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Old 16-10-2013, 01:02
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Americans tend to use that version. The traditional English education system way of saying it is to use the -x-. This is because it's felt slightly spurious to try to attempt a cod Spanish accent, in the same way that you wouldn't pronounce the French capital as "Par-ee".
... unless we're talking about the football team Paris St. Germain when we do go all cod French!
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Old 16-10-2013, 04:25
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I thought her going on about Joplin being so far away from the answer was unfair because I didn't know the ONJ represented the UK.
I've only known her as an Aussie and didn't know she was born in the UK, so that would have thrown me off.
Random bit of pointless trivia - she still could have represented the UK in Eurovision, even if she was 100% Aussie, there's no nationality requirement in the contest at all.

For example, Jon Lilygreen represented Cyprus in 2010 (despite being Welsh), we've had Gina G in 96 (Australian) and Katrina in 97 (American, and won for us!), and don't forget the famous example of Celine Dion winning for Switzerland in 88. Hmmm, maybe there's a OC question hiding in there somewhere...
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Old 16-10-2013, 08:53
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Random bit of pointless trivia - she still could have represented the UK in Eurovision, even if she was 100% Aussie, there's no nationality requirement in the contest at all.
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Olivia Newton-John was born in England with Welsh father and German mother so ideal Eurovision Song Contest background! Coming Home, the Welsh equivalent of Who Do You Think You Are, did a good programme on her Welsh ancestry.
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Old 16-10-2013, 08:56
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I must admit that I'd never even heard of Prima Donna, but with ONJ and Mary Hopkin in the list, the connection was likely to have something to do with Middle of the Road music. Janis Joplin was spectacularly far away from the answer as, even if she had been eligible to represent the UK, I very much doubt she'd have been picked!

The one comment I did think was unfair was the one about the misnamed colours when VC-M said she couldn't accept their answer "partly because there's already been a mistake in your gloss of the answers", referring to the fact they thought the first picture was a black rhino instead of a white rhino.The simple fact is that both types of rhinos are misnamed, so it didn't really matter which one they thought it was.
From what I remembered they recognised that a colour featured in each clue but not the significant detail that the colour was not the colour of the item as with the Green Card not being green.
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Old 16-10-2013, 09:45
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Olivia Newton-John was born in England with Welsh father and German mother so ideal Eurovision Song Contest background! Coming Home, the Welsh equivalent of Who Do You Think You Are, did a good programme on her Welsh ancestry.
I knew she was born in the UK and moved to Australia when she was young, I didn't know that she had Welsh + German ancestry, thanks.

Although by that token, could I have included both Cliff Richard and Engelbert Humperdinck in my list as they were both born in India?
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Old 16-10-2013, 10:30
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in the same way that you wouldn't pronounce the French capital as "Par-ee".
Ha! Bad example. This is one of my pet semi-pedantic arguments. Many cities have different localised versions of their names.

The English Paris (-is) and the French Paris (-ee) are different words which just happen to have the same spelling. The Italian version is Parigi and the Dutch, Parijs, and all are pronounced as you would expect.

You wouldn't pronounce Cologne as Köln, either. And you can take your pick with Aachen/Aken/Aix la Chapelle as there isn't an English version.

(Oh and coughthecat is right about Paris St Germain, except it's not cod French, just that it's the French version of Paris here. )
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Old 16-10-2013, 11:16
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From what I remembered they recognised that a colour featured in each clue but not the significant detail that the colour was not the colour of the item as with the Green Card not being green.
Oh yes, their answer was incorrect because it was too vague and didn't include the key feature that the colour in the name didn't relate to the object, but VC-M's comment that she couldn't accept the answer partly because they'd misidentified the rhino was also wrong for the reasons previously stated.

I am, however, being somewhat pedantic as the team didn't deserve the points anyway!

I couldn't believe the "holes" question! After two clues I was looking for some obscure connection because I thought the number of holes must have been a red herring! I was actually thinking along the lines of famous British sporting personalities ... Jenson Button, Alan Ball etc! To be fair though, both teams had the same opportunity to pick that question so it didn't favour one particular team.
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Old 16-10-2013, 14:25
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I knew she was born in the UK and moved to Australia when she was young, I didn't know that she had Welsh + German ancestry, thanks.

Although by that token, could I have included both Cliff Richard and Engelbert Humperdinck in my list as they were both born in India?
That is going by Wonkypedia! But I know from Coming Home that her father was Welsh so that is definitely correct - it was a great little programme, she had her sister with her and they were very funny together.
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Old 16-10-2013, 14:27
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Ha! Bad example. This is one of my pet semi-pedantic arguments. Many cities have different localised versions of their names.

The English Paris (-is) and the French Paris (-ee) are different words which just happen to have the same spelling. The Italian version is Parigi and the Dutch, Parijs, and all are pronounced as you would expect.

You wouldn't pronounce Cologne as Köln, either. And you can take your pick with Aachen/Aken/Aix la Chapelle as there isn't an English version.

(Oh and coughthecat is right about Paris St Germain, except it's not cod French, just that it's the French version of Paris here. )
How often do you hear someone pronounce Gothenburg correctly, perhaps only Ken Bruce! But it is not a 'different word' just incorrect pronunciation in this country.
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Old 16-10-2013, 14:30
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....... I couldn't believe the "holes" question! After two clues I was looking for some obscure connection because I thought the number of holes must have been a red herring! I was actually thinking along the lines of famous British sporting personalities ... Jenson Button, Alan Ball etc! To be fair though, both teams had the same opportunity to pick that question so it didn't favour one particular team.
I suspect they could occasionally put in an obvious easy one because people will just not believe that is the right answer and so waste time trying to find an alternative
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Old 16-10-2013, 17:36
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I thought her going on about Joplin being so far away from the answer was unfair because I didn't know the ONJ represented the UK.
Probably also didn't know that Celine Dion once represented Switzerland then
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Old 16-10-2013, 19:05
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Probably also didn't know that Celine Dion once represented Switzerland then
Actually I did.
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Old 16-10-2013, 23:48
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Probably also didn't know that Celine Dion once represented Switzerland then
That was a question on some other quiz show, the name of which I cannot remember. I shouted out "Canada!"
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Old 17-10-2013, 10:53
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What, you represented Switzerland?
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Old 17-10-2013, 14:22
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Just watching it now, and already got two 5-pointer (Sine Waves and the Cuts), so maybe there is some mileage in the idea it's getting a bit easier.

Anyhoo....This is twice I've heard Victoria pronounce Quixote like 'Quick Soat' rather than 'Key-O-Tea'. Is she right and I've always been wrong ?

EDIT: And I got 5 Points on the OFSTED ranks as well...
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Old 17-10-2013, 14:39
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Anyhoo....This is twice I've heard Victoria pronounce Quixote like 'Quick Soat' rather than 'Key-O-Tea'. Is she right and I've always been wrong ?
I've always pronounced it "key-o-tea". In fact, my uncle had a donkey called "Oaty", which is a joke that only works if you're of a certain pronunciation.
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Old 17-10-2013, 14:47
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This is twice I've heard Victoria pronounce Quixote like 'Quick Soat' rather than 'Key-O-Tea'. Is she right and I've always been wrong ?
Don't look for logic when it's the English language we're talking about!

I've always said "Key-ho-tay" but I still pronounce the adjective "Quicks-otic"!

Figure that one out if you can!
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Old 17-10-2013, 16:11
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Saying Don Quick-soat is like the Vengaboys singing they were going to E-bit-sa rather than I-bee-tha (Ibiza)
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Old 17-10-2013, 17:01
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Saying Don Quick-soat is like the Vengaboys singing they were going to E-bit-sa rather than I-bee-tha (Ibiza)
Not really, because the Spanish -z- has different pronunciations depending on where you're from. This explains why there's so many 'right' ways of saying chorizo.
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Old 17-10-2013, 17:54
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Not really, because the Spanish -z- has different pronunciations depending on where you're from. This explains why there's so many 'right' ways of saying chorizo.
Only a thread about Only Connect could use the Vengaboys and Chorizo in the same discussion.
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Old 17-10-2013, 18:20
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Already half way to a round one question. The connection would be "Topics on the Only Connect Digital Spy thread".

Bit random but some might know
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Old 18-10-2013, 14:49
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Cue your tutting and "there goes the neighbourhood"-type posts, it's moving to BBC2 next year:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...t-bbc-two.html
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Old 18-10-2013, 15:14
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Cue your tutting and "there goes the neighbourhood"-type posts, it's moving to BBC2 next year:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...t-bbc-two.html
I wondered if that might be happening when they showed the week of specials on BBC2, testing the water I would think.
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Old 18-10-2013, 15:24
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I thought the Die Hard question was a bit unfair since those movies have varying titles , Die Hard 2 for instance is also known as Die Hard 2 Die Harder , and the 4th one is also called Live Free or Die Hard .
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Old 18-10-2013, 15:53
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I thought the Die Hard question was a bit unfair since those movies have varying titles , Die Hard 2 for instance is also known as Die Hard 2 Die Harder , and the 4th one is also called Live Free or Die Hard .
Each fillm only has one official release titles, but do have a few "also knows as"s. The titles are:

Die Hard
Die Hard 2
Die Hard: With A Vengance
Live Free or Die Hard
A Good Day to Die Hard

As an aside, the Die Hard film was based on a novel called "Nothing Lasts Foerver" which sounds more like a Bond film to me.
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