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Only Connect (BBC4) [Part 2]
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Loz_Fraggle
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by stewartb:
“That wasn't the connection. The connection was that they were the first at the top level in their sport to announce to the general public that they are gay (or something to that effect)

And yes, firsts like that are notable, as they start to break down another barrier so that others who fear persecution or ridicule or prejudice for something that has no effect on their ability to do their job can be themselves, instead of having to pretend they're something they're not. After a few more have followed suit, nobody much will care any more - apart from a small minority of bigots who will never be convinced anyway.”

But they weren't the first, certainly not in the case of Hirst and Hitzlsperger, Ian Roberts in the NRL came out years previously, and I would have thought Justin Fashanu would have been the first in football.
atg
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by Ex Pat:
“They got the final name correct which is all that matters.”

Apparently not after last week. You can make up your own sequence now.
atg
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by Loz_Fraggle:
“But they weren't the first, certainly not in the case of Hirst and Hitzlsperger, Ian Roberts in the NRL came out years previously, and I would have thought Justin Fashanu would have been the first in football.”

Not while he was still playing.
davads
23-08-2016
In the "Mels" question last night did anybody else think, when just Carl Reiner and Griff Rhys Jones came up, of the old Holsten Pils movie spoof TV commercials (Carl Reiner having directed the film Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid which they were based on, and GRJ obviously having featured in them)?

I assume this was simply a coincidence as opposed to a deliberate trip-up, since I guess they wouldn't use a brand name so overtly, plus it's more the wall rounds that have red herrings. It amused me, anyway
Clem Fandango
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by atg:
“Not while he was still playing.”

Hitzlsperger had also retired before he came out as gay
Janet43
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by davads:
“In the "Mels" question last night did anybody else think, when just Carl Reiner and Griff Rhys Jones came up, of the old Holsten Pils movie spoof TV commercials (Carl Reiner having directed the film Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid which they were based on, and GRJ obviously having featured in them)?

I assume this was simply a coincidence as opposed to a deliberate trip-up, since I guess they wouldn't use a brand name so overtly, plus it's more the wall rounds that have red herrings. It amused me, anyway ”

Well that's you shot - it's "on which they were based".
davads
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by Janet43:
“Well that's you shot - it's "on which they were based".”

I wasn't a contestant.
harrypalmer
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by ATNotts:
“So, I really, like, can't stand people who, like, use so, to start any, like sentence, you know!

My other gripe, in case you hadn't noticed, is the ridiculous over use of the word "like" where what they are talking about isn't like anything!! Why are English speakers so scared of a fraction of a second silence while they collect their thoughts, instead of filling it with pointless sounds, such as like or so, or you know.”

There's a much more annoying habit that has crept into the media (mostly newspapers, but increasingly telly) and it is people referring to the people of Britain as "us Brits".

It's not just annoying, it's wrong. Try it with something other than 'Brits' and it reveals itself as ungrammatical nonsense: 'Us Scots', 'Us Germans', Us dog-lovers' etc.

It's "WE BRITS"...and even then who the hell says 'Brits' apart from bloody Americans?
Spasm
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by harrypalmer:
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It's "WE BRITS"...and even then who the hell says 'Brits' apart from bloody Americans?”

The Republicans in Northern Ireland during the " Troubles ", it's where I first heard the term.
JeffG1
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by Janet43:
“Well that's you shot - it's "on which they were based".”

Originally Posted by davads:
“I wasn't a contestant.”

I think Janet was referring to the clip in post #4247
davestoke
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by Spasm:
“Got the WW1 name changing thing after Alsatian came up.

I wonder if that's when Rubella became the preferred name rather than German Measles.”

No. Rubella is the "new" name. If you go back to the 1960s, nobody had Rubella, it was very much German measles. Possibly because it's a "bad" thing, so the German context would have been apt?
Ex Pat
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by davestoke:
“No. Rubella is the "new" name. If you go back to the 1960s, nobody had Rubella, it was very much German measles. Possibly because it's a "bad" thing, so the German context would have been apt?”

Makes me wonder why they renamed Sauerkraut then
atg
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by Ex Pat:
“Makes me wonder why they renamed Sauerkraut then ”

I didn't know they had.
Ex Pat
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by atg:
“I didn't know they had.”

Did you even watch the program in question?
Supratad
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by Janet43:
“Well that's you shot - it's "on which they were based".”

Yes, that's all well and good but can you describe the South Sea Bubble and it's effects on investment?
atg
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Ex Pat:
“Did you even watch the program in question?”

Sauerkraut?
lundavra
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by davestoke:
“No. Rubella is the "new" name. If you go back to the 1960s, nobody had Rubella, it was very much German measles. Possibly because it's a "bad" thing, so the German context would have been apt?”

New?

OED

Quote:
“1866 H. Veale in Edinb. Med. Jrnl. (1867) 12 i. 414, I therefore venture to propose Rubella as a substitute for Rötheln, or, at any rate, as a name for the disease which it has been my object in this paper to describe.”

Heston Veston
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Spasm:
“Got the WW1 name changing thing after Alsatian came up.

I wonder if that's when Rubella became the preferred name rather than German Measles.”

I might have got that one if they'd included Empire Biscuits (= German Biscuits).
JeffG1
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Supratad:
“Yes, that's all well and good but can you describe the South Sea Bubble and it's effects on investment?”

Oh dear, another shooting offence!
Willpurry
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by davestoke:
“No. Rubella is the "new" name. If you go back to the 1960s, nobody had Rubella, it was very much German measles. Possibly because it's a "bad" thing, so the German context would have been apt?”


Corruption of "germane". Like measles in other words.
DeanDS
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by davads:
“Mine was Gordon Jackson ”

That was mine too!
gopher_uk1
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Supratad:
“Yes, that's all well and good but can you describe the South Sea Bubble and it's effects on investment?”

Outstanding Not the Nine O'Clock News reference.
grimtales1
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by gopher_uk1:
“Outstanding Not the Nine O'Clock News reference.”

I just noticed that!
Marroo
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by gopher_uk1:
“Outstanding Not the Nine O'Clock News reference.”

Odd name for a goldfish , wasn't it ?
Spasm
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by gopher_uk1:
“Outstanding Not the Nine O'Clock News reference.”

For those who don't have memories, explain ?
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