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Only Connect (BBC4) [Part 2]
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Hercule Parrow
16-11-2016
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“Its quite ridiculous. I get two questions correct on a TV quiz and everyone thinks i am a liar.

If i were claiming to have unified gravity with the electro weak, strong and magnetic fields i could understand somewhat the skepticism received but no, all i claim is to be a fan of Depeche Mode and watched a show on the white house 2 weeks ago!”

i read more stuff on the kennedy assassination than is good for a person, and the story of that day in dallas is rife with secret service cock ups, yet i can't recall reading [ or remembering to be fair ] anything about the kennedy's, the connally's , the johnson's OR the lincoln's security call sign, nor have any of these names gone down in dealy plaza folklore.

anyway that came into my mind and that's not why i posted, no more beastliness towards codeblue please.
Ex Pat
16-11-2016
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“Its quite ridiculous. I get two questions correct on a TV quiz and everyone thinks i am a liar.

!”

No. You claim week after week to get 5 pointers against everybody else who honestly makes their claims.
Nobody has said its not possible to gat a 5 pointer. You just seem to exceptionly good at it. Your methods suggest that your not playing the game in the same time frame as the rest of us. Like you, we could all claim 5 points after thinking time but we don't.

Are you up to playing us in real time in a message room?
grimtales1
16-11-2016
I didnt spot the mistake but then I have no idea about Roy Jenkins and the Gang of Four

In the "Cover versions that reached No.1" question, who did the cover of Take on Me? I didnt remember that?

How the F could one member of the Networkers team mistake 'Run' for 'Chasing Cars' (admittedly both by Snow Patrol) and 'Only You' (Yazoo) for 'Caravan of Love' (Housemartins)?
Baz_James
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by grimtales1:
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In the "Cover versions that reached No.1" question, who did the cover of Take on Me? I didnt remember that?”

A1 in 2000.
panixs
17-11-2016
I dont know why codeblue is getting a lot of hate on here I also got 5 points on the secret service codenames.
If you google renegade and renaissance you get over half a million hits including news articles from the BBC, Daily mail etc
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ailblazer.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/1..._n_142767.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/ame...08/7726453.stm

And if you google Mogul and Renegade you get even more up to date news stories
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rotection.html
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015...code-name.html

So its not like its some obscure piece of knowledge that 10 people know about.
Even if you didnt get it at 5 points then Bill Clintons "eagle" and the numbers 41st 42nd should be enough to point you in the direction of US Presidents.


As a side note to all this I think I have spotted another mistake in this weeks show. In the first round music question the Psmiths gave the answer that all of them have cover versions that appear in films that answer is given as incorrect and they were looking for number one covers but all of those songs have had cover versions appear in films.

Take on me - covered by Reel Big Fish in the film soundtrack for BASEketball (1998)
Run - covered by Leona lewis in the film soundtrack for The Letters (2014)
Mad world - covered by Gary Jules in the film soundtrack for Donnie Darko (2001)
Tainted love - covered by Marlyin Manson in the film soundtrack for Not another teen movie (2001)
grimtales1
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“A1 in 2000.”

Thanks I'm getting old
pearlsandplums
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by grimtales1:
“I didnt spot the mistake but then I have no idea about Roy Jenkins and the Gang of Four

In the "Cover versions that reached No.1" question, who did the cover of Take on Me? I didnt remember that?

How the F could one member of the Networkers team mistake 'Run' for 'Chasing Cars' (admittedly both by Snow Patrol) and 'Only You' (Yazoo) for 'Caravan of Love' (Housemartins)? ”

All snore patrol songs sound pretty much the same. Boring dirges.
Aetius_Maralas
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by Ex Pat:
“No. You claim week after week to get 5 pointers against everybody else who honestly makes their claims.
Nobody has said its not possible to gat a 5 pointer. You just seem to exceptionly good at it. Your methods suggest that your not playing the game in the same time frame as the rest of us. Like you, we could all claim 5 points after thinking time but we don't.

Are you up to playing us in real time in a message room?”

Or, and this is the wifes' approach to the missing vowels round, make a dozen guesses and when one is right claim the 5 points whilst ignoring the rest.

A couple of times I've had got a 5 point question right with only one guess, but actually being confident enough to not ask for another clue? Well that's tricky.
Paul_DNAP
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“Its quite ridiculous. I get two questions correct on a TV quiz and everyone thinks i am a liar.”

Just to go on record that I don't think you're a liar, so it's not everyone.
iamian
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by Hercule Parrow:
“i read more stuff on the kennedy assassination than is good for a person, and the story of that day in dallas is rife with secret service cock ups, yet i can't recall reading [ or remembering to be fair ] anything about the kennedy's, the connally's , the johnson's OR the lincoln's security call sign, nor have any of these names gone down in dealy plaza folklore.

anyway that came into my mind and that's not why i posted, no more beastliness towards codeblue please.”

'Lancer' ; it's used a lot on a lot on various sites concerning the Kennedy assassination and I believe there is one conspiracy site which uses that as its website name. (For the record: Lone nutter, three shots, that's all.)
I did know the bell codes when I saw the list but could never have got 5 points from the first clue, which was your point.

2.5.5
johnny_t
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by Paul_DNAP:
“Just to go on record that I don't think you're a liar, so it's not everyone.”

Seconded (though I do wonder if your willingness to go for it might be a bit less in the studio).

Anyway, it's all a bit of fun anyway, isn't it. We're talking about a gently humorous quiz show for the slightly nerdy. No reason for people to get all bent out of shape, is there....
lundavra
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by panixs:
“I dont know why codeblue is getting a lot of hate on here I also got 5 points on the secret service codenames.”

I might be wrong but I seem to remember a few weeks ago there were claims of getting five points in every question or nearly every question and that it was easy. The example a few days ago with the first clue 'Sedgefield', there are straight away four obvious possible answers and I am sure there are more. There might be a good chance that the sequence will go forward but cannot be sure.

It is a gamble, some people will like to have a gamble with the chance of five points but most are more cautious.
anotherlongers
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by lundavra:
“I might be wrong but I seem to remember a few weeks ago there were claims of getting five points in every question or nearly every question and that it was easy. The example a few days ago with the first clue 'Sedgefield', there are straight away four obvious possible answers and I am sure there are more. There might be a good chance that the sequence will go forward but cannot be sure.

It is a gamble, some people will like to have a gamble with the chance of five points but most are more cautious.”

She claimed too the other week that she aims for 40 points every week and usually gets it. Without freeze-framing the TV and taking ten minutes over every question, it would be impossible to formulate an answer before the contestant asks for the next clue.
JeffG1
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by grimtales1:
“I didnt spot the mistake but then I have no idea about Roy Jenkins and the Gang of Four

In the "Cover versions that reached No.1" question, who did the cover of Take on Me? I didnt remember that?

How the F could one member of the Networkers team mistake 'Run' for 'Chasing Cars' (admittedly both by Snow Patrol) and 'Only You' (Yazoo) for 'Caravan of Love' (Housemartins)? ”

Well there you go. It's an age thing, isn't it? You don't know about the Gang of Four - I do. You know all about those groups - I don't. In any case I was never much into popular music - different people like different things.
DICKENS99
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by johnny_t:
“Seconded (though I do wonder if your willingness to go for it might be a bit less in the studio).”

Thirded, though for me it's the comments like "Hopefully everyone got that one for five points, it was a gimmie." which are unfortunate and borderline trollish.
WurzelSpy
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by anotherlongers:
“She claimed too the other week that she aims for 40 points every week and usually gets it. Without freeze-framing the TV and taking ten minutes over every question, it would be impossible to formulate an answer before the contestant asks for the next clue.”


That's my take on it too. Not doubting her knowledge, just don't think it's possible to formulate so many 5 point answers that she claims to have. To claim a 5 pointer your answer would have to be stated as your only guess ( not just one of several possibilities) AND stated before the next clue appears (5 seconds in the Vince Clarke case , which would include time taken to recognise the track , title and artist before you can even begin formulating an opinion on the answer) AND without hearing any mumblings by the contestants which might put a spark of an idea into your head (often steers me onto the right track, sometimes genuinely don't know if I'd have got an answer on my own without their "help"). If any of those 3 conditions are not met it's not a 5 pointer.

Not doubting the president/code names. As soon as I saw 41st and a randomish word I guessed ordinal number of president and probably their code names although I had no knowledge of the code names, but easy for someone that is aware of them.. Even if I had it's still 50:50 whether they go backwards or forwards, although accept the logic that forwards brings us to present day so was the more likely option.

But the Vince Clarke one (and several others claimed from other episodes) - sorry, no way. I'll be interested to see if she accepts the chat room challenge, and will humbly apologise if she does and continues to get legitimate 5 pointers.
Hercule Parrow
17-11-2016
in the entire history of the show how many 5 pointers there been, not even one per episode ?

i wonder if a fair bit of pausing and googling is going on for the brainbox 5 pt claimants


2.5.5 indeed, how dare you.
DICKENS99
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by Hercule Parrow:
“in the entire history of the show how many 5 pointers there been, not even one per episode ?

i wonder if a fair bit of pausing and googling is going on for the brainbox 5 pt claimants


2.5.5 indeed, how dare you. ”

If you look back on page 101 of this thread there is an answer from previous question setter David Bodycombe in response to a query about the impossibility or otherwise of getting a 5-pointer, at that point which was 2013 and series 7 he gave stats for the Sequences round of about 2 5-pointer answers per series.
Hercule Parrow
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by DICKENS99:
“If you look back on page 101 of this thread there is an answer from previous question setter David Bodycombe in response to a query about the impossibility or otherwise of getting a 5-pointer, at that point which was 2013 and series 7 he gave stats for the Sequences round of about 2 5-pointer answers per series.”

yes, very rare.

although one has to factor in the home player will take more risks with a 5 point punt than a more careful studio bound team.
lundavra
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by anotherlongers:
“She claimed too the other week that she aims for 40 points every week and usually gets it. Without freeze-framing the TV and taking ten minutes over every question, it would be impossible to formulate an answer before the contestant asks for the next clue.”

That was my point, many might think they have the odd five point answer but would they be certain enough to press the button and risk getting nothing? In a really good week they might get a second one but getting every single one just sound so improbable.
grimtales1
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by JeffG1:
“Well there you go. It's an age thing, isn't it? You don't know about the Gang of Four - I do. You know all about those groups - I don't. In any case I was never much into popular music - different people like different things.”

Fair enough, that's true
beemoh
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by grimtales1:
“Fair enough, that's true ”

"Are they golfers?"
"No, they're the members of One Direction"
codeblue
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by lundavra:
“That was my point, many might think they have the odd five point answer but would they be certain enough to press the button and risk getting nothing? In a really good week they might get a second one but getting every single one just sound so improbable.”

As i have pointed out a good few pages back, i am gaming the system by going for 5 point answers when i have a logical reason for it. (I would never just guess at an answer unless it was 50:50, common in music round questions, or better.

5 points are worth a lot in this quiz, and even if your are wrong the other team can only guess for 1 point. It has lots of benefits and little cost.

If you cannot form a logical reason why its a 5 point answer, always wait and try for 3 points etc.

Far too many teams know the answer, have said the answer, but wait until the last clue to "confirm" it. What a waste of points.
DONTBANME
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by Ex Pat:
“I never said it was.

I am at least the 3rd person here who hasn't heard it.

You're a special person Codeblue but I don't believe a word you utter.”

Ex Prat doesn't believe you but he believes The Chase is 100% above board
codeblue
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by WurzelSpy:
“ Even if I had it's still 50:50 whether they go backwards or forwards, although accept the logic that forwards brings us to present day so was the more likely option.”

You state that its 50:50 in the direction, and then give the answer as to why its not 50:50.

The clue always tells you the direction it had to go in.

41st tells you it had to go to 44th being the present day.

If it were 4th, it would tell you its going back to 1st etc.

Sometimes, they will tell you the 3rd in a sequence as the first clue, as in the Letter "C".

The answer to the 4th clue must be "F".

Why?

Because it could not possibly go in reverse as there isnt a letter before A in the alphabet.

The clues are always there if you look for them, it HAS to be like that for the question to work.
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