Originally Posted by HarrisonMarks:
“Also 'typer' isn't a word (at least not in English).”
“Also 'typer' isn't a word (at least not in English).”
It is according to the OED.
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Originally Posted by anotherlongers:
“I've been a big fan of Victoria Coren for many years,”
“I've been a big fan of Victoria Coren for many years,”
Should she be mildly concerned about this?
Originally Posted by TheGrumpWizard:
“Oh dear. I made an error whilst quickly typing on the internet. Hang me now. I could still correct it but shall leave it as it is just so you can seethe every time you read it.”
“Oh dear. I made an error whilst quickly typing on the internet. Hang me now. I could still correct it but shall leave it as it is just so you can seethe every time you read it.”
But if you were quickly typing why would you insert an extra apostrophe?
Originally Posted by lundavra:
“It is according to the OED.”
“It is according to the OED.”
As I've said before the OED is descriptive not prescriptive. 'Ooiteepiiro' is a word meaning 'stupid word coinage', used by HarrisonMarks on the DigitalSpy forum 17/3/2015.
Originally Posted by Straker:
“It was "witty" you meant to say there.....?”
“It was "witty" you meant to say there.....?”
Well, Straker, there are a couple of other things I like about her
Originally Posted by atg:
“Should she be mildly concerned about this?”
“Should she be mildly concerned about this?”
No, atg, she should be very concerned
Originally Posted by jonbwfc:
“It's a perfectly cromulent word
.
A 'typer' is presumably someone who types. It's a valid derived english word (i.e. it conforms to the rule of grammar and it's meaning can be deduced). The fact we generally use 'typist' is a matter of.. tradition, I'd say? I've never quite understood why some 'people who do a thing' are 'ist' - cellist, soloist - while other things are 'er' - drummer, writer. There seems no real pattern as far as I can tell, the meanings of the two endings seem equivalent.”
“It's a perfectly cromulent word
.A 'typer' is presumably someone who types. It's a valid derived english word (i.e. it conforms to the rule of grammar and it's meaning can be deduced). The fact we generally use 'typist' is a matter of.. tradition, I'd say? I've never quite understood why some 'people who do a thing' are 'ist' - cellist, soloist - while other things are 'er' - drummer, writer. There seems no real pattern as far as I can tell, the meanings of the two endings seem equivalent.”
Celler and soloer sound odd as would writist and drummist. Perhaps that's why.
But it could avoid confusion, e.g. sewer - a person who sews and a pipe down which waste passes. Sewist (which some people are now using, but which I hate) is now sometimes being used for the person who sews to distinguish it from a waste pipe. Can't really think of any circumstance where the meaning of sewer could be confused.
Originally Posted by HarrisonMarks:
“As I've said before the OED is descriptive not prescriptive. 'Ooiteepiiro' is a word meaning 'stupid word coinage', used by HarrisonMarks on the DigitalSpy forum 17/3/2015.”
“As I've said before the OED is descriptive not prescriptive. 'Ooiteepiiro' is a word meaning 'stupid word coinage', used by HarrisonMarks on the DigitalSpy forum 17/3/2015.”
The OED is normally considered the definitive reference on words in the English language, not American dictionaries that happen to free online. They also give etymology and examples of uses of a word.
Unlike some suggestions, it was an alternative name for the typewriter (i.e. machine). Obsolete but still an English word.
FWIW, the OED is the usual arbiter of words for OC.
TYPER wouldn't work anyway since you needed an extra Y in the clue.
TYPER wouldn't work anyway since you needed an extra Y in the clue.
Originally Posted by lundavra:
“The OED is normally considered the definitive reference on words in the English language, not American dictionaries that happen to free online. They also give etymology and examples of uses of a word.
Unlike some suggestions, it was an alternative name for the typewriter (i.e. machine). Obsolete but still an English word.”
“The OED is normally considered the definitive reference on words in the English language, not American dictionaries that happen to free online. They also give etymology and examples of uses of a word.
Unlike some suggestions, it was an alternative name for the typewriter (i.e. machine). Obsolete but still an English word.”
OK, I concede defeat. Just shows they shouldn't set questions with more than one answer! (BTW I was using Chambers, not an online dictionary).
Originally Posted by davidbod:
“How is there more than one answer?”
“How is there more than one answer?”
OUTPOUR was the intended answer. TOPER was accepted.
Originally Posted by HarrisonMarks:
“OK, I concede defeat. Just shows they shouldn't set questions with more than one answer! (BTW I was using Chambers, not an online dictionary).”
“OK, I concede defeat. Just shows they shouldn't set questions with more than one answer! (BTW I was using Chambers, not an online dictionary).”
Not seen it recently but the printed version of the OED takes up roughly a whole shelf so tends to be more comprehensive than any single volume dictionary. I just have the two volume SOD myself but have access to the full OED online.
Originally Posted by atg:
“But if you were quickly typing why would you insert an extra apostrophe?”
“But if you were quickly typing why would you insert an extra apostrophe?”
Dear God. You actually posted that and you actually emboldened a word in it as normal type just wasn't enough.
Originally Posted by LordBobbin:
“ Talk about social misfits..”
“ Talk about social misfits..”
Funny you should say that.
Originally Posted by jenzie:
“oh and that lyrics question, from one of my all time fav songs too”
“oh and that lyrics question, from one of my all time fav songs too
”
Lower case 'o' to start your post? Please close your account, dispose of your computer and never darken the internet again. Ever.
Originally Posted by SimonK01:
“Perth in Scotland is twinned with Perth in Ontario, Canada (though not with Perth in Australia).”
“Perth in Scotland is twinned with Perth in Ontario, Canada (though not with Perth in Australia).”
Indeed it is fully twinned with Ontario and not just a sister city.
Originally Posted by TheGrumpWizard:
“Funny you should say that.”
“Funny you should say that.”
Yes, it's rare I can refer to somebody else as a social misfit without any sense of irony. However, when it comes to the OC contestants (particularly the middle-aged ones), they do seem a trifle, erm, peculiar..
Originally Posted by TheGrumpWizard:
“Indeed it is fully twinned with Ontario and not just a sister city.”
“Indeed it is fully twinned with Ontario and not just a sister city.”
As far as I can make out, "sister city" is just another term for what we Brits normally call "twin town". There are other lesser forms of association - for example, Perth in Australia has a "Charter of Mutual Friendship" with Perth in Scotland. http://www.perth.wa.gov.au/council/n.../sister-cities
Originally Posted by ClarkF1:
“The reverse acronym question seemed very familiar to me.
Has it been on before or was it on another show recently.”
“The reverse acronym question seemed very familiar to me.
Has it been on before or was it on another show recently.”
And the question was wrong. PHP and TTP are not acronyms!
Originally Posted by ClarkF1:
“The reverse acronym question seemed very familiar to me.
Has it been on before or was it on another show recently.”
“The reverse acronym question seemed very familiar to me.
Has it been on before or was it on another show recently.”
PHP (The first clue) was part of a Connections Round earlier this series, and it was the first clue in that as well- perhaps that's what you're thinking of?
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Been reading this thread for ages, but first post. We love OC - we're a bit of a strange family, two parents, two daughters (20 and 16) who love general knowledge quiz shows (although that's a bit of a down market description for OC!) and play 'competitive general knowledge rounds on Mastermind' among each other on Friday nights (often these days without 20 year old now she's at Uni!). 
But we don't mind what it is - and we always say, it doesn't matter how/where you get your knowledge from, it's simply good to have a wide general knowledge and keep the old brain exercised. 
But OC has that little extra because it comes at things in a different way with the way the questions work and the answers that are needed - and it particular appeals to the girls, whose primary school used to give them 'non verbal reasoning' exercises for homework! So OC lets them hark back to those days and practise those skills - skills which (as a teacher) I know aren't practised universally across most schools by any means, but certainly very useful for OC!
We found the first wall relatively easy (emphasis on the word 'relatively'!) this week, but I couldn't believe they only had the four poultry options on the second - I kept looking for the fifth to make it harder, but it wasn't there!
But the best question for us was should come fourth when the first option was 'The Avenue', and the second 'St. Anne's' - as Channel Islanders if we hadn't got that one on either the first, or at the most second clue we'd be put on the first boat out! Was rather surprised it took them so long, and all the way to having to see St. Peter Port before getting close to the answer - and even then, they took their time getting to the fourth being St. Helier!
Funny (ok, maybe only to me) when there's such fierce inter-Bailiwick rivalry to see all four represented up there in one 'group' with a linking reason - there's not much linking going on in real life! But they 'whys' and 'wherefores' might be useful for future quizzing...
...even though we're not a part of the UK but a 'Crown Dependency', and the Monarch isn't 'King' or 'Queen' here, but the 'Duke of Normandy' (including The Queen!), during the English Civil War Jersey stayed loyal to Crown and Guernsey, Alderney and Sark sided with Oliver Cromwell. It's never gone away since then - even for the 2011 Royal Wedding, Jersey States announced a Bank Holiday immediately, but Guernsey refused to/debated the issue for ages because of that breach during the Civil War. (They backed down eventually, though!)
Anyway, as you were - apologies for butting in and then getting carried away.
Will be sorry when the series is over, though. We came to OC relatively late compared to many on here, so will have to seek out some of the earliest episodes to keep our brains sharp before the next one!
But we don't mind what it is - and we always say, it doesn't matter how/where you get your knowledge from, it's simply good to have a wide general knowledge and keep the old brain exercised. But OC has that little extra because it comes at things in a different way with the way the questions work and the answers that are needed - and it particular appeals to the girls, whose primary school used to give them 'non verbal reasoning' exercises for homework! So OC lets them hark back to those days and practise those skills - skills which (as a teacher) I know aren't practised universally across most schools by any means, but certainly very useful for OC!
We found the first wall relatively easy (emphasis on the word 'relatively'!) this week, but I couldn't believe they only had the four poultry options on the second - I kept looking for the fifth to make it harder, but it wasn't there!
But the best question for us was should come fourth when the first option was 'The Avenue', and the second 'St. Anne's' - as Channel Islanders if we hadn't got that one on either the first, or at the most second clue we'd be put on the first boat out! Was rather surprised it took them so long, and all the way to having to see St. Peter Port before getting close to the answer - and even then, they took their time getting to the fourth being St. Helier!
Funny (ok, maybe only to me
) when there's such fierce inter-Bailiwick rivalry to see all four represented up there in one 'group' with a linking reason - there's not much linking going on in real life! But they 'whys' and 'wherefores' might be useful for future quizzing... ...even though we're not a part of the UK but a 'Crown Dependency', and the Monarch isn't 'King' or 'Queen' here, but the 'Duke of Normandy' (including The Queen!), during the English Civil War Jersey stayed loyal to Crown and Guernsey, Alderney and Sark sided with Oliver Cromwell. It's never gone away since then - even for the 2011 Royal Wedding, Jersey States announced a Bank Holiday immediately, but Guernsey refused to/debated the issue for ages because of that breach during the Civil War. (They backed down eventually, though!)
Anyway, as you were - apologies for butting in and then getting carried away.
Will be sorry when the series is over, though. We came to OC relatively late compared to many on here, so will have to seek out some of the earliest episodes to keep our brains sharp before the next one!
Originally Posted by SimonK01:
“As far as I can make out, "sister city" is just another term for what we Brits normally call "twin town". There are other lesser forms of association - for example, Perth in Australia has a "Charter of Mutual Friendship" with Perth in Scotland. http://www.perth.wa.gov.au/council/n.../sister-cities”
“As far as I can make out, "sister city" is just another term for what we Brits normally call "twin town". There are other lesser forms of association - for example, Perth in Australia has a "Charter of Mutual Friendship" with Perth in Scotland. http://www.perth.wa.gov.au/council/n.../sister-cities”
It certainly looks like it. Many thanks.
Originally Posted by jerseyporter:
“Been reading this thread for ages, but first post. We love OC - we're a bit of a strange family, two parents, two daughters (20 and 16) who love general knowledge quiz shows (although that's a bit of a down market description for OC!) and play 'competitive general knowledge rounds on Mastermind' among each other on Friday nights (often these days without 20 year old now she's at Uni!). But we don't mind what it is - and we always say, it doesn't matter how/where you get your knowledge from, it's simply good to have a wide general knowledge and keep the old brain exercised.
But OC has that little extra because it comes at things in a different way with the way the questions work and the answers that are needed - and it particular appeals to the girls, whose primary school used to give them 'non verbal reasoning' exercises for homework! So OC lets them hark back to those days and practise those skills - skills which (as a teacher) I know aren't practised universally across most schools by any means, but certainly very useful for OC!
We found the first wall relatively easy (emphasis on the word 'relatively'!) this week, but I couldn't believe they only had the four poultry options on the second - I kept looking for the fifth to make it harder, but it wasn't there!
But the best question for us was should come fourth when the first option was 'The Avenue', and the second 'St. Anne's' - as Channel Islanders if we hadn't got that one on either the first, or at the most second clue we'd be put on the first boat out! Was rather surprised it took them so long, and all the way to having to see St. Peter Port before getting close to the answer - and even then, they took their time getting to the fourth being St. Helier!
Funny (ok, maybe only to me) when there's such fierce inter-Bailiwick rivalry to see all four represented up there in one 'group' with a linking reason - there's not much linking going on in real life! But they 'whys' and 'wherefores' might be useful for future quizzing...
...even though we're not a part of the UK but a 'Crown Dependency', and the Monarch isn't 'King' or 'Queen' here, but the 'Duke of Normandy' (including The Queen!), during the English Civil War Jersey stayed loyal to Crown and Guernsey, Alderney and Sark sided with Oliver Cromwell. It's never gone away since then - even for the 2011 Royal Wedding, Jersey States announced a Bank Holiday immediately, but Guernsey refused to/debated the issue for ages because of that breach during the Civil War. (They backed down eventually, though!)
Anyway, as you were - apologies for butting in and then getting carried away.
Will be sorry when the series is over, though. We came to OC relatively late compared to many on here, so will have to seek out some of the earliest episodes to keep our brains sharp before the next one!”
“Been reading this thread for ages, but first post. We love OC - we're a bit of a strange family, two parents, two daughters (20 and 16) who love general knowledge quiz shows (although that's a bit of a down market description for OC!) and play 'competitive general knowledge rounds on Mastermind' among each other on Friday nights (often these days without 20 year old now she's at Uni!).
But we don't mind what it is - and we always say, it doesn't matter how/where you get your knowledge from, it's simply good to have a wide general knowledge and keep the old brain exercised. But OC has that little extra because it comes at things in a different way with the way the questions work and the answers that are needed - and it particular appeals to the girls, whose primary school used to give them 'non verbal reasoning' exercises for homework! So OC lets them hark back to those days and practise those skills - skills which (as a teacher) I know aren't practised universally across most schools by any means, but certainly very useful for OC!
We found the first wall relatively easy (emphasis on the word 'relatively'!) this week, but I couldn't believe they only had the four poultry options on the second - I kept looking for the fifth to make it harder, but it wasn't there!
But the best question for us was should come fourth when the first option was 'The Avenue', and the second 'St. Anne's' - as Channel Islanders if we hadn't got that one on either the first, or at the most second clue we'd be put on the first boat out! Was rather surprised it took them so long, and all the way to having to see St. Peter Port before getting close to the answer - and even then, they took their time getting to the fourth being St. Helier!
Funny (ok, maybe only to me
) when there's such fierce inter-Bailiwick rivalry to see all four represented up there in one 'group' with a linking reason - there's not much linking going on in real life! But they 'whys' and 'wherefores' might be useful for future quizzing... ...even though we're not a part of the UK but a 'Crown Dependency', and the Monarch isn't 'King' or 'Queen' here, but the 'Duke of Normandy' (including The Queen!), during the English Civil War Jersey stayed loyal to Crown and Guernsey, Alderney and Sark sided with Oliver Cromwell. It's never gone away since then - even for the 2011 Royal Wedding, Jersey States announced a Bank Holiday immediately, but Guernsey refused to/debated the issue for ages because of that breach during the Civil War. (They backed down eventually, though!)
Anyway, as you were - apologies for butting in and then getting carried away.
Will be sorry when the series is over, though. We came to OC relatively late compared to many on here, so will have to seek out some of the earliest episodes to keep our brains sharp before the next one!
”
Interesting post, jerseyporter, thanks. I got the St Helier thing, but only after the third clue.
(There's a poster called guernseysnail - hope you both get along OK!
).
Hmm..
David Mitchell has just been on the Jonathan Ross show and has more or less confirmed that he & Victoria are expecting a child. Which is obviously good news but it might put any future OC series off for a bit.
David Mitchell has just been on the Jonathan Ross show and has more or less confirmed that he & Victoria are expecting a child. Which is obviously good news but it might put any future OC series off for a bit.
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