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Only Connect (BBC4) [Part 2]
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Ex Pat
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“How is what they could have done relevant to anything? It was too close to the answer not to be given the point. Referee's decision is final.”

If they weren't bothered about the connection being murdering siblings, then why choose that as the connection?

She said it herself, the connection was murder.
jonbwfc
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by Ex Pat:
“If they weren't bothered about the connection being murdering siblings, then why choose that as the connection?
She said it herself, the connection was murder.”

No, the connections was murder by siblings. None of the candidates were murdered by anyone who wasn't their brother, the latter part is just as necessary. If they'd said 'they were all murdered' that wouldn't have been good enough and I suspect they would got a 'I'm going to need more than that..' response from Victoria. 'Betrayed by siblings' is 'more than half right' but not 100% correct IMO. Whether that should be good enough to get the point is, as has been suggested, a referee's decision. Personally I'd actually have said not, as the act of murder was part of the point too - you are correct to say that. But I'm not in charge.

In fact, I was amazed to see both sides cocking up the wall round royally. To run out of time in the wall round when you know what the answers are because you faff about so much you end up simply not pressing the buttons in time is ruddy criminal.
trooperlooper
19-12-2016
They both screwed up the wall in the end by having someone on the team insist they had tried the right combination already, which was frustrating and amusing to watch.
Ex Pat
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by jonbwfc:
“No, the connections was murder by siblings. None of the candidates were murdered by anyone who wasn't their brother, the latter part is just as necessary. If they'd said 'they were all murdered' that wouldn't have been good enough and I suspect they would got a 'I'm going to need more than that..' response from Victoria. 'Betrayed by siblings' is 'more than half right' but not 100% correct IMO. Whether that should be good enough to get the point is, as has been suggested, a referee's decision. Personally I'd actually have said not, as the act of murder was part of the point too - you are correct to say that. But I'm not in charge.

In fact, I was amazed to see both sides cocking up the wall round royally. To run out of time in the wall round when you know what the answers are because you faff about so much you end up simply not pressing the buttons in time is ruddy criminal.”

Yes, I know it was murder by siblings. I was stressing the "murder" part.
It wasn't even that difficult to guess murder once you recognise the names, which they obviously did.

I agree with your last point about faffing about on the wall.
Camis
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by jonbwfc:
“In fact, I was amazed to see both sides cocking up the wall round royally. To run out of time in the wall round when you know what the answers are because you faff about so much you end up simply not pressing the buttons in time is ruddy criminal.”

Originally Posted by trooperlooper:
“They both screwed up the wall in the end by having someone on the team insist they had tried the right combination already, which was frustrating and amusing to watch.”

That was bizarre - the one with the motorbikes and the 'cups' - they knew which were the bikes but for some reason couldn't deduce from that that the other four must have all been cups!
Johnny_Cash
20-12-2016
Quizzy Mondays gone. Not happy about that at all, by 8.30 on Friday I am at the bottom of the first bottle of wine and will stand even less chance than I do on a Monday.
JeffG1
20-12-2016
And then they have to put WILTY on at the same time as Only Connect. What would we have done in the days before PVRs?
codeblue
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by JeffG1:
“And then they have to put WILTY on at the same time as Only Connect. What would we have done in the days before PVRs?”

Used VR's?
JeffG1
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“Used VR's?”

Yes - I was being generic. Was your VR not personal?
codeblue
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by JeffG1:
“Yes - I was being generic. Was your VR not personal?”

We called them "videos", or "video recorders", or sometimes the Americanism "VCRs".

But i never heard of them ever being called "PVR"s in the 1980s.
ClarkF1
20-12-2016
Bet they're doing it to try and boost iPlayer numbers
Baz_James
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by ClarkF1:
“Bet they're doing it to try and boost iPlayer numbers”

To what end? It would detract from the viewing figures if ratings were an issue and it's not like BBC has to justify iPlayer.
Heston Veston
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by Camis:
“That was bizarre - the one with the motorbikes and the 'cups' - they knew which were the bikes but for some reason couldn't deduce from that that the other four must have all been cups!”

They put in three cups and then faffed about for ages. I was yelling "FED! FED! IT'S ****ING FED!" at the screen, and I rarely yell at OC.
KennyT
20-12-2016
Nobody spotted VCM's mis-speak then?

Spoiler
She said California was the NATO word, rather than Hotel....


K
Lenitive
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by KennyT:
“Nobody spotted VCM's mis-speak then?

Spoiler
She said California was the NATO word, rather than Hotel....


K”

Didn't spot that -- if that's the case, I'm surprised that wasn't corrected in the studio.

Though that reminds me, the question where they removed the state abbreviations from the word was a real cracker.
Baz_James
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by Lenitive:
“Didn't spot that -- if that's the case, I'm surprised that wasn't corrected in the studio.
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It was only a brief post-resolution slip. It didn't affect the game in any way.
JVS
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“To what end? It would detract from the viewing figures if ratings were an issue and it's not like BBC has to justify iPlayer.”

The BBC loooove iPlayer, they push it as much as they can, they'll even say a programme is available to watch again on iPlayer but omit to mention that the repeat is on BBC2 in 2 days' time. I think it gives them additional accurate statistics about popularity and scheduling that they don't get with BARB.
lundavra
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by JVS:
“The BBC loooove iPlayer, they push it as much as they can, they'll even say a programme is available to watch on iPlayer but omit to mention that the repeat is on BBC2 in 2 days time. I think it gives them additional accurate statistics about popularity and scheduling that they don't get with BARB.”

Doesn't iPlayer get far more viewings than the other equivalent services? So why do they need to "boost" numbers?
Lenitive
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“It was only a brief post-resolution slip. It didn't affect the game in any way.”

Yes, but those comments are still checked over for accuracy.
TheGrumpWizard
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by Lenitive:
“Didn't spot that -- if that's the case, I'm surprised that wasn't corrected in the studio.”

If they can let a wrong recent history answer get as far as being aired then you can't really trust them to pick up any error.
JVS
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by lundavra:
“Doesn't iPlayer get far more viewings than the other equivalent services? So why do they need to "boost" numbers?”

Where did I mention boost numbers? I was talking about statistics.

I don't think iPlayer has the most viewers, in 2014 only 25% watched programme recordings or catchup services - unless things have massively changed recently.
KennyT
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by JVS:
“Where did I mention boost numbers? I was talking about statistics.

I don't think iPlayer has the most viewers, in 2014 only 25% watched programme recordings or catchup services - unless things have massively changed recently.”

i think they were comparing iPlayer to ITVHub etc. BARB has some more recent stats:

w/e 4/12/16 approx #hours watched online
total viewing 20m hours
iPlayer 10m hours
ITVHub 4m hours
Sky <3m hours
ch4 <2m hours
the rest are much less significant.

http://www.barb.co.uk/download/?file...up_04Dec16.pdf

K
Boz_Lowdownl
20-12-2016
Maybe codeblue has been put off by the people doubting her, but I wonder how many 5 pointers she got yesterday? I got two really easy ones, You're Sixteen leading to Nineteen and 29/02/1700 leading to 29/02/2100. There was also another one I got 3 for which maybe could have guessed 5 but would have been a risk, but can't remember what it was now!
Horace Wimp
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by Boz_Lowdownl:
“Maybe codeblue has been put off by the people doubting her, but I wonder how many 5 pointers she got yesterday? I got two really easy ones, You're Sixteen leading to Nineteen and 29/02/1700 leading to 29/02/2100. There was also another one I got 3 for which maybe could have guessed 5 but would have been a risk, but can't remember what it was now!”

Ah, the ghost of Codeblue lives on.

Why 19 , could the 4th song not be Thirteen by Johnny Cash ?
Rroses
20-12-2016
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