The Ratings Thread (Part 3 (1))

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KaptainKitten

15-11-2008

Originally Posted by cylon6:
“That is an absolutely amazing stat which has been completely overlooked Antiques Roadshow beating Britannia High in the key 16-34 demographic!! Unbelievable!! ”

It does show how dubous the concept of an age range is when it comes to determining who's watching.

I very much doubt Antiques Roadshow had many 16-24 yr olds watching,of the 16-34 range it would nearly all be at the 34 end.

Britannia high would have a much higher proportion at the 16 end.

Age range and "reach" are noted for their ability to falsify information.

Cent

15-11-2008

Originally Posted by KaptainKitten:
“It does show how dubous the concept of an age range is when it comes to determining who's watching.

I very much doubt Antiques Roadshow had many 16-24 yr olds watching,of the 16-34 range it would nearly all be at the 34 end.

Britannia high would have a much higher proportion at the 16 end.

Age range and "reach" are noted for their ability to falsify information.”

Advertising works in stereotypes. Young people are valueable, old people are not.

Maybe if you do break it down further it would look better for Britannia High, but in 16-34s you are already in the 400,000s, you go any further down and its just getting ridiculious.

"Britannia High achieved 150,000 16-24s." Well great, but Big Brother gets over 1 million 16-34s every night for 3 months, Hollyoaks and The Simpsons get nearly 1m 16-34s every weeknight for a whole year. It's not a great number no matter how you put it.

yorkie100

15-11-2008

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“This is an ill-informed view at best. Freeview+ recorders offer the same functionality as a Sky+ box, but without the subscription. In fact, often they offer MORE features than Sky+. The only weakness of a Freeview+ recorder compared to Sky+ that I can think of is the fewer number of channels on offer but Freeview has the main ones covered.

Sky HD admittedly is an innovative service, but plans for HD on Freeview are really gaining momentum now which will certainly weaken Sky's offering.

^ And will probably boost BBC HD's ratings. ”

I agree with most of that. As someone who has had non Sky+ hard drive recorder for 5+ years - it is certainly true that many of them are superior in all sorts of ways to Sky+.

Also HD is only ever going to be a niche service in this country - at least for many many years.

KennyT

15-11-2008

Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“I agree with most of that. As someone who has had non Sky+ hard drive recorder for 5+ years - it is certainly true that many of them are superior in all sorts of ways to Sky+.

Also HD is only ever going to be a niche service in this country - at least for many many years.”

As someone who has just bought a 40"LCD TV for the lounge, I thought I would be able to see enough "graininess" through my freeview PVR to warrant investing in an HD box. You know what? Maybe it's my eyesight, but I can't see that HD would be SO much better. It would be interesting to try it for a while, I suppose, but I can't see that it would make such a huge difference.

K

davey_wavey

15-11-2008

I wonder how Children In Need did last night.. I can see it getting an 8 million average between 7 and 10pm..it will be interesting to see anyway, especially how the soaps and Taggart held up against it.

RobbieSykes123

15-11-2008

I posted this on the Christmas TV thread, but as it was scheduling/ratings-related, thought I'd repost it here...

Quote:
“As for the schedules, I think most people expect BBC1 to stick to its now established scheduling format for the big day, but I think they should go aggressive and put the SCD special out at teatime (where it will still pull a big audience, more than something like My Family would) and force ITV to make some tough decisions about where Emmerdale and Corrie go.

Something like:

BBC1

2.00 Cowell-free Christmas TOTP
3.00 The Queen
3.10 Film: The Incredibles
5.00 News
5.10 SCD Christmas Special
6.20 EE
6.50 Wallace & Gromit: A Matter of Loaf and Death
7.20 Doctor Who: The Next Doctor
8.30 EE
9.00 The Royle Family
10.00 Gavin & Stacey
11.00 News
11.10 Film: TBA

BBC1 always leaves at least 2 hours between its showings of EE to allow ITV room for Emmerdale and Corrie, but the above would bugger that up a bit. And Granada wouldn't be happy seeing Corrie scheduled at 9pm against its own Royle Family, and that wouldn't really leave room for Midsomer Murders, which looks like being ITV1's prime festive offering.

I hope BBC1 doesn't overdo it with Wallace & Gromit on Christmas Day - I'd keep the new 30 min episode for Christmas night, and run the feature film on the Saturday night before Christmas in between the SCD final and results shows. They'd clean up against ITV's X-Factor-free line-up and set things up nicely for the new episode on Christmas Day.

I do hope we get a Wallace & Gromit festive BBC1 ident though, like BBC2 had when The Wrong Trousers premiered. Please!!”

Thoughts?

RobbieSykes123

15-11-2008

Originally Posted by davey_wavey:
“I wonder how Children In Need did last night.. I can see it getting an 8 million average between 7 and 10pm..it will be interesting to see anyway, especially how the soaps and Taggart held up against it.”

It got 9.56m last year between 7pm and 10pm, and that was with IACGMOOH against it too, rather than Taggart.

It will be a major disappointment if it only averaged 8m, particularly with Corrie seemingly on the slide at the moment...

Pizzatheaction

15-11-2008

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“BBC1

2.00 Cowell-free Christmas TOTP
3.00 The Queen
3.10 Film: The Incredibles
5.00 News
5.10 SCD Christmas Special
6.20 EE
6.50 Wallace & Gromit: A Matter of Loaf and Death
7.20 Doctor Who: The Next Doctor
8.30 EE
9.00 The Royle Family
10.00 Gavin & Stacey
11.00 News
11.10 Film: TBA”

I like your schedule. I also think BBC One needs to do something different this Christmas Day. The SCD special just gives ITV the chance to slot an hour of Coronation St slap bang in the middle of primetime. Moving SCD to an earlier slot would be a good idea.

The BBC should get all their big-hitters back-to-back, and a pre-recorded SCD Christmas special is not a big-hitter.

RobbieSykes123

15-11-2008

Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“I like your schedule. I also think BBC One needs to do something different this Christmas Day. The SCD special just gives ITV the chance to slot an hour of Coronation St slap bang in the middle of primetime. Moving SCD to an earlier slot would be a good idea.

The BBC should get all their big-hitters back-to-back, and a pre-recorded SCD Christmas special is not a big-hitter.”

This is how I see Saturday 20th December:

BBC1:
5.35 Hole in the Wall Xmas Special
[Wallace & Gromit-themed Christmas ident launches]
6.10 SCD
7.30 Film: Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit
8.50 SCD
9.35 Casualty
10.25 Lottery
10.35 News
10.50 MOTD

ITV1:
6.10 The Best of Best Ever Christmas You've Been Framed
7.10 The Best of TV Burp
7.40 Family Fortunes Christmas Special
8.40 Britain Sings Christmas II
9.40 An Audience with.... (some Cowell tat act du jour)
10.40 News
10.50 TV's Naughtiest Christmas Blunders 39

Against that, the BBC1 line-up above could secure a solid 10m from 6.10 till after 10pm...

mousecat

15-11-2008

Hilarious schedule for ITV, Robbie - please do Sunday too

Digital Sid

15-11-2008

Can someone post a full (or near enough) predicted schedule for christmas day on the 5 main channels?

Digital Sid

15-11-2008

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“I posted this on the Christmas TV thread, but as it was scheduling/ratings-related, thought I'd repost it here...

Thoughts? ”

wasn't the christmas totp axed?

RobbieSykes123

15-11-2008

Originally Posted by mousecat:
“Hilarious schedule for ITV, Robbie - please do Sunday too ”

It wasn't a comedy effort, if we revisit this in 3 weeks time, I bet it won't be far off!

Had I gone for comic effect, I would have put a "New" in front of "The Best of Best Ever Christmas You've Been Framed"

RobbieSykes123

15-11-2008

Originally Posted by Digital Sid:
“wasn't the christmas totp axed?”

Yes, but it will be there. Trust me...

D.M.N.

15-11-2008

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Yes, but it will be there. Trust me... ”

Yeah.... we'll see.

Anyone know how many episodes the current series of Antiques Roadshow has, and how many are left i.e. when will it finish?

MattJKR

15-11-2008

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Yeah.... we'll see.

Anyone know how many episodes the current series of Antiques Roadshow has, and how many are left i.e. when will it finish?”

I believe the series contains 26 episodes. So it will end in Spring 2009, probs around the same time Strictly Come Dancing On Ice (oh wait, Dancing On Ice) finishes.

D.M.N.

15-11-2008

Originally Posted by MattJKR:
“I believe the series contains 26 episodes. So it will end in Spring 2009, probs around the same time Strictly Come Dancing On Ice (oh wait, Dancing On Ice) finishes.”

Any idea, what replaces it?

KennyT

15-11-2008

Anyone reckon there'll be a bumper audience AR this week, what with the leak of the £1m item on the show?

K

cylon6

15-11-2008

Originally Posted by KennyT:
“Anyone reckon there'll be a bumper audience AR this week, what with the leak of the £1m item on the show?

K”

I think there will.

Who Wants To Be A Millionaire got a bump in ratings when they leaked that somebody had finally won the jackpot. And also after some time in the doldrums they got a ratings boost when they showed the episode featuring the coughing Major after the court case.

The question is how much of a boost will it get? Could it hit 10 or maybe 11 million?

Agent F

15-11-2008

Originally Posted by KennyT:
“Anyone reckon there'll be a bumper audience AR this week, what with the leak of the £1m item on the show?

K”

No doubt. Even I'm intrigued.

soupnazi

15-11-2008

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“It wasn't a comedy effort, if we revisit this in 3 weeks time, I bet it won't be far off!

Had I gone for comic effect, I would have put a "New" in front of "The Best of Best Ever Christmas You've Been Framed" ”

Yes Robbie. You're absolutely hilarious!! Do you help write the brilliant material for Brucie on the No1 Saturday night show (sic) Strictly?

A Cillay

15-11-2008

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Against that, the BBC1 line-up above could secure a solid 10m from 6.10 till after 10pm...”

10m for Casualty?

Doubtful.

Digital Sid

15-11-2008

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Yes, but it will be there. Trust me... ”

What makes you think this?

soupnazi

15-11-2008

Originally Posted by Digital Sid:
“What makes you think this?”

He's privy to crucial, top secret information that he's just read in today's Times and Telegraph.

Both articles say TOTP may return next year. And that a Xmas special is "under consideration".

Digital Sid

15-11-2008

Originally Posted by soupnazi:
“He's privy to crucial, top secret information that he's just read in today's Times and Telegraph.

Both articles say TOTP may return next year. And that a Xmas special is "under consideration".”

Lol.

Christmas this year or next?

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