I think Victoria was keen to have Albert designated a 'King', but was told where to get off.

In times past, the husband of a queen at least got the royal house renamed for him, but even that went by the board some years back.

Was Philip officially "King" of England? I thought he was King Philip because he was King of Spain. I'm not sure if any other spouse of a monarch has been King or Queen of another country before their marriage.

Maybe I'm wrong on this. I'd be delighted if anyone can tell me.

I'd be delighted if anybody who's, ahem, old enough to remember could confirm what Elizabeth I was known as in, say, school history books prior to our present Queen coming on the scene - ie. "Elizabeth I" or simply "Elizabeth". That's what would nail this down.

She would have been Elizabeth, just as Victoria is always referred to without a number.

Sorry, I'm not quite old enough. I was only 4 at the time of the coronation, and I didn't take much notice of the way monarchs were numbered.

Well, that's what I thought, which was why I was saying the question seemed poorly written. Anyway, it doesn't really matter in the scheme of things, it's not the first and it won't be the last time a question is pulled apart anally on this thread!

Part of the fun!

All that matters is that people know what was meant even if not strictly accurate. They do seem have thought of possible confusion over meaning but if it does not affect the result they do not worry too much. Just about every quiz programme has many questions which can be considered ambiguous or even wrong if analysed in detail.

I suspect it's probably impossible to create a TV quiz show that has zero ambiguity but still manages to be interesting to watch.

Basically could just replace this entire thread with this comment.

That was the first one I managed to get on that wall. I think it was Identity and Hunting that made it click, as Ryan and Eleven could have been countless other things.

True, same as Qi. If you have any personal knowledge of a subject you usually see lots of ambiguities and errors.

But that's less of a quiz and more a vehicle for the researchers' and Stephen Fry's smugness.

Apart from the ones that have proper questions with real answers, like mastermind, uc, fifteen to one etc etc, even countdown.

It is defined in the Act for the Marriage of Queen Mary to Philip of Spain:

... the said most noble prince Philip shall during the said marriage have and enjoy jointly together with the said most gracious queen his wife, the style, honour and kingly name

William and Mary were joint sovereigns.

I suspect if you look back in TV history you'll find disputed answers in all of those shows. Countdown is probably the only one because that has a 'set text' to work to - if it's not in Suzie's dictionary it doesn't count. if you rigidly define the set of possible answers you can reduce ambiguity that way but that won't work in a show like OC.

So he was King of England as well, as was William of Orange. Thanks for that.

Though she is never referred to as Queen Mary II, which she was.

*that's one person not rooting for me later on this series then

Having said that, I've been watching episode 12:1 and in two rounds found a connection that both teams had missed.


Perhaps not quite so impossible then. You just need to watch some episodes to get the hang of it.

Very much this. And there are, I suppose you could say, fashions in questions, which you might notice over a series. A couple of years ago, for example, there seemed to be a Round 2 question almost every week from a film - ways that Spinal Tap drummers died, things the Romans did for us, historical figures collected by Bill & Ted, etc. Those still turn up from time to time but never as often as that one series. A couple of years before that it seemed to be maths sequences showing up a lot.

Like crosswords, if you do one particularly one regularly then you might start only solving the odd clue but as you get used to it you start to solve more clues.

This morning's Tweet from VCM!

That Hawaii one was so a complete guess based on Obama being on the list.

Tom Cappleman's face is familiar-trying to think what programme he has been on before.