As I wrote, it would be a gamble because the answer could have been something completely different. Our friend always claims the ability to be sure of the answer from one clue which is not true.

I would have loved the second clue (on the "Musician: Peter Baker") one to be "Poet: Christopher Nolan"

Rarely 100% sure, but you get a feeling that you have cracked it.

With the harry potter one a couple of episodes ago, for fans of the series it was a definite 5 point answer and you could be as close to 100% confident as you could be after just 1 clue.

My strategy is that if you are 50% sure or better, go for the 5 points. Sometimes teams know the answer and still take an extra one or even 4 clues just for confirmation. Its a waste of points.

I honestly think codeblue is trying to delude herself as well as us. Pretty sure, like the rest of us, several random thoughts go through her head on the first clue. Once the answer is revealed, if that ties in with one of her original guesses she is claiming 5 points.

There is simply no way that, even when you can think of a possible link, there is time to rule out all other possibilities before the second clue appears. You could get lucky with a logical guess now and again but not as often as she claims , borne out by the rarity of a 5 pointer in the programme itself.

I'm still, despite asking again yesterday, for her response to my post at #5223 regarding her thought processes resulting in the ridiculous claim from last week that her one and only response to a picture of some Pirates, (could have been buccaneers of course but unlikely I'll give her that) was the letter A. In just 7 seconds. Ruling out every other possibility, (I listed a few that sprang to mind to me in the 7 seconds in the original post, you can all probably come up with several more. None may end up as a sequence but I couldn't rule them all out that quickly). Even if you are aware of the correct sequence no-one in their right mind would state that that was their final (and correct) answer after just that one picture clue in such a short space of time.

If I'm wrong - which I doubt - I will humbly apologise. But I guess there's only one way to prove it and that's for her to let us know when she's appearing on the next series.

Indeed. I have had a few 5 pointers in my time. I'm always chuffed. I'm sure no one else is particularly interested in my thought processes, though. I'm certainly not interested in other people's.

I enjoy this thread for all the nitpicking of minutiae, and the bantering. It's never been a scoresheet until recently.

Here we go again.

I'm not "deluding myself". I state the answer out loud (and only one answer), let me let you into a secret - i do not watch the show on my own surrounded by cats! I watch it with other people, with the sound on mute so we cannot hear the teams thoughts!

You dont always have to rule out every possibility, but with the "ginger baker" clue i only knew of 1 possibility.

With the "pirates" clue i was purposefully looking out for a word answer where you take letters off a word, which form other words. It is a regular question style on only connect, as is the scrabble letter value connection.

Once you see the words within the word, its easy. I think i have a mug at home (its a quiz mug with lots of things written on it) with "you will always find "a rat" in separate" for common misspellings and words within words.

On the wall, always look for "homophones" etc, or as the teams actually refer to it, the "word question". "Albert Ross" anyone? You can almost guarantee there will be another homophone question on the wall in the next episode.

Scrabble, star trek, harry potter, calendars, GOT, The Beatles, Kings and queens, Presidents, states, prime ministers, islands, mountains, continents, rivers, birds, currencies, banks, olympics, tour de france, dr who are all regular question themes.

Teams do not regularly go for 5 points on the show, but they do get them - its not impossible. Yes i have stated many times that i purposefully "go for" 5 point answers as its the best way to get a big score in the first two rounds. I'm gaming the system.

2 five point answers score much better than 6 one point answers in the first rounds. If you think you know it, go for it.

I accept your apology.

I find it amazing that certain people here are willing to call a complete stranger a liar, or "deluded" repeatedly, and trolling me around the forum, for saying they got a question correct on a TV quiz!

This week i got 1 five point answer, as did others here, and yet we are now all liars! Ridiculous.

Please don't think I'm trying to rip you apart, or doubt you, but..

If you listen with the sound muted, how do you know when the music round is on?

Yes, again you explain yourself at length. Thank you, but I think we've got it now. Please don't put yourself to the trouble again.

Not all liars, surely?

lol i dont mute that round!

Though i did think "treble clef" was the first picture clue once!

I will go to the trouble if people keep calling me a liar.

If people stop calling me a liar, i will have no need to explain the logic behind my answers and we can co back to being super pedantic about each question.

Nobody suggested that it does. It's really not that hard a concept to grasp. It's a borderline, a transition point and therefore is not itself part of what precedes it nor what follows it, just as in the number line zero is neither positive nor negative. All times after it though the distinction be infinitely small belong to Day 2, all times before it though the distinction be infinitely small belong to Day 1 but it belongs to neither.

Part of the problem is clearly the tendency to see time as discreet ticks which of course it is not. There is a time 23.59.59 but there is also a time 23.59.59.9 and 23.59.59.99 and 23.59.59.999 recurring. There is a time 00.00.00.00....001 (where ... represents an infinite number of zeros!). 00.00.00 is the dimensionless moment between them.

Yes, I do now.
I humbly bow to your wisdom.

In all the years I have watched this quiz, I obviously had no idea how it worked.

You are, without doubt, the most cleverest person in the UK never to have actually taken part in the quiz of which you you, and only you it appears, have mastered.

You are so clever, as you keep reminding us all, that at one point you even deigned to suggest that the question setters themselves don't know how the quiz works.









Me thinks the lady doth protest too much.............

Nobody is calling you a liar. They pretty much all acknowledge that you truly believe that you're doing this. They're calling you deluded. As I've said before this could stop immediately if you just stopped keeping score.

Bad practice likely to lead to more mockery and charges of trolling: "Another couple of 5 pointers tonight."

Good practice likely to lead to no mockery and no charges of trolling: No mention of points, no crowing, no me, me, me!

If you genuinely want to be left alone then the correct choice is obvious. If you're actually loving all the attention as you seem to be to the slightly jaundiced eye of this veteran then quit the pretence!

Ok fair enough, you have my apology, last you'll hear on the subject from me.

I like your idea of watching with sound off - except for music round although the sound rarely helps me on that round anyway to be fair - often I'll get the right answer on clues 2 or 3 but never sure if I've caught a snippet of discussions between team members to steer me in the right direction or not. Conversely, I've had them steer me away from the right answer on the odd occasion. Downside is I'd miss out on VCM's scripted jokes ..... so no real downside at all then

The problem is that you have slightly taken over the thread, and it has become "codeblue's scoresheet" rather than a discussion about the quiz, the questions, the teams and what Victoria has done/said/worn this week.

I find it a bit tedious personally because I just don't care how many 5 pointers you get every week, or how you manage to do it. And you have explained how you do it several times, so if we don't get it now, we never will.

You are entitled to post what you like, of course, and I am entitled to have an opinion on it. Just giving you my take on things.

Codeblue hasn't taken the thread over. As is standard with trolls, it's the people that respond to them that ruin the thread, especially the ones that do it all the time, not the troll. All he/she does is plant the seed and the usual suspects have their weekly onslaught against that single post. It's blatantly obvious who the attention seekers are in this thread and I actually wouldn't put our resident troll at the top of the list.

I had my say about Codeblue and moved on. It's very, very easily done. Just skip through his/her posts. What is taking longer every week is skipping through the attention seekers reacting. The thread was bad enough with the smug pedants hogging the limelight but it's virtually unreadable now. Looks like it's shortly going to be another one to totally avoid.

Sorry, still don't get that. Why would you purposefully be looking for a word question when a photo of pirates came up? There is no logic to that. Why immediately dismiss all other possible sequences? That makes no sense.

No, that's just plain wrong. In our system of time, all of hours, minutes and seconds belong to a day. We don't go, Monday > 00.00.00 > Tuesday. In this instance, 00.00.00 is part of Tuesday.

There wouldn't actually be much of a thread if all the people you suggest don't post didn't.

Bye bye.

So Noon is part of Afternoon? There are times when you just have to accept that I'm right, galling as it may be, because I have (literally in this case) done the math. This is one of them! Sorry!

You haven't done any maths (please use English). It is not galling to accept that you are right because you aren't. I will concede this point if you can provide links to support it, until then I will go on believing that it's something you've just made up.

Probably the most definitive I can find:

http://www.npl.co.uk/reference/faqs/...12-pm-faq-time

Pirates of Penzance?

Could have been Gilbert and Sullivan operas.

Could be a few things.

I've a slight issue with that connection. one of the clues was "Liveli". "Liveli" isn't, as far as I know, a word in it's own right. I think all the other clues were.

I just checked the very first episode of "24" and what appears on the title intro (and Jack Bauer says) is:

"The following takes place between midnight and 1:00 am on the day of the California presidential primary".

I haven't looked to see whether they use "midnight", "noon" or digits for other intros.