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Old 05-11-2013, 07:08
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It was scandalous they got a point for round the world when they had absolutely no clue why. How can anybody have avoided hearing about Palin's travels? Bloody hell.

On a tangent, in University Challenge there was a question about the first messages sent via SMS, telegraph etc, exactly as appeared on OC a couple of weeks ago. Now I don't believe in coincidences, and this happens fairly often, so do all the question setters get together and swap ideas, or have they come from a common origin? I assume the programmes are recorded at widely spaced intervals in time and distance.
You don't believe in coincidences? A very odd statement as a coincidence is by its very nature accidental, and not intentional.
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Old 05-11-2013, 07:24
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Not sure I've had such a negative visceral reaction to a contestant before. Good Lord.
Yes, and we've to put up with the bellend at least once more. I was yelling at him to STFU during the wall.
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Old 05-11-2013, 08:52
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Love the idea of him eating cheese from a Billy Goat.
Yes, I was surprised that Victoria didn't spot the flaw with that concept.

Yes, and we've to put up with the bellend at least once more. I was yelling at him to STFU during the wall.
I seem to be the only one (except Victoria) who finds Jamie mildly amusing, and enjoys their banter.

And I do think the questions are getting easier. I'm sure it's not just that they're coincidentally picking things I know about.
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Old 05-11-2013, 09:55
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And I do think the questions are getting easier. I'm sure it's not just that they're coincidentally picking things I know about.
That's my impression too. (Although as a father of three I always appreciate it when they have a CBeebies-related question, which has happened quite a lot in the past couple of series!)

I think it's inevitable that the quality of contestants will drop a notch over time. Champion teams in the early series often featured the creme de al creme of talent from the British quizzing scene - the likes of David Stainer and David Lea, for instance. (Full disclosure: David Lea is a friend - I've quizzed with him on occasion before and while my general knowledge is better than most, the amount of stuff he knows is scary.)
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Old 05-11-2013, 10:02
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Yes, I was surprised that Victoria didn't spot the flaw with that concept.



I seem to be the only one (except Victoria) who finds Jamie mildly amusing, and enjoys their banter.
He gets in a couple of reasonable one-liners, but then just doesn't know when to stop.
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Old 05-11-2013, 10:33
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ray_Smith
Anyone see Emma in the latest episode of this series. She made me laugh. She looked like a guy! I think she was a pre-sex op man. No offence meant but I struggled not to laugh out loud. It was like something out of a comedy sketch show. Emma - you are a star!

Are you one of those people who points and laughs at people in the street?
I genuinely thought she was a masculine looking woman at first but then when she spoke I realized she was a man. The reason I struggled not to laugh is because there is a long history of cabaret drag artists in the UK. Danny La Rue. Remember him? A famous drag artist. Les Dawson had a character called Ada which was a big part of his comedy act.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...on-ada-007.jpg

So when you see a man dressed up as a woman on a quiz show it's hard to take him/her seriously. I don't think my reaction - certainly when you consider the long history of comedic drag artists on tv/theatre/film - was unreasonable or wrong.
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Old 05-11-2013, 10:40
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Oh for goodness sake - I thought we got over this childish Emma-baiting the first time she appeared.

After a brief double-take the first time around, I didn't really even notice this time. And they wiped the floor with the other team. Good for them.
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Old 05-11-2013, 11:03
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Emma is not a drag act, so please move past those comparisons.

Thank goodness she has such a lovely and loving family around her as it's clear she can't have such an easy ride with some of the General Public.
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Old 05-11-2013, 11:15
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I enjoyed the episode ,after suffering loads of teams comprising tweedy savants, and earnest combovers, the two teams last night contained personalities with a sense of fun.

I want that pube-haired Doc working at my health centre.
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Old 05-11-2013, 11:27
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I genuinely thought she was a masculine looking woman at first but then when she spoke I realized she was a man. The reason I struggled not to laugh is because there is a long history of cabaret drag artists in the UK. Danny La Rue. Remember him? A famous drag artist. Les Dawson had a character called Ada which was a big part of his comedy act.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...on-ada-007.jpg

So when you see a man dressed up as a woman on a quiz show it's hard to take him/her seriously. I don't think my reaction - certainly when you consider the long history of comedic drag artists on tv/theatre/film - was unreasonable or wrong.
There have been dogs that have been dressed up as clowns and dogs that have danced on TV. Pudsey, remember him?

So I assume that at the sight of any dog, even say a Doberman snarling and showing his teeth as it runs towards you, you would smile and chuckle remembering Pudsey?

Surely context is everything? Man dressed as a woman on stage whilst you are attending a comedy night = drag queen. Man dressed as a woman on a quiz show or shopping in Tesco = not drag queen.
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Old 05-11-2013, 12:04
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I genuinely thought she was a masculine looking woman at first but then when she spoke I realized she was a man. The reason I struggled not to laugh is because there is a long history of cabaret drag artists in the UK. Danny La Rue. Remember him? A famous drag artist. Les Dawson had a character called Ada which was a big part of his comedy act.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...on-ada-007.jpg

So when you see a man dressed up as a woman on a quiz show it's hard to take him/her seriously. I don't think my reaction - certainly when you consider the long history of comedic drag artists on tv/theatre/film - was unreasonable or wrong.
All your post is missing is "I'm not a transphobic bigot but..."
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Old 05-11-2013, 12:09
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I genuinely thought she was a masculine looking woman at first but then when she spoke I realized she was a man. The reason I struggled not to laugh is because there is a long history of cabaret drag artists in the UK. Danny La Rue. Remember him? A famous drag artist. Les Dawson had a character called Ada which was a big part of his comedy act.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...on-ada-007.jpg

So when you see a man dressed up as a woman on a quiz show it's hard to take him/her seriously. I don't think my reaction - certainly when you consider the long history of comedic drag artists on tv/theatre/film - was unreasonable or wrong.
0/10.
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Old 05-11-2013, 12:14
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In case you missed them the first time around on Pointless:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUtyQNHtu0w
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Old 05-11-2013, 12:16
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I enjoyed the episode ,after suffering loads of teams comprising tweedy savants, and earnest combovers, the two teams last night contained personalities with a sense of fun.

I want that pube-haired Doc working at my health centre.
I do think Jamie livened it up, a bit. I wouldn't want him as my Doctor, though.

Anyway, as he seems to have been on lots of things, I think he's hoping to get offered a job in Television.

All your post is missing is "I'm not a transphobic bigot but..."
Brilliant post.
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Old 05-11-2013, 12:21
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I want that pube-haired Doc working at my health centre.
I wondered if he was a Hitch Hikers' Guide fan doing a tribute to the original Zaphod Beeblebrox.
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Old 05-11-2013, 12:27
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Oh for goodness sake - I thought we got over this childish Emma-baiting the first time she appeared.

After a brief double-take the first time around, I didn't really even notice this time. And they wiped the floor with the other team. Good for them.
Amen to that.
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Old 05-11-2013, 12:53
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I seem to be the only one (except Victoria) who finds Jamie mildly amusing, and enjoys their banter.

And I do think the questions are getting easier. I'm sure it's not just that they're coincidentally picking things I know about.
I felt rather guilty about my antipathetic reaction to him based purely on his try-too-hard 'look at me I'm wacky' appearance. In sound only he's a confident, amusing contestant.
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Old 05-11-2013, 12:56
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I do think Jamie livened it up, a bit. I wouldn't want him as my Doctor, though.

Anyway, as he seems to have been on lots of things, I think he's hoping to get offered a job in Television.



Brilliant post.
Yes that's what I think. The producers that decide who get on shows obviously like him - can't see why myself unless they are looking to make the shows hideously cringeworthy! Please let Only Connect be the last time we see him on TV and let me never get ill anywhere near where he works.
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Old 05-11-2013, 13:14
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I wondered if he was a Hitch Hikers' Guide fan doing a tribute to the original Zaphod Beeblebrox.
That's who he reminded me of! According to his Twitter, he's an ex-doctor now apparently.
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Old 05-11-2013, 13:20
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Jamie Karran is on twitter.

Appears he is no longer a doctor (according to his bio)

But, on the plus side, he does admit in a recent tweet that he can be 'a bit of a nob'.
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Old 05-11-2013, 13:47
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Jamie Karran is on twitter.

Appears he is no longer a doctor (according to his bio)

But, on the plus side, he does admit in a recent tweet that he can be 'a bit of a nob'.
I think I know which bit.
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Old 05-11-2013, 13:55
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Yes that's what I think. The producers that decide who get on shows obviously like him - can't see why myself unless they are looking to make the shows hideously cringeworthy!
Well they did put the Stainers on time after time after time...
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Old 05-11-2013, 14:48
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In case you missed them the first time around on Pointless:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUtyQNHtu0w
You can see him on University Challenge as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m50JBaPdov8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXkGRaE9vEs
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Old 05-11-2013, 15:04
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On a tangent, in University Challenge there was a question about the first messages sent via SMS, telegraph etc, exactly as appeared on OC a couple of weeks ago. Now I don't believe in coincidences, and this happens fairly often, so do all the question setters get together and swap ideas, or have they come from a common origin? I assume the programmes are recorded at widely spaced intervals in time and distance.
As far as I'm aware, no-one on the OC writing team also writes for UC. They're made by different production companies as well.

I try to watch UC occasionally to see what kind of things they're up to, and sometimes I've had to park a question or two because we've been beaten to the punch. But our filming schedule, which often finishes only 3-4 weeks before the first show goes out, usually allows us to react to current events and trends before other shows.

it's impossible to avoid situations where similar ideas are used in the latest series that are filmed at roughly the same time.
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Old 05-11-2013, 15:09
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Totally wrong of me, I know, but I can't look at Emma without being reminded of Kenneth Cope in Carry on Matron. I'm sorry.
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