing 1,241,000
21:35 Chasing Birds 396,000
Seven
17:30 Deal or No Deal 734,000
18:00 Seven News 1,346,000
18:30 Today Tonight 1,301,000
19:00 Home and Away 1,168,000
19:30 Make Me a Supermodel 978,000
20:30 The Amazing Race 1,008,000
21:30 Heroes 696,000
22:30 Prison Break 389,000
Nine
17:00 Antiques Roadshow 476,000
18:00 Nine News 1,009,000
18:30 A Current Affair 976,000
19:00 Two and a Half Men (R) 1,143,000
19:30 Getaway 1,039,000
20:30 The Strip 843,000
21:30 RPA 1,044,000
Ten
17:00 Ten News at Five 719,000
...
19:00 Friends (R) 508,000
19:30 Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader? 891,000
20:30 Law & Order: Criminal Intent 1,118,000
21:30 Law & Order: Special Victims Unit (R) 1,016,000
SBS
19:35 Inspector Rex (R) 384,000
Source: OzTAM
Evening shares
ABC 18.9%
Seven 26.8%
Nine 26.9%
Ten 23.0%
SBS 4.5%
ABC
19:00 ABC News 979,000
19:30 The 7.30 Report 816,000
20:00 Catalyst 803,000
20:30 The Prime Minister is Missing 1,241,000
21:35 Chasing Birds 396,000
Seven
17:30 Deal or No Deal 734,000
18:00 Seven News 1,346,000
18:30 Today Tonight 1,301,000
19:00 Home and Away 1,168,000
19:30 Make Me a Supermodel 978,000
20:30 The Amazing Race 1,008,000
21:30 Heroes 696,000
22:30 Prison Break 389,000
Nine
17:00 Antiques Roadshow 476,000
18:00 Nine News 1,009,000
18:30 A Current Affair 976,000
19:00 Two and a Half Men (R) 1,143,000
19:30 Getaway 1,039,000
20:30 The Strip 843,000
21:30 RPA 1,044,000
Ten
17:00 Ten News at Five 719,000
...
19:00 Friends (R) 508,000
19:30 Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader? 891,000
20:30 Law & Order: Criminal Intent 1,118,000
21:30 Law & Order: Special Victims Unit (R) 1,016,000
SBS
19:35 Inspector Rex (R) 384,000
Source: OzTAM
Evening shares
ABC 18.9%
Seven 26.8%
Nine 26.9%
Ten 23.0%
SBS 4.5%
Originally Posted by ZoeMcCallister:
“Real Crime was actually doing well in its Monday 10.35pm slot and pulling in a decent 1.5m.
”
“Real Crime was actually doing well in its Monday 10.35pm slot and pulling in a decent 1.5m.
”
I've watched a few later at night but hardly going to put this on in preference to Silent Witness. Well done for what they are & always about well known cases which you've followed via news.
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“SEPTEMBER SHARES:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/orga.../24/television
BBC1 20.8% [22.6%]
BBC2 7.6% [7.9%]
ITV1 18.3% [19.6%]
Channel 4 7.4% [7.5%]
Five 5.1% [4.9%]
[September last year in brackets]
Only Five increases; Channel 4 pretty steady; BBC2 down slightly; ITV1 and BBC1 seeing the biggest decreases”
“SEPTEMBER SHARES:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/orga.../24/television
BBC1 20.8% [22.6%]
BBC2 7.6% [7.9%]
ITV1 18.3% [19.6%]
Channel 4 7.4% [7.5%]
Five 5.1% [4.9%]
[September last year in brackets]
Only Five increases; Channel 4 pretty steady; BBC2 down slightly; ITV1 and BBC1 seeing the biggest decreases”
That's interesting. I'm trying to work out what big-hitters BBC One and ITV1 had last year in September, but were missing this year.
Neighbours and Rugby World Cup?
Originally Posted by Score:
“Confirmed:
Top Gear will return on Sunday 2nd November at 8pm, going up against SCD's 8.15pm results show and Heartbeat. Dragons Den: Outside the Den, airs at 9pm, against Sharpe and Stephen Fry.
What utter clowns.”
“Confirmed:
Top Gear will return on Sunday 2nd November at 8pm, going up against SCD's 8.15pm results show and Heartbeat. Dragons Den: Outside the Den, airs at 9pm, against Sharpe and Stephen Fry.
What utter clowns.”
Lets expel the myth that the BBC is a competitive, ratings hungry broadcaster right now.
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