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Only Connect (BBC4) [Part 2]
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davads
20-09-2016
Originally Posted by Heston Veston:
“It's hardly a spoiler; the Craig films are, despite the presence of Judi Dench, in a different universe to anything that went before, although they can be seen as as a series of "James Bond: Origins" in some ways - Blofeld acquiring his scar, for example.”

Spoiler
Just being kind to those who haven't seen it - there's got to still be the odd person - and didn't even know the main bad guy is ESB...
Paul_DNAP
20-09-2016
Originally Posted by davads:
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Spoiler
Just being kind to those who haven't seen it - there's got to still be the odd person - and didn't even know the main bad guy is Brian Blessed...
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Yes, but it is likely to be safe to assume that anyone who cares enough about that fact will have found out by watching the film by now, and also that anyone who hasn't watched the film by now probably doesn't care enough to be worried by a little spoiler.

Even if there was that one guy, the massive bond fan who is trying to avoid spoilers for a film that's nearly a year old because he's waiting for it to come on ITV the Christmas after next so he can see it edited for content and butchered with adverts, then that's a risk he's talking upon himself.
ferg
20-09-2016
I don't understand the obsession here with players starting an answer with 'so', sometimes there's a definitive answer. Sometimes a longer explanation is required, if you give a short answer in that instance you're often asked to 'tell me more'. To which 'so' is a natural reponse?

They don't have a succinct answer and they're pre-empting the question otherwise they're going to look overconfident or robotic instead.
davads
20-09-2016
Originally Posted by ferg:
“I don't understand the obsession here with players starting an answer with 'so', sometimes there's a definitive answer. Sometimes a longer explanation is required, if you give a short answer in that instance you're often asked to 'tell me more'. To which 'so' is a natural reponse?

They don't have a succinct answer and they're pre-empting the question otherwise they're going to look overconfident or robotic instead.”

I guess the irritation is that it seems redundant to say "so", which is normally the precursor to saying why you are doing/saying something, eg. "It was raining, so I came indoors." Rather than being the very start of a "thought", like the sort of thing common to Pointless "What do you do?" - "So, I'm in my second year at Southampton...", which is just a non-sequitur.

If you think of it as being used in the same sense as the German "also" or the French "alors", it makes more sense.
Lenitive
20-09-2016
Originally Posted by ferg:
“I don't understand the obsession here with players starting an answer with 'so', sometimes there's a definitive answer. Sometimes a longer explanation is required, if you give a short answer in that instance you're often asked to 'tell me more'. To which 'so' is a natural reponse?

They don't have a succinct answer and they're pre-empting the question otherwise they're going to look overconfident or robotic instead.”

Can't say I've noticed the So-ing.
JeffG1
20-09-2016
Originally Posted by Lenitive:
“Can't say I've noticed the So-ing.”

So it doesn't bother you? (See what I did there?).

Anyway, the use of 'so' as an introducer out of context has been discussed at length all over these forums - it raises hackles nearly as much as 'haitch'.
Supratad
20-09-2016
Originally Posted by JeffG1:
“So it doesn't bother you? (See what I did there?).

Anyway, the use of 'so' as an introducer out of context has been discussed at length all over these forums - it raises hackles nearly as much as 'haitch'.”

It really irritates myself.
DSman
20-09-2016
It's as if they are saying "So.." because it's an alternative to "Well.." which usually it isn't.
ferg
20-09-2016
I understand it's not proper English but if you're in a pressured situation and you're asked to explain your reasoning what's the correct way to start the sentence?

If you simply start linking the clues 'C means this and D means that which means A and B must also mean...' you're going to sound blunt unless you start with some kind of catch-all opener.
Lenitive
20-09-2016
Originally Posted by JeffG1:
“So it doesn't bother you? (See what I did there?).

Anyway, the use of 'so' as an introducer out of context has been discussed at length all over these forums - it raises hackles nearly as much as 'haitch'.”

So I see what you did there, and I found it so-so.

And I don't hate ("hate-ch"?) haitch either, it adds some variance to the delightful English language.
Daisy_Duke
20-09-2016
Missed last night's. Will catch up later.
davads
20-09-2016
Originally Posted by ferg:
“I understand it's not proper English but if you're in a pressured situation and you're asked to explain your reasoning what's the correct way to start the sentence?

If you simply start linking the clues 'C means this and D means that which means A and B must also mean...' you're going to sound blunt unless you start with some kind of catch-all opener.”

Then, as above, say "Well..." Or "OK..."
Last edited by davads : 20-09-2016 at 17:23
johnny_t
20-09-2016
Just watching it now.

Victoria: Do you know the story about David Aaronovitch on University Challenge ?

Both teams: Yes

Tells story anyway....



It's like watching me at a dinner party
Granny McSmith
21-09-2016
Originally Posted by johnny_t:
“Just watching it now.

Victoria: Do you know the story about David Aaronovitch on University Challenge ?

Both teams: Yes

Tells story anyway....



It's like watching me at a dinner party ”

Er...she has a wider audience that the two teams.

I didn't know the story, and it was interesting only because I didn't think David Aaronovitch could go lower in my estimation, but after hearing that story, he has.
jonbwfc
21-09-2016
Originally Posted by Granny McSmith:
“Er...she has a wider audience that the two teams.

I didn't know the story, and it was interesting only because I didn't think David Aaronovitch could go lower in my estimation, but after hearing that story, he has.”

She missed off the end, where Manchester were then banned from University Challenge for about 15 years afterwards... bears a grudge does Bamber...
lundavra
21-09-2016
Originally Posted by johnny_t:
“Just watching it now.

Victoria: Do you know the story about David Aaronovitch on University Challenge ?

Both teams: Yes

Tells story anyway....

It's like watching me at a dinner party ”

I can't remember but did all six team members say yes? I thought just a couple of people either said yes or nodded.
codeblue
21-09-2016
Super easy questions this week.

Several 5 point answers and mostly 3 points on the others.

The wall rounds were easy too!
Supratad
21-09-2016
I wish they'd bring back the online wall games.
Lecate
21-09-2016
Originally Posted by davads:
“Then, as above, say "Well..." Or "OK..."”

Why does 'so' irritate you but 'well' or 'OK' don't? They are all equally meaningless words in that context.
Boz_Lowdownl
21-09-2016
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“Super easy questions this week.

Several 5 point answers and mostly 3 points on the others.

The wall rounds were easy too!”

Have you been on the show? Were you part of the champion team? If not you should apply, you'd walk it. (Probably wouldn't need any team mates either.)
codeblue
21-09-2016
Originally Posted by Boz_Lowdownl:
“Have you been on the show? Were you part of the champion team? If not you should apply, you'd walk it. (Probably wouldn't need any team mates either.)”

On most occasions I have found that I do beat a teams score on my own. But I guess it is different watching it at home than the pressure of the studio.

I'm also more inclined to make a best guess at 5 or 3 points, rather than just pick up scrappy single points. It is by far the best tactic but so few teams game the system like this.

You have the chance at getting 5 points, but even if you are wrong, the most the opponents can pick up as a bonus is 1 point.

This week, say, it was pretty obvious the 4th answer in sequences would be Crete. You have 90% chance of getting 5 points, and even if you are wrong, the penalty max is 1 pt to the opposition.

Even then, with the low standard of the contestants sometimes they fail to pick up even 1 pt having seen all of the connections.
anotherlongers
21-09-2016
I always get 5 pointers too, every question of every week. And I'm only eleven.
beemoh
21-09-2016
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“On most occasions I have found that I do beat a teams score on my own. But I guess it is different watching it at home than the pressure of the studio.”

And you get to play twice as many questions (ish).
Aetius_Maralas
21-09-2016
Originally Posted by JeffG1:
“Screw you. I am entitled to my opinion.”

So is everyone else, especially if the opinion is saying you're wrong.
xendesktop
21-09-2016
I think the format could do with a tweak, with the wall round being in between the first two connection rounds. Would break it up a little bit.
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