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Only Connect (BBC4) [Part 2]
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Supratad
11-12-2013
Originally Posted by lundavra:
“They probably also have an entire wall of Lego but we don't expect questions about different Lego figures and shapes of bricks even if they are known to far more people.”

If there is not a workable connecting sequence in Lego bricks, then I'm a Dutchman
degsyhufc
11-12-2013
Originally Posted by elfcurry:
“Can we find out who suggested 'celebrity' version of an otherwise good quiz for bright people and make sure they never work in TV again?

I certainly don't want it dumbed down for the knuckle-draggers who'll watch something with celebrities on BBC2 but never bothered when it was clever nobodies on BBC4.”

The celeb editions of Only Connect have been charity specials so far.
snoweyowl
11-12-2013
I think davidbod has now left Only Connect. He worked on the current series but it was recorded long ago.

There was a post here about BBC4 looking for a new quiz format to replace Only Connect with some interesting titles. It wouldn't surprise me if he was associated with these.
degsyhufc
11-12-2013
Originally Posted by snoweyowl:
“I think davidbod has now left Only Connect. He worked on the current series but it was recorded long ago.

There was a post here about BBC4 looking for a new quiz format to replace Only Connect with some interesting titles. It wouldn't surprise me if he was associated with these.”

Apparently one is called 'The Knowledge' and they are looking for two more.
C Horse
12-12-2013
Originally Posted by jonbwfc:
“It's more commonly referred to as 'Settlers.'

Secondly, you'd be wasting your time as it's not a comic book. I'd suggest Toys'R'Us. The one near me has an entire wall of board games, which you'll probably be amazed to find aren't all variants of monopoly.”

This has to be one of my favourite responses to anything I've posted on any board. Its condescending nature is matched only by the fact that jon completely misses the point (which doe a deer and others didn't) which was that I'd be likely to find boardgamers in the comic book store.

I KNOW it's not a comic - I picked that up from watching the programme (I'm quite astute like that). It's some obscure game which very few have heard of (I picked that up from reading the board).

I'm also a grown up. That means that I don't go to Toys"R"Us for my own entertainment, and means further that I'm not aware of variants of monopoly, which I last played some time in the 1980s.

I AM aware, however of the fact that there are many board games ... but just not this one, and, back to the thread point, would suspect that the Oenophiles would be in the majority who don't know of its existence, let alone its content.

And I apologise for not knowing that is "Settlers" and not "Cattan", but I guess that's explained above.

Right ... now where IS my local comic book store? I'll look for a fat man with a pony tail!
Ladyxxmacbeth
12-12-2013
I was very annoyed the board gamers won. I thought that stupid VC was a bit hard on the other team and let the board gamers get away with being vague.
Ladyxxmacbeth
12-12-2013
Originally Posted by Supratad:
“If there is not a workable connecting sequence in Lego bricks, then I'm a Dutchman”

You could have 2x4, 2x3 2x2 lego figure. Or Indiana jones, pirates of carribean, batman, marvel heroes. All lego sets based on films in chronological order.
jonbwfc
12-12-2013
Originally Posted by C Horse:
“I'm also a grown up. That means that I don't go to Toys"R"Us for my own entertainment, and means further that I'm not aware of variants of monopoly, which I last played some time in the 1980s.”

So what you're saying is you're pontificating about a topic which you know little about, and what you do know is 30 years out of date?
macavity77
12-12-2013
Really enjoy this program and like playing the walls on the website. Does Victoria Coren have any clothes that fit her? She seems to be bursting out of them.
anotherlongers
12-12-2013
She's a feminist, despite wearing clothes 3 sizes too small for her and having the chebbage on display at all times (not that I'm complaining )
Rorschach
12-12-2013
Originally Posted by C Horse:
“I KNOW it's not a comic - I picked that up from watching the programme (I'm quite astute like that). It's some obscure game which very few have heard of”

To date around 20 million copies of Settlers of Catan (and it's off-shoots) have been sold. That's about the same number as copies of such albums as Madonna's True Blue, U2s The Joshua Tree or Prince's Purple Rain.

Would you be so irate if a question required you to have knowledge of these works which, according to your bench mark, are obscure albums which few have heard of?
Heston Veston
12-12-2013
Originally Posted by macavity77:
“Really enjoy this program and like playing the walls on the website. Does Victoria Coren have any clothes that fit her? She seems to be bursting out of them.”

Meow.

'Tis the curse of the petite curvaceous woman - anything not tight-fitting is going to make you look dumpy and/or frumpy (says the world's worst expert on women's fashions..)
Granny McSmith
12-12-2013
Originally Posted by Heston Veston:
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Meow.

'Tis the curse of the petite curvaceous woman - anything not tight-fitting is going to make you look dumpy and/or frumpy (says the world's worst expert on women's fashions..)”

Should the cat smilie have been used here?
JBO
12-12-2013
Originally Posted by Rorschach:
“To date around 20 million copies of Settlers of Catan (and it's off-shoots) have been sold.”


All bought by the same 12 people
Supratad
12-12-2013
Originally Posted by Ladyxxmacbeth:
“You could have 2x4, 2x3 2x2 lego figure. Or Indiana jones, pirates of carribean, batman, marvel heroes. All lego sets based on films in chronological order.”

Excellent work. I spent ages looking at the Lego website listing all the individual pieces, trying to find a good sequence that was ultimately, specifically Lego. I began to fear that I was indeed a Dutchman.

Originally Posted by anotherlongers:
“She's a feminist, despite wearing clothes 3 sizes too small for her and having the chebbage on display at all times (not that I'm complaining )”

I understand it is possible to be both a feminist and still attractive to men. The two are not mutually exclusive. The model Danielle Lloyd,( 23, from Liverpool,) has proved similar with racism.

Originally Posted by Ladyxxmacbeth:
“I was very annoyed the board gamers won. I thought that stupid VC was a bit hard on the other team and let the board gamers get away with being vague.”

Fnarr.
(Well that's my childish quota acheived today)
lundavra
12-12-2013
Originally Posted by Rorschach:
“To date around 20 million copies of Settlers of Catan (and it's off-shoots) have been sold. That's about the same number as copies of such albums as Madonna's True Blue, U2s The Joshua Tree or Prince's Purple Rain.

Would you be so irate if a question required you to have knowledge of these works which, according to your bench mark, are obscure albums which few have heard of?”

Huge numbers of Barbie dolls have been sold with many variations but I would not expect a question expecting the contestants to recognise the name of a particular variant.
atg
12-12-2013
Originally Posted by lundavra:
“Huge numbers of Barbie dolls have been sold with many variations but I would not expect a question expecting the contestants to recognise the name of a particular variant.”

Maybe my imagination, but I am sure that particular subject has actually cropped up. Or possibly Ken.
globbits
12-12-2013
Originally Posted by lundavra:
“Huge numbers of Barbie dolls have been sold with many variations but I would not expect a question expecting the contestants to recognise the name of a particular variant.”

Why ever not? OC has always catered for a wide area of knowledge, instead of sticking to a strict diet of obscure literary references, ancient Greek history, or other such nonsense.

I completely fail to see how a multi-million selling board game or many-multiples-of-millions selling toy would be somehow "invalid" territory for OC, but people should magically be aware of tax codes, or European fascist parties, or novels written from prison, or astronomy, or any of the other super-obscure questions we've had over the years? I'm also quite sure that a large number of OC fans wouldn't know one end of a Monty Python sketch from the other, but no one is complaining about that question.

Heck, if I was stupid / snobbish to think that OC should only use questions that I'd know the answer to, then they would have run out of sensible things to ask before the end of the first season.


Originally Posted by davidbod:
“The flowers one was a bit odd because VCM herself spotted that red flowers was a valid link between the clues rather than the 'falling petals' one I had intended. That was entirely my oversight. So beforehand we had to agree that we'd be pretty generous on that one as long as petals or flowers were mentioned.”

Sorry to be picky, but Japanese cherry blossom is pink not red, so I wouldn't have even dreamed about giving the board gamers that point...
Lizziebird28
13-12-2013
Originally Posted by blowup:
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First connecting wall this week or of the series? I can't remember that far back!”

The series. The "monkeys, typewriters, complete works of Shakespeare" approach in it's unalloyed form. Flailing hands, babble and nul points (I think).
davidbod
13-12-2013
Originally Posted by globbits:
“Sorry to be picky, but Japanese cherry blossom is pink not red, so I wouldn't have even dreamed about giving the board gamers that point...”

But, like Chinese New Year, it's celebrated around the world so it's still arguably a correct alternative answer.

As to the other query, we've done 'Careers that Barbie has tried' as a Missing Vowels category.
Supratad
13-12-2013
Originally Posted by davidbod:
“But, like Chinese New Year, it's celebrated around the world so it's still arguably a correct alternative answer.

As to the other query, we've done 'Careers that Barbie has tried' as a Missing Vowels category.”

I wasn't aware she even had a career, let alone many.
What made her keep changing? Was it the old clear plastic ceiling?
blowup
13-12-2013
Originally Posted by globbits:
“
Sorry to be picky, but Japanese cherry blossom is pink not red, so I wouldn't have even dreamed about giving the board gamers that point...”

You're not being picky, you are right. I hadn't even thought of that. Cherry blossom is pink. So much for Coren cleverly spotting an alternative connection and giving them the points.

Originally Posted by davidbod:
“But, like Chinese New Year, it's celebrated around the world so it's still arguably a correct alternative answer.

As to the other query, we've done 'Careers that Barbie has tried' as a Missing Vowels category.”

Huh? What's that got to do with Globbits pointing out that red flowers wasn't valid?
Rorschach
13-12-2013
Originally Posted by lundavra:
“Huge numbers of Barbie dolls have been sold with many variations but I would not expect a question expecting the contestants to recognise the name of a particular variant.”

Why not?

Presumably you were happy enough with such questions as:

* the winners of the RIBA Stirling Prize (an award cared about by few other than Architects)
* the exchange rate of silver to gold coins in World of Warcraft, Dungeons and Dragons and Harry Potter
* the most famous lines from the Dirty Harry films
* the number of MEPs Slovenia has (a fact I suspect most Slovenians don't know...or indeed care about)
* the official steps in rating the Health & Safety risk of load handling

All of which have turned up recently.



Exactly why should an extremely well know award-winning board game (well known among those that that play board games) be excluded but other minority interests be allowed?
Rorschach
13-12-2013
By the way I wouldn't suggest Toys R Us for board games like Settlers of Catan. You are much more likely to find it in a specialised game shop which are increasingly easy to find. In the past month two new ones have opened up within 15 miles of me, and there were already two within the same radius. Some sell board games and the likes of puzzles, some also sell miniatures for wargaming and some sell computer games too.

Also a number of Waterstones book shops now stock a wide range of such games.

(I also went to Barcelona recently and within a half hour walk of my hotel I happened to stumble upon such a shop...in fact it had a copy of Catan in the window).
globbits
13-12-2013
Originally Posted by davidbod:
“But, like Chinese New Year, it's celebrated around the world so it's still arguably a correct alternative answer.”

Thanks

Originally Posted by blowup:
“Huh? What's that got to do with Globbits pointing out that red flowers wasn't valid?”

I'm assuming (but haven't checked) that there are other varieties of cherry blossom found in other countries that are red, which would then be used if people celebrated Hanami in those countries. And that would sound like a reasonable justification to me if a contestant decided to argue the point during filming.

I still wouldn't have awarded the point myself though (in a heat maybe, but not a semi final), but that was davidbod's choice to make, not mine
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