Only Connect (BBC4) [Part 2]

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lundavra

05-01-2016

Originally Posted by Sarahsaurus:
“Don't know but you can buy a pack of four Only Connect badges on eBay for £3.69.

Not sure if they're "official merchandise" though.”

I suspect they just ran off a batch for all the people involved in that one programme.

Socha

05-01-2016

Originally Posted by Paul_DNAP:
“I see your point, but that's just a quiz equivalent of letting in 3 goals in injury time to throw away a 2 nil lead. Yes, you'll be "sick as a parrot" but it's perfectly fair for the opposition to put on a last minute surge to try and claw back their deficit and it does not negate the structure of the competition, because the leading team has equal opportunity and could easily have doubled their lead for a complete annihilation, but they didn't and ended up snatching a defeat from the jaws of victory. Gutted? yes. Unfair? no.”

Of course it's unfair. The show is about who's most clever. Not who can first spot Rihanna in a bunch of consonants.
It would mean that the show would dumb down in the run to the final as less clever but quicker buzzers would play each other.

johnny_t

05-01-2016

I really enjoyed last night's episode. Richard Aubrey and Joe Crowther are, far and away, my favourite characters this series.

And, without naming names, there's another contestant that puts me in mind of this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBQWulcrrUs

Supratad

05-01-2016

Originally Posted by Socha:
“Of course it's unfair. The show is about who's most clever. Not who can first spot Rihanna in a bunch of consonants.
It would mean that the show would dumb down in the run to the final as less clever but quicker buzzers would play each other.”

Its a good point, the UC tiebreaker is just a standard starter question but with dire consequences for an incorrect interruption. Possibly an OC tiebreaker could be a first round question revealed to each captain only, simultaneously ( not too difficult as its one person and no-conferring but with red herrings) and the same incorrect answer forfeit.

HarrisonMarks

05-01-2016

Originally Posted by BellaRosa:
“I could not believe she ate off the knife I didn't find it funny either but never been a fan of that family. That cake did look nice tho ”

The Coren family or the Mitchell family (or the Cake family)?
Anyway, cut her some slack, she's been pregnant for well over a year.

Heston Veston

05-01-2016

Originally Posted by BellaRosa:
“I could not believe she ate off the knife”

How absolutely ghastly for you.

degsyhufc

05-01-2016

Originally Posted by atg:
“No way was "In the beginning" a valid answer to that sequence. The full stop at the end of all the other clues should have been, well, a clue. By that logic any sequence of 14 letters from the bible would have to be accepted. And that was just after she didn't accept the rhenium answer without at least asking for another go. But then they didn't have to bother thinking up a Desmond Decker song either, the correct answer should be of the same form as the clues, a song by an alliterative artist.

However they should have been penalised for the pronunciation of Internazionale without pronouncing the final "e", as per Udinese. Or the "z" properly either.

And the singing and cake eating, are they jumping the shark?”

Have to agree but it doesn't look like anything is going to change even though the same points are brought up time and again.

Also notice she now has Script Writer credit to her name for the show. Simply being the host not enough? Obviously the show wouldn't be the same without her witty intros and outros.

degsyhufc

05-01-2016

Originally Posted by Sarahsaurus:
“I think the point being made was that the missing vowels round carries too much weight. it's too easy to make up a big deficit just by being quick on the buzzer a few times. Last night one team was five points ahead going into the last round, which is a pretty big lead, but they still lost because the other team were quicker on the buzzer. So all the hard work they put in earlier counted for nothing. I mean most of the connections and sequences in the first two rounds are pretty difficult and the teams usually only get them on the last one anyway, if they get them at all, so they're only getting one point for it - the same as they got in the final round for seeing that "R H NN" is Rihanna, which in my opinion was dead easy, it's just who's quicker on the buzzer who's going to get the point.

Obviously because it's a telly programme they put the quickfire round at the end to make it a bit more exciting (if Only Connect could ever be described as exciting, which is debatable).”

Originally Posted by KennyT:
“would it help if they had the missing vowels round first?

K”

Another problem is that it doesn't have a set time limit. That means that a team who is good at the round could rack up a shed load of points if they're using the round to pad out the show.

KennyT

05-01-2016

Originally Posted by degsyhufc:
“Another problem is that it doesn't have a set time limit. That means that a team who is good at the round could rack up a shed load of points if they're using the round to pad out the show.”

i think they've changed it to a minimum of 3 and a maximum of 4 "sets" now (from observation, someone else will confirm or otherwise). Anyway the only way to "pad out" the last round used to be to finish the wall quickly (or vice versa, i.e. to take up the full 2:30 even though they had the solution at their disposal after 1 min, to reduce the time for the final round if they didn't feel confident about scoring well on it).

K

degsyhufc

05-01-2016

Originally Posted by KennyT:
“i think they've changed it to a minimum of 3 and a maximum of 4 "sets" now (from observation, someone else will confirm or otherwise). Anyway the only way to "pad out" the last round used to be to finish the wall quickly (or vice versa, i.e. to take up the full 2:30 even though they had the solution at their disposal after 1 min, to reduce the time for the final round if they didn't feel confident about scoring well on it).

K”

The previous question editor confirmed the round time limit was based on how long it needed to suit the edit.

allafix

05-01-2016

Same for any TV quiz show with a final buzzer type round, it's not really a "problem". The missing vowels round is equally easy/difficult for both sides. You can only guarantee to rack up a lot of points in it if the other team is particularly slow, in which case they deserve to lose.

allafix

05-01-2016

Originally Posted by Supratad:
“Its a good point, the UC tiebreaker is just a standard starter question but with dire consequences for an incorrect interruption. Possibly an OC tiebreaker could be a first round question revealed to each captain only, simultaneously ( not too difficult as its one person and no-conferring but with red herrings) and the same incorrect answer forfeit.”

You would have to do that as an instant reveal of all four clues to both captains, and first to spot the correct connection wins. But what if it wasn't exactly the right connection but close? Too much resting on VC's judgement. For a tie break it needs to be quick and clear cut. One missing vowel question (with no clue) seems much fairer to me.

Jim_Ula

05-01-2016

Originally Posted by johnny_t:
“And, without naming names, there's another contestant that puts me in mind of this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBQWulcrrUs”

Surely not the loathsome Gerard Mackay

KennyT

05-01-2016

Originally Posted by degsyhufc:
“The previous question editor confirmed the round time limit was based on how long it needed to suit the edit.”

I know that's how it used to be, but I believe it's been changed since.

K

allafix

05-01-2016

Originally Posted by KennyT:
“I know that's how it used to be, but I believe it's been changed since.

K”

It's probably a bit of both, but since the time for preceding rounds tends to average out the same length a similar amount of time remains to be filled by the buzzer round each show. Hence your observation of a minimum of three and a maximum of four also fits the idea that the time varies according to the needs of the edit.

They can also adjust the timing with more or less of VC's chat to the teams before and between each round. Not to mention the community singing.

Sarahsaurus

06-01-2016

CH RY LCL
NCLRB RTS
NDNC YL
KM BRLYW LSH
SRH HRD NG

Connection? Dead easy.

The_Bonobo

06-01-2016

Originally Posted by Sarahsaurus:
“CH RY LCL
NCLRB RTS
NDNC YL
KM BRLYW LSH
SRH HRD NG

Connection? Dead easy.”

GR LSLD

So in the same vain...

NC KMS N
DV DGL MR
R CH RDW RG HT
RG RW TRS

Sarahsaurus

06-01-2016

Originally Posted by The_Bonobo:
“GR LSLD ”

Blimey, that was quick.

Try this one:

JDTH RWLL
L HNNP NNCK
PRRD WRDS
JSYN LSN

JamieHT

06-01-2016

Originally Posted by The_Bonobo:
“GR LSLD

So in the same vain...

NC KMS N
DV DGL MR
R CH RDW RG HT
RG RW TRS”

Spoiler

Originally Posted by Sarahsaurus:
“Blimey, that was quick.

Try this one:

JDTH RWLL
L HNNP NNCK
PRRD WRDS
JSYN LSN”

Spoiler

Put them in spoilers in case I'm not allowed to play.

Sarahsaurus

06-01-2016

Originally Posted by The_Bonobo:
“GR LSLD

So in the same vain...

NC KMS N
DV DGL MR
R CH RDW RG HT
RG RW TRS”

PNKF LYD.

Sarahsaurus

06-01-2016

Originally Posted by JamieHT:
“

Spoiler

Pink Floyd.

Spoiler

Little Mix.

Put them in spoilers in case I'm not allowed to play.”

Anyone can play, the more the merrier.

I don't know how you put stuff in spoilers.

We will get told off by the Only Connect people for turning their thread into a pop quiz.

Sarahsaurus

06-01-2016

Lzm Ccl Rnn
Jnn Yfr St
Nt Sh H Mltn

JamieHT

06-01-2016

Spoiler

Originally Posted by Sarahsaurus:
“Lzm Ccl Rnn
Jnn Yfr St
Nt Sh H Mltn”

Sarahsaurus

06-01-2016

Originally Posted by JamieHT:
“

Spoiler

Atomic Kitten.

”

That's pretty impressive. Maybe you're a big girlband fan like me.

Some of the names you can get by just googling them without the vowels, but most of them it doesn't work, for example JDT HRWLL doesn't produce anything meaningful if you Google it, but LZMCC LRNN does.

JamieHT

06-01-2016

Originally Posted by Sarahsaurus:
“That's pretty impressive. Maybe you're a big girlband fan like me.

Some of the names you can get by just googling them without the vowels, but most of them it doesn't work, for example JDT HRWLL doesn't produce anything meaningful if you Google it, but LZMCC LRNN does.”

I do know lots about girl bands, not a fan of all of them though.

I'll do one now.

FYT ZR
LSSC TTL
NW TKNS
LLT CHFR DVNS
CLRRC HRDS

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