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Only Connect (BBC4) [Part 2]
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trooperlooper
21-11-2016
Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“They were all correct technically or otherwise!

Place names - correct with the additional information that the two given were in Lancashire

Elizabeth Fry - the information that it was a fiver was not part of the answer so correct answer just by an unusual route

Erstwhile (not former) capitals entirely correct - the reason again not required.”

Place names had Belinda Carlisle as a clue, last time I looked Carlisle was in Cumbria. An answer that is correct after two clues, but wrong after 4 is wrong no matter how you look at it.

They gave the answer for the current (at the time of filming) person on a fiver. The sequence was previous people on a fiver in order. (the also didn't say the answer was crossed out)

They said former capitals. They aren't former capitals, they are the previous names of current capitals.
JeffG1
21-11-2016
Originally Posted by trooperlooper:
“They gave the answer for the current (at the time of filming) person on a fiver. The sequence was previous people on a fiver in order. (the also didn't say the answer was crossed out)”

Actually they were former people on descending values of banknote (50, 20, 10, 5) - only the last one was the five pound note.
trooperlooper
21-11-2016
Originally Posted by JeffG1:
“Actually they were former people on descending values of banknote (50, 20, 10, 5) - only the last one was the five pound note.”

Ah, my mistake, I wasn't paying enough attention at that point.

It still wasn't a former at the time and they didn't say it was crossed out.
Baz_James
21-11-2016
Originally Posted by trooperlooper:
“Place names had Belinda Carlisle as a clue, last time I looked Carlisle was in Cumbria. An answer that is correct after two clues, but wrong after 4 is wrong no matter how you look at it.

They gave the answer for the current (at the time of filming) person on a fiver. The sequence was previous people on a fiver in order. (the also didn't say the answer was crossed out)

They said former capitals. They aren't former capitals, they are the previous names of current capitals.”

No they said 'erstwhile' capitals! Not that it really makes a difference. Former capitals is still right. Formerly when asked what's the capital of Turkey you would have said "Angora". Now you would say "Ankara". That makes Angora a former capital in my book. Elizabeth Fry had been given the chop at the time of filming. Notes with her replacement had not yet been issued. And the example answer caption wasn't crossed out either! Your logic on the first question escapes me entirely. They didn't answer at 4. They answered at 2!

Any road up none of the answers was wrong even if they did not meet your standard of necessary degree of rightness and it would have been unreasonable not to give them the points. Besides their opponents got similar leeway on the brothers question and a less than precise answer on the folk lore, for example.
trooperlooper
21-11-2016
Yes they answered at 2,but it has to be correct once all 4 have been shown. Otherwise they may have well have answered at 1 and said long haired singers, after all it was correct for 1...

Oh, and the example answer was crossed out.

Also, you are correct, the folk lore answer was given correct when it shouldn't have been too
codeblue
21-11-2016
Originally Posted by Hercule Parrow:
“i wonder how many 5 pointers codeblue got tonight ?”

Three this evening, all in a row on the first round.

It seemed an easier quiz this week compared with others in the second round so far, but with some very questionable decisions on what was allowed as an answer (that should not have been).

The three questions I had five points on were as follows

Beaters : positions in quidich
Michael Bolton : place names in the uk
August 7 : scrabble letter values

All I thought were too easy for this part of the quiz, but I was happy for the points.
codeblue
21-11-2016
Originally Posted by trooperlooper:
“Place names had Belinda Carlisle as a clue, last time I looked Carlisle was in Cumbria. An answer that is correct after two clues, but wrong after 4 is wrong no matter how you look at it.

They gave the answer for the current (at the time of filming) person on a fiver. The sequence was previous people on a fiver in order. (the also didn't say the answer was crossed out)

They said former capitals. They aren't former capitals, they are the previous names of current capitals.”

I agree with this, very slapdash this week.
ClarkF1
21-11-2016
If they start accepting answers based on the clues revealed but after 4 would be incorrect then all questions should be guessed on the first clue
codeblue
21-11-2016
Originally Posted by ClarkF1:
“If they start accepting answers based on the clues revealed but after 4 would be incorrect then all questions should be guessed on the first clue”

Indeed. They made a massive mistake with that answer being accepted.
Baz_James
21-11-2016
Originally Posted by ClarkF1:
“If they start accepting answers based on the clues revealed but after 4 would be incorrect then all questions should be guessed on the first clue”

But it wasn't incorrect! It was overly correct. The link was place names which they said. There was no information at that point to suggest that it was not only Lancashire place names. So if there was a fault it was in the order in which the question was set for which the team rightly should not have been penalised.
Baz_James
21-11-2016
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“Indeed. They made a massive mistake with that answer being accepted.”

Says the queen of claiming any old answer as a five pointer!
JVS
21-11-2016
Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“But it wasn't incorrect! It was overly correct. The link was place names which they said. There was no information at that point to suggest that it was not only Lancashire place names. So if there was a fault it was in the order in which the question was set for which the team rightly should not have been penalised.”

True, it was a badly set question if they wanted a less precise answer.

Plus, if it's not possible to get the connection after 2 clues but only after 3 or 4 then the whole quiz is flawed.
Ex Pat
21-11-2016
Originally Posted by JVS:
“True, it was a badly set question if they wanted a less precise answer.

Plus, if it's not possible to get the connection after 2 clues but only after 3 or 4 then the whole quiz is flawed.”

It was possible to get it after 2 clues.

A few weeks ago there was a question about petrol companies.
There first 2 clues were JET and GULF. I thought the connection was STREAMS. I was wrong.
Supratad
22-11-2016
Well I said "Northern Towns" at the name of Michael Bolton. Whether Warwick could be classed as northern depends on how London-centric you are but I do agree with others that said the answer of Lancashire towns was incorrect. That should have been passed over to the other team.
codeblue
22-11-2016
Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“Says the queen of claiming any old answer as a five pointer! ”

Not any old answer,the correct answer.

I'm sure a few here also had 5 point answers last night. The Harry Potter question and scrabble letter questions were very gettable indeed.

There was no way " towns in Lancashire " should have been given correct though, it was wrong. The producers have made a huge mistake.

As the above poster said, gulf and jet are "streams" but that's the wrong answer. You cannot just link 2 answers and get the others wrong.
Paul_DNAP
22-11-2016
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“Three this evening, all in a row on the first round.

It seemed an easier quiz this week compared with others in the second round so far, but with some very questionable decisions on what was allowed as an answer (that should not have been).

The three questions I had five points on were as follows

Beaters : positions in quidich
Michael Bolton : place names in the uk
August 7 : scrabble letter values

All I thought were too easy for this part of the quiz, but I was happy for the points.”

Nice work!

I stitched myself up on the quidich question, I saw them as whisks not beaters so it just didn't make sense at all. oops.
lundavra
22-11-2016
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“Not any old answer,the correct answer.

I'm sure a few here also had 5 point answers last night. The Harry Potter question and scrabble letter questions were very gettable indeed.

There was no way " towns in Lancashire " should have been given correct though, it was wrong. The producers have made a huge mistake.

As the above poster said, gulf and jet are "streams" but that's the wrong answer. You cannot just link 2 answers and get the others wrong.”

There are lots of ways that the answer could have changed with the third and fourth clues. Bolton was in Lancashire until colonised by Manchester and now in Great Manchester, similarly Formby is now in Merseyside. So the next two could also have "moved" from a historic county to one of the modern plastic 'counties'.
inothernews
22-11-2016
Originally Posted by codeblue:
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There was no way " towns in Lancashire " should have been given correct though, it was wrong. The producers have made a huge mistake.

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But you are the one always saying a question should be gettable after 5 points.

After one clue it could have been Lancashire, or England, or UK.

After two clues it would have been perfectly logical to assume 'Lancashire' (first assumption backed up by confirmation of second clue) I mean, that's how you always tell us you get 5 points all the time. They could have played safe and said 'UK towns' and if they were all going to be Lancashire she would have said 'I need you to be more specific' but they were all TOWNS (so not a wrong answer- because correct connection 'They are all towns' was made) Otherwise you would have needed a third clue to find out not all in Lancashire. I hope you are not counting that as one of your 'i got 5 points' questions.
Paul_DNAP
22-11-2016
Originally Posted by codeblue:
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There was no way " towns in Lancashire " should have been given correct though, it was wrong. The producers have made a huge mistake.

As the above poster said, gulf and jet are "streams" but that's the wrong answer. You cannot just link 2 answers and get the others wrong.”

I think it was given due to the correct keyword "towns" rather then the superfluous "Lancashire" (although if anyone here thinks Lancashire is superfluous,. I'll have strong words to say).
ClarkF1
22-11-2016
They should have just said towns, and then been more specific if the answer had been towns in Lancashire and she'd asked, which she probably wouldn't have.
codeblue
22-11-2016
Originally Posted by inothernews:
“But you are the one always saying a question should be gettable after 5 points.

After one clue it could have been Lancashire, or England, or UK.

After two clues it would have been perfectly logical to assume 'Lancashire' (first assumption backed up by confirmation of second clue) I mean, that's how you always tell us you get 5 points all the time. They could have played safe and said 'UK towns' and if they were all going to be Lancashire she would have said 'I need you to be more specific' but they were all TOWNS (so not a wrong answer- because correct connection 'They are all towns' was made) Otherwise you would have needed a third clue to find out not all in Lancashire. I hope you are not counting that as one of your 'i got 5 points' questions.”

My answer was place names in the uk are surnames of the artists, the correct answer.

It had to be that, as "how was I supposed to live without you." Dud nit seem like it was going to be a connection, so it was always about the artist name. It could have been "all called Michael" but it was more likely to be places in the uk, which it was.

Players should err on the side of caution and Vicky will give the "can you be more specific" allowing you leeway to expand in your answer.
codeblue
22-11-2016
Originally Posted by Paul_DNAP:
“Nice work!

I stitched myself up on the quidich question, I saw them as whisks not beaters so it just didn't make sense at all. oops.”

It was going to be whisks or beaters. I'm sure we have had a similar clue in the past.

Once you assumed they were "beaters" the answer was always going to be quidich positions. You could also predict a picture of "the seekers" too!

The scrabble question was odd for this stage of the quiz. [too easy] A word with a number I always check for scrabble point values, we get at least one like this per season. Same with dr who, Star Trek and the only connect format itself!
Hercule Parrow
22-11-2016
i didn't get the beater graphic at all, its called egg whisk up here in caledonia,

plus any harold potter references are lost on me. the downside of only reading books designed for adults I suppose.
codeblue
22-11-2016
Originally Posted by Hercule Parrow:
“plus any harold potter references are lost on me. the downside of only reading books designed for adults I suppose.”

I guess your narrow-mindedness is preventing you from enjoying many things. Give Toy Story a watch, or Wall-E. Heck, why not risk it and read the harry potter books - you may like them!
Supratad
22-11-2016
Originally Posted by Hercule Parrow:
“i didn't get the beater graphic at all, its called egg whisk up here in caledonia,

plus any harold potter references are lost on me. the downside of only reading books designed for adults I suppose.”

I said that at the time. Rules of quidditch? It's a child's book for gods sake, and now there is a uni club who play it too? Ridiculous.
Reminds me of a Stewart Lee routine about books "have you read the latest Harry Potter Book Stu? Have you read it? It's really good, it's about a wizard Stu, you should read it."

"No, but I have read the complete works of William Blake, so f*** **f!"
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