Bugger. Thanks for reminding me - I'd forgotten about that - for the next 4 years...

What was TG's peak audience then? It was 7.6m last week - if it's something similar this week then that would be nearly 17m watching BBC1 and BBC2 at the same time!

I would give it if I had it, I just use the usual media sources.

It must have been at least 7m though.

An interesting way of calculating averages for 2 shows of very different lengths. Of course, the main shows are twice as long as the results shows. In which case you would find a more appropriate set of averages:

XF - 9.88m
SCD - 9.82m

With, of course, The X Factor being the most watched entertainment show of the week.

Interesting to see that Strictly's Sunday ratings have lost a million since it actually got some competition from Top Gear as oppose to the sleepy old Heartbeat. Only a few hundred thousand ahead of X Factor, and that's even with nearly 30 million sat in front of their TVs and a lead-in from one of the highest rated shows on BBC1!

Are you suggesting the Beeb should add 30 minutes to the SCD results show?

GeorgeS might expire if they did that...

And so might many of the viewers.

Top Gear did pretty badly!

Err?...

Why are people anticipating IACGMOH to do badly?

It's the type of light hearted show that does well in the current climate.

I think it's just because the show has been in decline for the past few years. The names being lined up aren't exactly the best and there doesn't seem to be the same buzz as there once was. I certainly don't think this will be the last, though. It should top 8m for the launch, and will probably win most of its slots and deliver big 16-34 numbers as well. So I don't think it will be doing badly, just not what it was.

It's because it's The Australian summer in November, so the weather should be at it's best for the series. If they tried airing it in August, the camp wouldn't be in a fit enough state.

I suppose they could try I'm A Celebrity...in the New Forest, though.


The only thing that kept IAC afloat last series IMO was Ant and Dec. The usually reliable spin off sunk thanks to the unnecessary play about with presenters; the introduction of Biggins was a disastrous twist that affected the series and the final was scheduled hopelessly on a Friday night.

It still has a chance to regroup, and anything can happen, but it's not starting on a high - which last series did.

As for Sunday's ratings: terrific once again for SCD and Top Gear. It's a shame in a way because I want the SCD results back on a Saturday. I think Top Gear's ratings would've been boosted by Clarkson's mouthy piece in the last episode.

Brittania High followed by Heartbeat...whatever planet ITV schedulers are on it certainly isn't Earth. Brittania High being defeated by Hole in the Wall just shows how sad TV has become nowadays. A new experimental programme (well...not that new, BBC1 tried it with Blackpool a couple of years back with reasonable success) is beaten by a second rate gameshow (albeit on the previous night). The usually reliable 9pm slot on Sunday is also being hit hard by the limp lead in.

I even saw Britannia High described as a 'hit' show on some other ITV show.
I think it was at the start of one of the X Factors where they had dancers fom Britannia High performing as a warm-up opening to the show. They were introduced as being from 'ITV's new HIT show Britannia High'.

I think that in a way it deserves to fail because I think it was lazy cynical programming. ITV have done what they seem to do a lot, pinch somebody else's ideas.
They've seen Highschool Musical do well in America and have apparently assumed that British kids love American stuff because they think it's 'cool', so therefore if we copy what American's like it's a guaranteed hit, right?
Wronggggg.
They appear to have tried to cynically target a specific demographic by tailoring a show to people based on marketing stats, and they've jumped to conclusions and failed.
Good I say, I'd much prefer some programming which tries a bit harder than just lazily copying something that did well somewhere else and to not approach ideas in such a cynically formulaic and unoriginal way.

I watched the first one and thought it was quite good, I said so in this very thread. But the next time I watched it was the one the other night and I couldn't last ten minutes. I couldn't understand how I could find the first episode to not be too bad only to find the third one to be unwatchable bilge.

I must admit that with it having 6 weeks left of it's run to go, there's a part of me that feels an element of schadenfreude and watching on with cruel delicious glee to see how low it can go to during that time.

Over the last couple of years they've hardly shown much of the celebrities in the camp.
They'll show about 10 minutes of actual events in the camp over the hour, and the rest of the show is made up of little mini-interviews with the celebs direct to camera, the daily task makes up a few minutes, showing a couple of them going to get a chest with a key to win food makes up a few minutes, then interviews of one or two celebrities giving a running commentary of the days events in that Bush Hut diary room, and Ant and Dec cracking the occasional joke at intervals.

After all that there's hardly any time left to show the celebs just living in the camp normally.

Maybe so if it's ratings competition between the two main channels which is the be all and end all. But I agree with the poster on a previous page who said that both ITV and the BBC should concentrate more on making great programmes rather than effectively trying to polish turds by sandwiching weak shows inbetween popular shows to try to make them look better than they really are.

Because if the emphasis was more on good original programming then they wouldn't need to worry so much about where they place it and end up being forced to prop it up in the schedule around more successful TV shows.

ITV1
3.15pm Spin Star 1.3m 17%

7pm Emmerdale 7.01m 32.8%
7.30pm Coronation Street 9.53m 41.5%
8pm Tonight 3m 12.4%
8.30pm Coronation Street 9.27m 37.9%
9pm The Commander: Abduction 5.3m 22%

BBC One
7pm The One Show 5.4m 25%
7.30pm Watchdog 5.2m 23%
8pm EastEnders 9.79m 40.3%
8.30pm Panorama 3.65m 14.9%
9pm Spooks 4.99m 21.1%

Ch 4
3.25pm Countdown 1.1m 11.9%

6.30pm Hollyoaks 2.09m 9.8%

8pm Ian Hislop: Not Forgotten: The Men Who Wouldn't Fight 1.64m 6.7%
9pm Time Team 2.63m 11.8%

BBC Two
3pm Murder, She Wrote 1.1m 15.1%

8pm University Challenge 2.9m (12%)
8.30pm Indian Food Made Easy 1.89m 7.7%
9pm Behind Closed Doors 1.55m 6.5%
10pm Have I Got News For You 1.2m 6.1%


Five
8pm The Gadget Show 1.2m 4.8%
9pm Unbreakable 806,000 3.4%
10pm Paul Merton in India 533,000 3.4%

BBC Three
10pm EastEnders 710,900 4%
10.30pm Spooks 691,500 6.1%

ITV2
9pm Hell's Kitchen USA 625,500 3% (+1: 164,500, 1.1%),
10pm Hell's Kitchen USA 685,900 4.4% (+1: 153,400, 2%)

ITV3
10pm Brides in the Bath 381,200 3.5%

ITV4
9pm Sanctuary 358,900 1.7%

Dave
9.40pm Argumental 256,000


http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/a1352...er-spooks.html

A strong set of ratings last night. BBC will be pleased EastEnders toppled Corrie as most watched show and they had really good performances from The One Show and Watchdog again. Dissapointing to see Spooks fall below 5 million - the first look on BBC Three taking over half a million dosen't help its rating. Nicking BBC One's biggest dramas before they've even aired to boost their ratings isn't what the channel should be doing.

Great to see an ITV 9pm Drama in 'The Commander' taking over 5 million and winning the slot.

That's brilliant for Watchdog. There's hardly any shows out there that can get 5m+ against Corrie. But why the sudden rise for Watchdog- wasn't it getting around 3/4m previously? Good figure for The One Show as well.

I've been wondering that. Has there been a new presenting team or format or something? (Like Fiona Bruce pushing AR up?). Alternatively, people are just becoming a bit more consumer savvy and looking to save money in the Credit Crunch. Whatever the reason, its doing fantastically to pull so many viewers - has it even dented Corrie slightly?!

Good ratings for EE, not so good for Corrie and what the hell? Spooks shouldn't be below 5 million! I love that show. Is it the BBC 3 first look thing that's causing it or was ITV's competition hyped up or something?

Oh yes, most definitely. Firstly, Corrie wasn't the most watched programme yesterday, which is a rareity itself. Secondly, the equivalent Monday episode last year got 11.0m (47%). That's a big drop in viewers and share- Watchdog obviously playing a major part in denting Corrie's performance.


The BBC3 first-look is affecting the BBC1 rating. But it doesn't really matter- what BBC1 loses, BBC3 gains. Also, The Commander is a pretty good show with a healthy audience. Last year, it got 6.5m for its first episode of that series in the summer. Although the figure is well down for the programme, 5.3m is good for ITV these days.

Are you being serious? Even with that being one of its poorer performing episodes its still an amazing figure.

What did EE get at the same stage last year?

Maybe. A theory did cross my mind that Antiques Roadshow has been enjoying its boost because people are wondering what the items they might have rattling around in their attics are worth.

Seems as if cheap & cheerful tv is back in fashion.

I'm going to pitch a show called "50 ways to strech a £5 note" to BBC1. It should be guaranteed at least 5m if it follows The One Show.

And for Sunday nights "Cash in Your Dustbin" looking at how much your old garbage can raise at 2nd hand auctions. A spin-off will feature walking trips around major UK landfills.

EastEnders got 9.4m (40%) on the equivalent Monday last year. So, EE is up. All of EE's ratings this year indicate that EE's non-clash episodes are up on last year. It's only the clash episodes which are bringing the average down from last year. Pretty impressive.

The One Show got 4.6m for the equivalent Monday last year so that's 800,000 up.

Next Monday will be a year since The One Show first hit the 5m mark (5.1m on Monday 19/11). It dropped quite dramatically over the summer and hovered under 4m for most of June/July/August so it's nice to see it's risen back up to even higher than last year's levels.