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Very selfish of him.
I repeat that he should have instant dismissal for misuse of a computer, and reading a colleague's medical records. Quote:
That's what I love about Tess and Fletch - their relationship is MEANT to be complex..
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OK - say we were working in the same place - me in IT and you in an end-user role. How would you like it if I misused my admin rights to casually look into your mailfile and home directory when you hadn't called helpdesk about a problem and I was working on your incident ticket?
Goes against their Code of Conduct and Information Security training. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Protection_Act_1998 Fletch breached Section 55 of the Act - unlawfully accessing Tess's records. Here's a real-world case. http://www.ico.org.uk/news/latest_ne...tails-12032013 Quote:
No excuse. At all.
If I was working in NHS IT - and I used my admin rights to pull data on a relative or friend - I would be summarily sacked. Quote:
Again - COMPLETELY VERBOTEN.
As the Data Subject, Tess has final say over how her data is processed. Her consultant could pull her records and process them while she had the termination, medical secs could process her static data to send the letter... someone in IT has access to back them up (but only at a DB level), a DBA could repair the record (if auth'd by a change request). Fletch could not even get her data by means of a Data Subject Access Request - as there is no Letter Of Authority (as far as we know) from Tess authorising him access.. I don't know what you do as a job - but if you use IT in any shape or form, you would typically have an annual refresher on the principles of the Data Protection Act. Of course - under the Health records Act - Jeremy Hunt is the ultimate current data owner... Quote:
Still not allowed.
That's what confidentiality agreements are signed for. The NHS takes these things very seriously. Quote:
Still no justification as it wasn't that patient episode.
He looked at a patient episode while she was under Gynae care... nowt to do with him. Breach of Section 55... when the next security audit is done (likely within 12 months) - he's out the door, P45 sent onward. Quote:
... and committed Gross Misconduct in the act. Unlawful access under the Data Protection Act is a CRIMINAL OFFENCE.
It is a soap which means it is fiction, but it is totally unacceptable in fiction as well as in real life for a member of staff to do what Fletch did, and the writers should be told this. |
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so what zoe did was unacceptable too. the only difference with fletch is that tess didnt want him to see she was pregnant.
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Dear god this is a fictional show... Can we get away from the formalities of what would happen in real life?
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which part are you agreeing with?
i wish people would use bold more to specific bits I agree with if she'd been more open and honest with him he wouldn't react the way he does |
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Dear god this is a fictional show... Can we get away from the formalities of what would happen in real life?
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I have 2 kids can't mess about with fonts...
I agree with if she'd been more open and honest with him he wouldn't react the way he does |
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Just have to ask as have missed a few episodes.
I know Tess told Zoe that she had a termination, and from the basic data Fletch pulled up it noted her outpatients appointment, and the fact that she was admitted to general surgery, then discharged. The fact that she is clearly not well, the dizziness when Fletch called in to see her that morning etc, I dont know any upcoming spoilers, as its the one prog I try not to look for them, so most people in this thread probably know a lot more than me, but is it possible that she was admitted for a termination, decided against it, and was discharged, and that she may still be pregnant? Please put me right here if I am way off track. |
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well i dont know if people were agreeing with the whole post. the original poster claimed i was seeing what i wanted to see which is so much more further than the truth. if your going to agree people need to make clear which bits.
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Just have to ask as have missed a few episodes.
I know Tess told Zoe that she had a termination, and from the basic data Fletch pulled up it noted her outpatients appointment, and the fact that she was admitted to general surgery, then discharged. The fact that she is clearly not well, the dizziness when Fletch called in to see her that morning etc, I dont know any upcoming spoilers, as its the one prog I try not to look for them, so most people in this thread probably know a lot more than me, but is it possible that she was admitted for a termination, decided against it, and was discharged, and that she may still be pregnant? Please put me right here if I am way off track. It would make a very interesting twist... |
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Just have to ask as have missed a few episodes.
I know Tess told Zoe that she had a termination, and from the basic data Fletch pulled up it noted her outpatients appointment, and the fact that she was admitted to general surgery, then discharged. The fact that she is clearly not well, the dizziness when Fletch called in to see her that morning etc, I dont know any upcoming spoilers, as its the one prog I try not to look for them, so most people in this thread probably know a lot more than me, but is it possible that she was admitted for a termination, decided against it, and was discharged, and that she may still be pregnant? Please put me right here if I am way off track. |
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People will always have differing views on their relationship..that's up to the individual person. I just agree with if she'd have been more honest the whiole way through, it may have turned out different
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Still not allowed.
That's what confidentiality agreements are signed for. The NHS takes these things very seriously. |
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It's hilarious that people are trying to defend Fletch for accessing Tess' medical records.
Irregardless of whether you like him or not, he had no right to access them. He wasn't treating her, he wasn't given her permission, so in the eyes of the trust, he'd be in breach of his employment contract and, should Tess report it, he'd have to be investigated and probably sacked since he's on a final written warning. |
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It's hilarious that people are trying to defend Fletch for accessing Tess' medical records.
Irregardless of whether you like him or not, he had no right to access them. He wasn't treating her, he wasn't given her permission, so in the eyes of the trust, he'd be in breach of his employment contract and, should Tess report it, he'd have to be investigated and probably sacked since he's on a final written warning. |
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It's hilarious that people are trying to defend Fletch for accessing Tess' medical records.
Irregardless of whether you like him or not, he had no right to access them. He wasn't treating her, he wasn't given her permission, so in the eyes of the trust, he'd be in breach of his employment contract and, should Tess report it, he'd have to be investigated and probably sacked since he's on a final written warning. |
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Firstly, it's a TV show. Secondly, it's a TV show. Thirdly, he was worried and loves Tess enough to go to "extreme" measures. Lastly, it's a TV show.
Especially IT bods like me - where either currently or in the past, they have had to *enforce* data protection by disabling the user accounts of people like Andrew Fletcher at the behest of the relevant Security and HR depts... Although I remember when I was in 2nd line support and email/systems admin, some users were a tad more blase about their responsibilities when it came to IT security and data protection.. |
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Yeah - but if it's left alone, this has EVERY medico, finance person, IT bod - ANYONE who deals with personal data at work screaming at their telly...
Especially IT bods like me - where either currently or in the past, they have had to *enforce* data protection by disabling the user accounts of people like Andrew Fletcher at the behest of the relevant Security and HR depts... Sorry to be picky.
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Firstly, it's a TV show. Secondly, it's a TV show. Thirdly, he was worried and loves Tess enough to go to "extreme" measures. Lastly, it's a TV show.
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Adrian is his Sunday name...except when Tess calls him in it in the middle of resus.
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I don't understand the 'it's a TV show' argument. Yes it is, but it's a TV show that shows us things for a reason. I don't object to the TV show broadcasting the fact that Fletch looked at Tess' medical records, as that's artistic license. What I object to is in-universe, the character of Fletch doing that. I wouldn't complain to the TV show that they broadcast it, but that doesn't mean that I have to accept the action that takes place within the story.
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but he did take her in as a patient
Especially Tess . Right or wrong he had to find out somehow.. It's tv land! |
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Adrian is his Sunday name...except when Tess calls him in it in the middle of resus.
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His name is Adrian.
Sorry to be picky. ![]() ![]() But users' blase attitudes to DPA did use to annoy me when I had admin rights (current role in Capacity Planning doesn't need them, so I'm a regular mortal now) |
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Yeah - but if it's left alone, this has EVERY medico, finance person, IT bod - ANYONE who deals with personal data at work screaming at their telly...
Especially IT bods like me - where either currently or in the past, they have had to *enforce* data protection by disabling the user accounts of people like Andrew Fletcher at the behest of the relevant Security and HR depts... Although I remember when I was in 2nd line support and email/systems admin, some users were a tad more blase about their responsibilities when it came to IT security and data protection.. |
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