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Only Connect (BBC4) [Part 2]
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Sarahsaurus
06-01-2016
Originally Posted by JamieHT:
“I do know lots about girl bands, not a fan of all of them though.

I'll do one now.

FYT ZR
LSSC TTL
NW TKNS
LLT CHFR DVNS
CLRRC HRDS”


STPS!
JamieHT
06-01-2016
Originally Posted by Sarahsaurus:
“STPS!”

Yay!!

Claire and Lee were annoying as their surnames are full of consonants.
iamian
06-01-2016
The missing vowels round does not fit with the theme (or indeed title) of the quiz show. It's a convenient filler which probably carries too much weight.

What's needed is a direct competition round, having say three 'connected' items displayed with points or penalty for getting or not getting the connection.

Incidentally, as for keeping viewers' interest, I'll still watch UC to the end even if Scumbag College is on -15 and Footlights on 275.
Paul_DNAP
06-01-2016
Originally Posted by Socha:
“Of course it's unfair. The show is about who's most clever. Not who can first spot Rihanna in a bunch of consonants.
It would mean that the show would dumb down in the run to the final as less clever but quicker buzzers would play each other.”

This is not a test of "who is most clever" it is purely a test of "who is best at this quiz" and as such being better on the buzzer in the final round is part of being better at the quiz and therefore it is fair that those who are better at the quiz win the match.

The final round has been part of the game since it started, both teams know the format well, and I expect them to plan their team to have strengths in all aspects of the quiz. Indeed, you could field a team where one player is useless at the connections in the first rounds, but is lightning fast on the buzzer for the missing vowels, it's a risk but a valid tactical decision as, as you've said, there are a lot of points on the board in the final round.
Sarahsaurus
06-01-2016
Originally Posted by JamieHT:
“Yay!!

Claire and Lee were annoying as their surnames are full of consonants.”

I found the quickest way to write them out is to write them out in full with all the vowels, then delete them, rather than trying to work out how to spell them without the vowels.
Supratad
06-01-2016
Originally Posted by Sarahsaurus:
“STPS!”

What comes 4th in this sequence?

5
6
7
...?
Sarahsaurus
06-01-2016
Originally Posted by Supratad:
“What comes 4th in this sequence?

5
6
7
...?”

Well presumably not eight. That would be a bit obvious.
grumpyscot
06-01-2016
Originally Posted by Sarahsaurus:
“Well presumably not eight. That would be a bit obvious.”

Corrrect - the answer is 9.

Because its the postal numbers of a street in Harwich, where the plot that should have been 8 was forgotten about when the house numbers were allocated, and they issued 9 instead.
Yo Omars Comin
06-01-2016
But "8" does follow the sequence so it would have to be accepted as an answer.
The_Bonobo
06-01-2016
Originally Posted by Sarahsaurus:
“That's pretty impressive. Maybe you're a big girlband fan like me.

Some of the names you can get by just googling them without the vowels, but most of them it doesn't work, for example JDT HRWLL doesn't produce anything meaningful if you Google it, but LZMCC LRNN does.”

I just googled both but did not get either name come up. Does it not depend on what you have googled before?

As for the issue of the missing vowels round sometimes turning the game around, is that not the point? Yes it can make the arguably more difficult early rounds seem relatively less important, and is largely about being quick on the buzzer, but it is about making the end of the show more interesting. OC is hardly the most dynamic of quizzes so this element adds a more dynamic ending. Personally I feel the issues around what gets accepted, or not, in earlier rounds is a bigger deal. Not that any of it matters anyway. I think most contestants know that the show is deliberately obtuse at times.
Sarahsaurus
06-01-2016
Originally Posted by The_Bonobo:
“I just googled both but did not get either name come up. Does it not depend on what you have googled before?.”

It might, I have googled liz mcclarnon before.
The_Bonobo
06-01-2016
Originally Posted by Supratad:
“What comes 4th in this sequence?

5
6
7
...?”

How about 15? Convert the following number to text and count the amount of letters, then take it away from the earlier number (as a number). So 6 has 3 letters, take it away from 5, it makes "2". Then 5 letters in 7 from 6 is "1". So the last number is the first to have 7 letters so that it makes zero. That would be 15. You can't get it on the first clue but that is sometimes the case. Confused?

What is the next in this sequence...?

GR GL ZNBY
T MTH YD LTN
PR CBRS NN
???
Yo Omars Comin
06-01-2016
Dnl Crg
Sarahsaurus
06-01-2016
Originally Posted by The_Bonobo:
“How about 15? Convert the following number to text and count the amount of letters, then take it away from the earlier number (as a number). So 6 has 3 letters, take it away from 5, it makes "2". Then 5 letters in 7 from 6 is "1". So the last number is the first to have 7 letters so that it makes zero. That would be 15. You can't get it on the first clue but that is sometimes the case. Confused?

What is the next in this sequence...?

GR GL ZNBY
T MTH YD LTN
PR CBRS NN
???”

DNLC RG.
Sarahsaurus
06-01-2016
Crgr Vlh Rwd
Dr Cybs Sll
Lng Dmn
?
The_Bonobo
06-01-2016
Originally Posted by Sarahsaurus:
“Crgr Vlh Rwd
Dr Cybs Sll
Lng Dmn
?”

BR NTNL

This next one is related to your one but no googling...

JYM CG NSS
CRL NF LCK
BB YCL NCY
???
Sarahsaurus
06-01-2016
Originally Posted by The_Bonobo:
“BR NTNL

This next one is related to your one but no googling...

JYM CG NSS
CRL NF LCK
BB YCL NCY
???”

LS SMTH but KMBRLY WLSH was robbed!
cedricthedog
06-01-2016
Originally Posted by Sarahsaurus:
“I found the quickest way to write them out is to write them out in full with all the vowels, then delete them, rather than trying to work out how to spell them without the vowels.”

Sad that I am, I made a fairly simple Excel spreadsheet, which does the job for me (enter name/phrase, then it puts it all in upper case, strips the vowels out, and adds random spaces! )
JamieHT
06-01-2016
Originally Posted by cedricthedog:
“Sad that I am, I made a fairly simple Excel spreadsheet, which does the job for me (enter name/phrase, then it puts it all in upper case, strips the vowels out, and adds random spaces! )”

That is very clever. I'm quite good with Excel but there's no way I'd know how to do that.
cedricthedog
06-01-2016
Originally Posted by JamieHT:
“That is very clever. I'm quite good with Excel but there's no way I'd know how to do that.”

It's not amazing - I'd like it to do the random spaces better - but it's a nice bit of fun and I do enjoy creating stuff with Excel!
SimonK01
06-01-2016
If anyone's still wondering about the relative importance of the missing vowels round - you're not the first people to do so. Michael Wallace, one of the winners of series 8 (and also a postdoctoral lecturer in statistics) looked at this ages ago, when there'd been 99 shows rather than the present 200. He concluded that across the first seven series it was no more important than any other round, and that only once in every seven shows would a team who were behind after round 3 go on to win.
The_Bonobo
06-01-2016
Originally Posted by SimonK01:
“If anyone's still wondering about the relative importance of the missing vowels round - you're not the first people to do so. Michael Wallace, one of the winners of series 8 (and also a postdoctoral lecturer in statistics) looked at this ages ago, when there'd been 99 shows rather than the present 200. He concluded that across the first seven series it was no more important than any other round, and that only once in every seven shows would a team who were behind after round 3 go on to win.”

Interesting stuff and it does lay some of the complaints to bed. It also seems likely that since it was written the final round is still not normally crucial. Also it was notable that the team in the lead also tend to do better in the final round anyway.

Perhaps what is not acknowledged, however, is possibility as opposed to actuality. It is possible that a team could know every answer in the last round but end up with nothing, or losing ground by 12+ points. All because of speed on the buzzer (which I presume some think should not be so potentially influential, on OC anyway). In the other rounds if a team knew every answer they would not end up with no points or losing so much ground. So it may be that it doesn't often result in big swings, or that the final round doesn't give that many more points, but it could. Personally I have no problem with the final round, incidentally, but I think this is the issue for some others rather than necessarily that it has often actually reversed the lead.
Supratad
06-01-2016
Originally Posted by Yo Omars Comin:
“But "8" does follow the sequence so it would have to be accepted as an answer.”

Yes, yes it would, because it IS the right answer.
People have often been accused of taking things too seriously in this thread, and here was a prime example.

I quoted the previous answer and topic of Steps. Their debut hit was called 5,6,7,8, it was a very simple, deliberately low-brow question about a fluffy, pop band.
Paul_DNAP
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by Supratad:
“Yes, yes it would, because it IS the right answer.
People have often been accused of taking things too seriously in this thread, and here was a prime example.

I quoted the previous answer and topic of Steps. Their debut hit was called 5,6,7,8, it was a very simple, deliberately low-brow question about a fluffy, pop band.”

You do realise that with the current trend, there's a danger VCM will make you sing it !!

All together now "My boot scootin' baby is drivin' me crazy.....etc.
SimonK01
07-01-2016
Looks like you'll all have to put up with even more singing and cake eating from now on - Only Connect has been recommissioned for the next two series and it's going to be 37 episodes a year. God knows what kind of convoluted format it'll need to be to end up at that number.
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