The Ratings Thread (Part 3 (1))

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A Cillay

17-11-2008

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“I think ITV could have easily put a new ep of Midsomer or Frost into the 9pm slot if they wished. BBC's charitee shows now include CiN, Comic Relief, Sports Relief, SCD, the save the planet show Live Aid,Diana Aid,,,,,

One could think the BBC goes after these big charitee events for ratings ”

To be fair Comic Relief and Sport Relief come as one entity, either one or the other. Diana and World Aid were both one offs.

Anyway what ever happend to Soccer Aid or the Mandela concert that never really caught on?

rzt

17-11-2008

Top 40 most watched programmes of 2008

Code:

01 - 13.88m - BRITAIN’S GOT TALENT FINAL RESULT (31/05/08) - ITV1
02 - 13.02m - CORONATION STREET (18/01/08) - ITV1
03 - 12.08m - DANCING ON ICE (16/03/08) - ITV1
04 - 11.86m - BRITAIN’S GOT TALENT (30/05/08) - ITV1
05 - 11.73m - EASTENDERS (24/03/08) - BBC1
06 - 11.65m - THE X FACTOR (01/11/08) - ITV1
07 - 10.57m - DOCTOR WHO (05/07/08) - BBC1 
08 - 10.07m - ANTIQUES ROADSHOW (16/11/08) - BBC1  ***Overnight
09 - 10.05m - UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE: Man Utd v Chelsea (21/05/08) - ITV1
10 - 9.95m - STRICTLY COME DANCING (26/10/08) BBC1
11 - 9.72m - THE X FACTOR RESULTS (01/11/08) - ITV1
12 - 9.66m - CHILDREN IN NEED 2008 (14/11/08) - BBC1  ***Overnight
13 - 9.36m - NEW TRICKS (18/08/08) - BBC1
14 - 9.29m - THE APPRENTICE (11/06/08) - BBC1
15 - 9.18m - MATCH OF THE DAY LIVE: England v Switzerland (06/02/08) - BBC1
16 - 9.08m - BRAZILIAN GRAND PRIX (02/11/08) - ITV1
17 - 8.91m - DANCING ON ICE - THE SKATE OFF (09/03/08) - ITV1 
18 - 8.90m - LEWIS (24/02/08) - ITV1
19 - 8.89m - I'M A CELEBRITY, GET ME OUT OF HERE! (16/11/08) - ITV1  ***Overnight
20 - 8.85m - EMMERDALE (02/01/08) - ITV1
21 - 8.84m - EURO 2008: MATCH OF THE DAY LIVE: Germany v Spain (29/06/08) - BBC1
22 - 8.80m - WIMBLEDON 2008 (30/06/08) - BBC1
23 - 8.59m - WILD AT HEART (02/03/08) - ITV1 
24 - 8.52m - A TOUCH OF FROST (19/10/08) - ITV1
25 - 8.51m - HEARTBEAT (06/01/08) - ITV1 
26 - 8.47m - CASUALTY (02/02/08) - BBC1
27 - 8.04m - ASHES TO ASHES (07/02/08) - BBC1
28 - 7.98m - MIDSOMER MURDERS (27/04/08) - ITV1
29 - 7.92m - FOYLES WAR (20/04/08) - ITV1 
30 - 7.80m - THE NATIONAL LOTTERY - IN IT TO WIN IT (02/02/08) - BBC1
31 - 7.76m - ANT AND DEC'S SATURDAY NIGHT TAKEAWAY (15/03/08) - ITV1
32 - 7.74m - TOP GEAR (02/1108) - BBC2
33 - 7.70m - FILM: HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET FIRE (05/10/08) - ITV1
34 - 7.69m - FLOOD (04/05/08) - ITV1
35 - 7.53m - FILM: INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADE (18/05/08) - BBC1
36 - 7.42m - WE ARE MOST AMUSED (15/11/08) - ITV1  ***Overnight
37 - 7.37m - EURO 2008 LIVE: Holland v Russia (21/06/08) - ITV1
38 - 7.36m - HARRY HILL’S TV BURP (26/01/08) - ITV1
39 - 7.29m - BBC NEWS AT TEN (14/11/08) - BBC1  ***Overnight
40 - 7.27m - LARK RISE TO CANDLEFORD (13/01/08) - BBC1

Source: DWF (Andy Parish)

GeorgeS

17-11-2008

Originally Posted by rzt:
“Top 40 most watched programmes of 2008

01 - 13.88m - BRITAIN’S GOT TALENT FINAL RESULT (31/05/08) - ITV1
02 - 13.02m - CORONATION STREET (18/01/08) - ITV1
03 - 12.08m - DANCING ON ICE (16/03/08) - ITV1
04 - 11.86m - BRITAIN’S GOT TALENT (30/05/08) - ITV1
05 - 11.73m - EASTENDERS (24/03/08) - BBC1
06 - 11.65m - THE X FACTOR (01/11/08) - ITV1
07 - 10.57m - DOCTOR WHO (05/07/08) - BBC1
08 - 10.07m - ANTIQUES ROADSHOW (16/11/08) - BBC1***Overnight
09 - 10.05m - UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE: Man Utd v Chelsea (21/05/08) - ITV1
10 - 9.95m - STRICTLY COME DANCING (26/10/08) BBC1
11 - 9.72m - THE X FACTOR RESULTS (01/11/08) - ITV1
12 - 9.66m - CHILDREN IN NEED 2008 (14/11/08) - BBC1***Overnight
13 - 9.36m - NEW TRICKS (18/08/08) - BBC1
14 - 9.29m - THE APPRENTICE (11/06/08) - BBC1
15 - 9.18m - MATCH OF THE DAY LIVE: England v Switzerland (06/02/08) - BBC1
16 - 9.08m - BRAZILIAN GRAND PRIX (02/11/08) - ITV1
17 - 8.91m - DANCING ON ICE - THE SKATE OFF (09/03/08) - ITV1
18 - 8.90m - LEWIS (24/02/08) - ITV1
19 - 8.89m - I'M A CELEBRITY, GET ME OUT OF HERE! (16/11/08) - ITV1***Overnight
20 - 8.85m - EMMERDALE (02/01/08) - ITV1
21 - 8.84m - EURO 2008: MATCH OF THE DAY LIVE: Germany v Spain (29/06/08) - BBC1
22 - 8.80m - WIMBLEDON 2008 (30/06/08) - BBC1
23 - 8.59m - WILD AT HEART (02/03/08) - ITV1
24 - 8.52m - A TOUCH OF FROST (19/10/08) - ITV1
25 - 8.51m - HEARTBEAT (06/01/08) - ITV1
26 - 8.47m - CASUALTY (02/02/08) - BBC1
27 - 8.04m - ASHES TO ASHES (07/02/08) - BBC1
28 - 7.98m - MIDSOMER MURDERS (27/04/08) - ITV1
29 - 7.92m - FOYLES WAR (20/04/08) - ITV1
30 - 7.80m - THE NATIONAL LOTTERY - IN IT TO WIN IT (02/02/08) - BBC1
31 - 7.76m - ANT AND DEC'S SATURDAY NIGHT TAKEAWAY (15/03/08) - ITV1
32 - 7.74m - TOP GEAR (02/1108) - BBC2
33 - 7.70m - FILM: HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET FIRE (05/10/08) - ITV1
34 - 7.69m - FLOOD (04/05/08) - ITV1
35 - 7.53m - FILM: INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADE (18/05/08) - BBC1
36 - 7.42m - WE ARE MOST AMUSED (15/11/08) - ITV1***Overnight
37 - 7.37m - EURO 2008 LIVE: Holland v Russia (21/06/08) - ITV1
38 - 7.36m - HARRY HILL’S TV BURP (26/01/08) - ITV1
39 - 7.29m - BBC NEWS AT TEN (14/11/08) - BBC1***Overnight
40 - 7.27m - LARK RISE TO CANDLEFORD (13/01/08) - BBC1

Source: DWF (Andy Parish)”

The England v Germany game should make the Top 30 this week.

If ITV wanted to be cynical (not that they ever would) the couls show a different special every week between X Factor shows. This would get another 10 shows into the Top 40

Score

17-11-2008

An interesting article from Media Guardian on ITV drama:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008...itv-television

Pizzatheaction

17-11-2008

Originally Posted by Score:
“An interesting article from Media Guardian on ITV drama:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008...itv-television”

Interesting that Moving Wallpaper has a halved commission for its second series. More grist to the mill of my feelings it was only re-commissioned out of pride.

KennyT

17-11-2008

@rzt,

Don't you think it would be interesting to multiply each show by the length of time it was on!!!!! Methinks CiN might just be top!

K

GeorgeS

17-11-2008

Originally Posted by KennyT:
“@rzt,

Don't you think it would be interesting to multiply each show by the length of time it was on!!!!! Methinks CiN might just be top!

K”

Add together all the Coronation Street Episodes and about half a billion people will have watced it

Pizzatheaction

17-11-2008

Seems we can knock 624k off Stephen Fry's figures:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pre...scotland.shtml

Cent

17-11-2008

Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“Seems we can knock 624k off Stephen Fry's figures:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pre...scotland.shtml”

Thats not really fair unless we do that with every show BBC1 Scotland moves, which is a lot of programming.

Plus we dont have the ratings Stephen Fry got at 10.30pm.

And its still an accurate representation of the amount of people watching BBC1 at 9pm.

Pizzatheaction

17-11-2008

Originally Posted by Cent:
“Thats not really fair unless we do that with every show BBC1 Scotland moves, which is a lot of programming.

Plus we dont have the ratings Stephen Fry got at 10.30pm.

And its still an accurate representation of the amount of people watching BBC1 at 9pm.”

True.

I didn't mean it in a nasty way. I just thought it was an interesting breakdown of the figures.

RobbieSykes123

17-11-2008

Originally Posted by rzt:
“ITV should really move BH to another timeslot, instead of keeping it out of pride. It's rating awfully..”

Oh, I don't know. I think it's rating wonderfully...

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“I think ITV could have easily put a new ep of Midsomer or Frost into the 9pm slot if they wished. BBC's charitee shows now include CiN, Comic Relief, Sports Relief, SCD, the save the planet show Live Aid,Diana Aid,,,,, One could think the BBC goes after these big charitee events for ratings ”

I thought you were being silly with your "more and more BBC charity events" attack. Now you've proved it.

Can someone fill in the remaining blanks in the Top 40 below....?

Quote:
“Top 40 most watched programmes of 2008 - counting each programme only once

01 - 13.88m - BRITAIN’S GOT TALENT (31/05/08) - ITV1
02 - 13.02m - CORONATION STREET (18/01/08) - ITV1
03 - 12.08m - DANCING ON ICE (16/03/08) - ITV1
04 - 11.73m - EASTENDERS (24/03/08) - BBC1
05 - 11.65m - THE X FACTOR (01/11/08) - ITV1
06 - 10.57m - DOCTOR WHO (05/07/08) - BBC1
07 - 10.07m - ANTIQUES ROADSHOW (16/11/08) - BBC1 ***Overnight
08 - 10.05m - UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE: Man Utd v Chelsea (21/05/08) - ITV1
09 - 9.95m - STRICTLY COME DANCING (26/10/08) BBC1
10 - 9.66m - CHILDREN IN NEED 2008 (14/11/08) - BBC1 ***Overnight
11 - 9.36m - NEW TRICKS (18/08/08) - BBC1
12 - 9.29m - THE APPRENTICE (11/06/08) - BBC1
13 - 9.18m - MATCH OF THE DAY LIVE: England v Switzerland (06/02/08) - BBC1
14 - 9.08m - BRAZILIAN GRAND PRIX (02/11/08) - ITV1
15 - 8.90m - LEWIS (24/02/08) - ITV1
16 - 8.89m - I'M A CELEBRITY, GET ME OUT OF HERE! (16/11/08) - ITV1 ***Overnight
17 - 8.85m - EMMERDALE (02/01/08) - ITV1
18 - 8.84m - EURO 2008: MATCH OF THE DAY LIVE: Germany v Spain (29/06/08) - BBC1
19 - 8.80m - WIMBLEDON 2008 (30/06/08) - BBC1
20 - 8.59m - WILD AT HEART (02/03/08) - ITV1
21 - 8.52m - A TOUCH OF FROST (19/10/08) - ITV1
22 - 8.51m - HEARTBEAT (06/01/08) - ITV1
23 - 8.47m - CASUALTY (02/02/08) - BBC1
24 - 8.04m - ASHES TO ASHES (07/02/08) - BBC1
25 - 7.98m - MIDSOMER MURDERS (27/04/08) - ITV1
26 - 7.92m - FOYLES WAR (20/04/08) - ITV1
27 - 7.80m - THE NATIONAL LOTTERY - IN IT TO WIN IT (02/02/08) - BBC1
28 - 7.76m - ANT AND DEC'S SATURDAY NIGHT TAKEAWAY (15/03/08) - ITV1
29 - 7.74m - TOP GEAR (02/1108) - BBC2
30 - 7.70m - FILM: HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET FIRE (05/10/08) - ITV1
31 - 7.69m - FLOOD (04/05/08) - ITV1
32 - 7.53m - FILM: INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADE (18/05/08) - BBC1
33 - 7.42m - WE ARE MOST AMUSED (15/11/08) - ITV1 ***Overnight
34 - 7.37m - EURO 2008 LIVE: Holland v Russia (21/06/08) - ITV1
35 - 7.36m - HARRY HILL’S TV BURP (26/01/08) - ITV1
36 - 7.29m - BBC NEWS AT TEN (14/11/08) - BBC1 ***Overnight
37 - 7.27m - LARK RISE TO CANDLEFORD (13/01/08) - BBC1

38 - ????????
39 - ????????
40 - ????????
”

RobbieSykes123

17-11-2008

Quote:
“03 - 12.08m - DANCING ON ICE (16/03/08) - ITV1

09 - 9.95m - STRICTLY COME DANCING (26/10/08) BBC1”

It really is a travesty that a lightweight, saccharine copycat show should have rated so much better than the original and classier product. I do hope SCD can put this injustice right on 20th December!

AGNUS_BROWN

17-11-2008

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“It really is a travesty that a lightweight, saccharine copycat show should have rated so much better than the original and classier product. I do hope SCD can put this injustice right on 20th December!”

I can't stand DOI, the way Phillip Schofield shouts annoys me.

Polonius

17-11-2008

:yawn: Don't you eventually bore yourself with your pro-BBC, anti-ITV tirades?

AGNUS_BROWN

17-11-2008

Originally Posted by Polonius:
“:yawn: Don't you eventually bore yourself with your pro-BBC, anti-ITV tirades? ”

The same could be said for GeorgeS Eg. pro ITV, anti BBC.

A Cillay

17-11-2008

Originally Posted by AGNUS_BROWN:
“I can't stand DOI, the way Phillip Schofield shouts annoys me. ”

Ditto but Brucie's not much better TBH. He's a moron of the highest order and should be banned from British television. I dont care how old he is, he ruins my favourite TV show.

Sorry.

Fudd

17-11-2008

Originally Posted by Polonius:
“:yawn: Don't you eventually bore yourself with your pro-BBC, anti-ITV tirades? ”

Originally Posted by AGNUS_BROWN:
“The same could be said for GeorgeS Eg. pro ITV, anti BBC.”

Oh god we're not starting this old chestnut of 'one channel is far superior to the other' again are we?

Both BBC and ITV have their good points. Both have their bad points. I feel slightly more sympathetic towards ITV1 at the moment because half decent programming they air struggle while rubbish on BBC1 gets good ratings. But that's not to say BBC1 don't do good programming.

Can't we just lay the stupid pro/anti tirades to rest for once and for all?

RobbieSykes123

17-11-2008

I've collated the top 10s for the main 2 channels.

I prefer to view them this way, and it's a good overview of performance.

BBC1:

1 EASTENDERS - 11.73m
2 DOCTOR WHO - 10.57m
3 ANTIQUES ROADSHOW - 10.07m ***Overnight
4 STRICTLY COME DANCING - 9.95m
5 CHILDREN IN NEED 2008 - 9.66m ***Overnight
6 NEW TRICKS - 9.36m
7 THE APPRENTICE - 9.29m
8 MATCH OF THE DAY LIVE: England v Switzerland - 9.18m
9 EURO 2008: MATCH OF THE DAY LIVE: Germany v Spain - 8.84m
10 WIMBLEDON 2008 - 8.80m

ITV1:

1 BRITAIN’S GOT TALENT - 13.88m
2 CORONATION STREET - 13.02m
3 DANCING ON ICE - 12.08m
4 THE X FACTOR - 11.65m
5 UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE: Man Utd v Chelsea - 10.05m
6 BRAZILIAN GRAND PRIX - 9.08m
7 LEWIS - 8.90m
8 I'M A CELEBRITY, GET ME OUT OF HERE! - 8.89m ***Overnight
9 EMMERDALE - 8.85m
10 WILD AT HEART - 8.59m

Some thoughts:

- although ITV has the strongest top 3, BBC1's mid-table showing is stronger and ITV's 10th-rated show comes in lower than BBC1's

- apart from Lewis, and 2 bought-in sporting events, there's little real quality in ITV's top shows, it's all lowest-common denominator tat. Contrast with the quality and middle-brow programming in BBC1's top 10, EastEnders aside. ITV1 is clearly the Asda to BBC1's Sainsbury's.

- the best may still be to come for BBC1 - it should get 12m or so for SCD. EE might get 12-13m for its Christmas Day episode. Doctor Who's Xmas showing should see its ratings increase (unless it's actually called "Doctor Who: The Next Doctor", in which case BARB will presumably include Doctor Who twice...?

). Wallace & Gromit's new adventure should get 10m. The Royle Family might get 10m too on Christmas Day. The Royal Variety will rate well, depending what day it is shown. Jonathan Creek could get 9m. CIN might just get to 10m in the officials (but I doubt it). What else has ITV got to look forward to in 2008, other than TXF possibly bettering its 11.65m?

jde-tv

17-11-2008

Im glad DOI rates better.. it a better show that appeals to more people!

''ITV1 is clearly the Asda to BBC1's Sainsbury's'' I dont think ITV cares as long as its 'tat' gets more viewers...

Agent F

17-11-2008

Oh come on Robbie, it's a bit more certain than 'possibly'.

Chris1964

17-11-2008

Originally Posted by A Cillay:
“Ditto but Brucie's not much better TBH. He's a moron of the highest order and should be banned from British television. I dont care how old he is, he ruins my favourite TV show.

Sorry.”

Given that Bruce is a tv legend and a ratings god since the sixties there might be a few who think your being a touch harsh!

AGNUS_BROWN

17-11-2008

Originally Posted by jde-tv:
“Im glad DOI rates better.. it a better show that appeals to more people!

''ITV1 is clearly the Asda to BBC1's Sainsbury's'' I dont think ITV cares as long as its 'tat' gets more viewers...”

DOI is ok, it because ITV give it that cheap feel, lets it down.

Andy23

17-11-2008

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“- apart from Lewis, and 2 bought-in sporting events, there's little real quality in ITV's top shows, it's all lowest-common denominator tat. Contrast with the quality and middle-brow programming in BBC1's top 10, EastEnders aside. ITV1 is clearly the Asda to BBC1's Sainsbury's.”

There's money to be made from so called low common denominator tat, just ask Asda

So this thread isn't just ratings now?, it's also about so called quality as well? I'll remember this next time BBC1 wins the slot with Holby or Traffic Cops

Fudd

17-11-2008

Originally Posted by AGNUS_BROWN:
“DOI is ok, it because ITV give it that cheap feel, lets it down.”

To be honest I think SCD feels cheaper then Dancing On Ice. Have you seen the hard back chairs the judges sit on? And they use paddles while Dancing On Ice use electronic scoring. The whole set is very TV-ish. Looks glitzy, but is really a flatpack from IKEA.

And before you say anything I love SCD.

Agent F

17-11-2008

Originally Posted by AGNUS_BROWN:
“DOI is ok, it because ITV give it that cheap feel, lets it down.”

Doesn't look cheap to me. Of course it's on ITV so that must be it, eh?

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