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The Casualty Thread (Spoilers) (Part 5)
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Glanbraint
30-08-2014
Originally Posted by skteosk:
“Bit of an odd one that. Not sure why Zoe got a moody voiceover if she's not actually gone for good. The episode seemed a bit schizophrenic as to whether Zoe's meant to be in the wrong or not, while Tess frustratingly brushes aside Zoe's comments on what she's become. I don't want Max to leave but it is a shame he didn't go with Zoe. Ash seemed rather wasted again. I think Tracie Bennett's character is meant to have appeared before but I'm too lazy to look it up, same as I'm too lazy to look up how many character Rene Zagger's played. Patient storylines were a bit much of a muchness really.

What else? Not sure how Connie worked out Ethan was behind the blood idea, presumably she just guessed. Had to laugh at Ethan demanding to know how Cal knew about it: Maybe it's because you left your laptop in the staff room with the file open on the screen?

So, the spoilers implying Tamzin's fiancé was following Jeff were thankfully a load of guff, meaning we're back to it probably being something to do with Samantha. Dave was definitely not what I was expecting. I can't say I'm getting the "Jeff's going to die" vibe that others are, guess we'll see.”

I presumed Lily may have had something to do with Connie finding out. After all she knew it was Ethan's idea and she must bear some resentment to her treatment by Cal The Cad ???
nick202
30-08-2014
Shirtless Jeff - rather nice
darrenh2011
30-08-2014
well that escalated quickly
gilesb
30-08-2014
Originally Posted by darrenh2011:
“well that escalated quickly”

....and involved some of the worst acting I have seen on casualty in a long time. The fight was particularly laughable.
alcockell
30-08-2014
Is Michelle Collins playing Cindy Beale again?
pug275
30-08-2014
of course jeffs fingerprints are now on the knife
gilesb
30-08-2014
Spoiler
so I guess jeffs exit is going to be jail? Cindy and bad actor husband will blame jeff, jeff goes to jail unless Tamzin saves the day and catches Cindy in a lie?
gilesb
30-08-2014
We'll that was a twist i didn't expect.
comedy89
30-08-2014
I wonder what role there could be for Charlie if he did step down . He is a character I can't see leaving Casualty.
gilesb
30-08-2014
Originally Posted by comedy89:
“I wonder what role there could be for Charlie if he did step down . He is a character I can't see leaving Casualty.”

Tea trolley?
comedy89
30-08-2014
Originally Posted by gilesb:
“Tea trolley?”

Wouldn't surprise me if that happens in a few years time.
Fergie86
30-08-2014
Originally Posted by comedy89:
“I wonder what role there could be for Charlie if he did step down . He is a character I can't see leaving Casualty.”

I can't see Charlie leaving Casualty either and i wouldn't want him to either as he has been there since day one when Casualty started way back in 1986, Casualty wouldn't be the same without him like Ash said tonight he has seen and dealt with every crisis known to man. However actor Derek Thompson is 66 years of age in real life, i don't know how old Charlie is meant to be but you don't see many Doctors or Nurses on the ED wards who are approaching 70 years of age in real life. The Casualty producers will have to think of a realistic way to keep Charlie in the show without him dealing with the pressures and strains of working on the ward on a day to day basis within the next few years as it will look stupid if Charlie is still on the ED Ward in 5 or 10 years time when he is approaching 80.
Collins1965
31-08-2014
What or where was that room that Elliot was talking to Charlie in? It wasn't Darwin.

I assumed Connie wants rid of Charlie to save money. She is becoming a cartoon baddie now.

The Irish gypsy girl spoke with northern irish accent whereas her 'uncle' spoke with a southern accent. A small thing but it annoyed me.

Still not warming to Lofty or Rita. Both annoyed me with what little they had.
johartuk
31-08-2014
Originally Posted by Collins1965:
“What or where was that room that Elliot was talking to Charlie in? It wasn't Darwin.

I assumed Connie wants rid of Charlie to save money. She is becoming a cartoon baddie now.

The Irish gypsy girl spoke with northern irish accent whereas her 'uncle' spoke with a southern accent. A small thing but it annoyed me.

Still not warming to Lofty or Rita. Both annoyed me with what little they had.”

I thought the whole reaction to Charlie's mistakes was odd - instead of getting him into the office for a chat to find out what was wrong, assumptions were made and it was decided that Charlie should go!

I liked the scene with Charlie and Lofty doing the ECG.

Was it my TV or was Connie looking a bit 'tangoed'?

The two different Irish accents annoyed me as well.

Good to have Dixie back, and I'm liking the chemistry between Jeff and Tamzin.
barkingmad
31-08-2014
IMHO..... The fight scene was really badly acted... Especially by Michelle Collins..I also think Matt B seems to have lost loads of weight but again, only my opinion, looks better with a bit of meat on his bones!!!
SellSimilar
31-08-2014
Loved all the 'brooding Jeff' scenes, and the classy reveal of his phone - which we really ought to have remembered, it was in the scene!

Connie is very definitely more orange than she was. It's clashing badly with her scrubs.

Elliott's room looked odd because they had blocked the window, to hide it not actually being Darwin and not several floors up. Not untidy enough either.

I assume this is the lead-in to Charlie's big story, which is part of the 30th anniversary celebrations. Perhaps he is going to get an admin role, though the more realistic route would be to make him a mental health nurse on a full-time basis, liasing with the department. He's been shown to have the experience, and won't have to do too much actual nursing.
barkingmad
31-08-2014
Also....did I hear right? Did Jeff say he loved Tamzin?
Fergie86
31-08-2014
Originally Posted by barkingmad:
“Also....did I hear right? Did Jeff say he loved Tamzin?”

Yeah he did right at the end of the episode.
skteosk
31-08-2014
Originally Posted by Glanbraint:
“I presumed Lily may have had something to do with Connie finding out. After all she knew it was Ethan's idea and she must bear some resentment to her treatment by Cal The Cad ???”

That was what the spoilers seemed to suggest but it never actually happened in the episode, or was even really hinted at. Connie just plucked the information out of the air.

But...new week. Well, I thought a couple of weeks back when we first saw someone following her that Samantha would turn out to be hiding something. But I never anticipated that she would end up being that evil. I'm glad it was sorted out in one episode but the ending was rather rushed, with Jeff casually producing his incriminating recording, even if it was set up earlier in the episode when he talked about recording proof. I have to say I wasn't overly impressed with Tamzin, whose solution was to encourage Jeff to lie as well. It does seem increasingly likely those two will end up going off together. That said, Jeff didn't directly or even particularly indirectly say he loved Tamzin, he just pointed out that she was saying he loved her. Never mind Jeff, I actually thought Dixie had lost weight here.

My main stumbling block with the young couple was that the girl looked about 10 years older than the boy. Despite that, it was a decent storyline with some nice twists and Max getting to be properly heroic. Lofty actually seemed pretty competent for once in coming up with the diagnosis but, after following Charlie's example, he went down in my estimation by agreeing with Ash's derogatory comments on Charlie. Charlie never even saw the patient, let alone found out he'd been looking after pigeons, so what is he meant to have "missed"? Coupled with Lofty making dismissive comments about Max in front of a patient, it wasn't really as good an episode for him as it was probably meant to be.

Connie seemed to compete with Samantha for most evil woman in the episode, as she schemes to get rid of Charlie. I was surprised it was Tess, who's been firmly Team Connie recently, who raised an objection rather than Ash, who just made stuff up, or at least took it out of complex, to make it sound like a good idea. To be honest, the whole thing doesn't make much sense: The recap reminds us they're already one senior nurse down (thanks to Tess still hoping to give it to her friend) so are they seriously going to get rid of another one and leave Tess running the department with a bunch of Grade Es?
GillT07
31-08-2014
Originally Posted by Collins1965:
“I assumed Connie wants rid of Charlie to save money. She is becoming a cartoon baddie now.”

I think they're doing it to make sure we hate Connie. Then she'll probably become ill, or something, so they can show another side to her; then we'll all be rooting for her when Zoe gets back.
george.millman
31-08-2014
Was anyone else kind of hoping that Jeff would get the blame for stabbing Simon? Not that I dislike Jeff that much or anything (he's not my favourite, but I don't hate him) but in this programme, apart from when people are killed off, no one ever leaves in a thoroughly unfair way. They always either ride off into the sunset or have a vague 'moving on' idea. I would have liked a character to leave by going to jail for something that we as viewers know that they didn't do, because things like that happen in real life sometimes and it would be nice to reflect that. Just occasionally, it would be nice for a character to have a really unsatisfactory ending, just to remind us that Holby isn't a fairytale.
comedy89
31-08-2014
Originally Posted by george.millman:
“Was anyone else kind of hoping that Jeff would get the blame for stabbing Simon? Not that I dislike Jeff that much or anything (he's not my favourite, but I don't hate him) but in this programme, apart from when people are killed off, no one ever leaves in a thoroughly unfair way. They always either ride off into the sunset or have a vague 'moving on' idea. I would have liked a character to leave by going to jail for something that we as viewers know that they didn't do, because things like that happen in real life sometimes and it would be nice to reflect that. Just occasionally, it would be nice for a character to have a really unsatisfactory ending, just to remind us that Holby isn't a fairytale.”

Most people do leave quietly and under the radar though.
jazzydrury3
31-08-2014
Charlie is going to be heavily used in the build up to its 30th Anniversary next year, so he isn't going nowhere
skteosk
31-08-2014
Originally Posted by george.millman:
“Was anyone else kind of hoping that Jeff would get the blame for stabbing Simon? Not that I dislike Jeff that much or anything (he's not my favourite, but I don't hate him) but in this programme, apart from when people are killed off, no one ever leaves in a thoroughly unfair way. They always either ride off into the sunset or have a vague 'moving on' idea. I would have liked a character to leave by going to jail for something that we as viewers know that they didn't do, because things like that happen in real life sometimes and it would be nice to reflect that. Just occasionally, it would be nice for a character to have a really unsatisfactory ending, just to remind us that Holby isn't a fairytale.”

I take your point but at the risk of stating the obvious, the problem with an unsatisfactory ending is that it's unsatisfactory. The storyline would feel half-finished and viewers would be left expecting an episode where the truth comes out. You can have characters leave in a downbeat manner without being killed off, being sacked unfairly or injured so they have to give up work for instance, and the show has had those sorts of exit in the past, but I don't think that would really work because it would be difficult to make it seem irreversibly final.
qwerty21
01-09-2014
Originally Posted by george.millman:
“Was anyone else kind of hoping that Jeff would get the blame for stabbing Simon? Not that I dislike Jeff that much or anything (he's not my favourite, but I don't hate him) but in this programme, apart from when people are killed off, no one ever leaves in a thoroughly unfair way. They always either ride off into the sunset or have a vague 'moving on' idea. I would have liked a character to leave by going to jail for something that we as viewers know that they didn't do, because things like that happen in real life sometimes and it would be nice to reflect that. Just occasionally, it would be nice for a character to have a really unsatisfactory ending, just to remind us that Holby isn't a fairytale.”

Scarlett? She went into prison about 2 years ago.
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