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Old 28-11-2016, 14:45
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I...actually didn't mind that too much, even though it was very flawed. And no bloody Connie was a definite bonus. The wizard of oz thing actually almost worked, the only problem was the episode felt the need to explain it at least three times as if they thought we weren't able to work it out ourselves. Also, I'm not sure how exactly Charlie managed to win the bet. The bet seemed to be that Charlie could motivate people better than Jacob using Wizard of Oz references (or something) but Jacob was the one that seemed to be making most of the references, while Charlie never spoke to Louise and barely spoke to Noel, meaning it seemed more a case of Jacob motivating people using the advice Charlie gave him..? (And David did seem to be channelling Mike Bradley with his serve to the drug dealer.) Still, the twist that Charlie had actually been playing Jacob all along is one I think more of in retrospect than in context at the end of a very silly sequence.
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Old 28-11-2016, 21:22
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I find Noel to be one of the most irritating characters ever. There just isn't a point to the character. As much as several of the other characters also annoy me, at least I feel there's a point to them. And it's not because Noel's the receptionist rather than a member of the medical team, it's because he spends more time nosing around and busybodying and gossiping than he does working.

And when are the senior members of the department going to give Cal a much-needed kick up the backside regarding his laziness and unwillingness to do his job? Ethan would be a much better character if Cal weren't around; he'd have a chance to get out from his brother's shadow and hopefully develop as a character, Actually, talking of pointless characters, Cal is probably up there with Noel for me.

Oh, and the whole WIzard of Oz and subterfuge and whatever it was... not good
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Old 28-11-2016, 21:44
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I think we are supposed to be rooting for an Ethan-Alicia relationship despite the fact that she is enjoying a casual sexual relationship with his brother. Bizarre.
I don't know what's going on between them, or who wants who. I tend to zone out slightly, their scenes don't interest me anymore (not that I was that riveted to begin with).
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Old 28-11-2016, 22:11
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I think Ethan and Alicia are a better match than Alicia and Cal. Whilst I do like Ethan and Alicia I wish they had just gotten them together and forgot about this whole love triangle storyline. It's incredibly annoying.
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Old 28-11-2016, 22:36
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I find Noel to be one of the most irritating characters ever. There just isn't a point to the character. As much as several of the other characters also annoy me, at least I feel there's a point to them. And it's not because Noel's the receptionist rather than a member of the medical team, it's because he spends more time nosing around and busybodying and gossiping than he does working.

And when are the senior members of the department going to give Cal a much-needed kick up the backside regarding his laziness and unwillingness to do his job? Ethan would be a much better character if Cal weren't around; he'd have a chance to get out from his brother's shadow and hopefully develop as a character, Actually, talking of pointless characters, Cal is probably up there with Noel for me.

Oh, and the whole WIzard of Oz and subterfuge and whatever it was... not good
100 percent agree with you about Noel.

I do like Cal though, however it might just be that I find him rather easy on the eye and so tend to ignore the fact he doesn't do much work as he's just nice to have in a scene! I blame the writers for giving him silly repetitive storylines but actually when given the right material both actor and character are very good.
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Old 28-11-2016, 22:53
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100 percent agree with you about Noel.

I do like Cal though, however it might just be that I find him rather easy on the eye and so tend to ignore the fact he doesn't do much work as he's just nice to have in a scene! I blame the writers for giving him silly repetitive storylines but actually when given the right material both actor and character are very good.
I agree the actor playing Cal is a good actor who is being given poor material, the poor material being why he's a pointless character for me at this time. The problem is, that then impacts on Ethan as well. I'd like to see Cal move over into Holby, as I think it would do both characters good to be separated, and as Cal doesn't seem to be particularly committed to emergency medicine, perhaps he might be more interested in doing his job if he were in another area of medicine -- either that, or there would be senior staff who would be less inclined to let him get away with doing a half-arsed job.
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Old 29-11-2016, 07:06
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I agree the actor playing Cal is a good actor who is being given poor material, the poor material being why he's a pointless character for me at this time. The problem is, that then impacts on Ethan as well. I'd like to see Cal move over into Holby, as I think it would do both characters good to be separated, and as Cal doesn't seem to be particularly committed to emergency medicine, perhaps he might be more interested in doing his job if he were in another area of medicine -- either that, or there would be senior staff who would be less inclined to let him get away with doing a half-arsed job.
Great idea .... they should send him to Darwin under Jac!
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Old 29-11-2016, 08:37
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Exactly! Jac wouldn't let Cal get away with avoiding working. Nor would Serena or Ric, for that matter, but especially not Jac.
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Old 29-11-2016, 09:07
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I can't stand either Cal, Ethan or Alicia. What is the status of their relationships again? They seem rather pointless as they don't seem to do anything.
I like Ethan Alicia and Cal are likeable on their own, but not with each other. I don't care for the Alicia and Cal relationship.
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Old 29-11-2016, 10:22
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I like Ethan Alicia and Cal are likeable on their own, but not with each other. I don't care for the Alicia and Cal relationship.
What about Ethan and Alicia as couple?
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Old 29-11-2016, 12:52
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Why is this show obsessed with Chuffy, Jonnie, Robyn's wedding/parturition, the dreary triangle, or any of this palaver?

I know I'm a boring git about the soap crap. But the soap is crap.

PS all in favour of memmh's brilliant idea about shipping Cal off somewhere to do his work. Ethan too. He spends the whole shift staring at a blummin' dating site. Last time Casualty did an inspection, it was Cal bunking off to bed Taylor, and the show knew this was wrong. In Grayling's inspection, what did we see Ethan do? He's staring at the dating agency details. There's no sign that the show even recognises how inappropriate and downright lazy these two brothers are (these days).

My daily grump.
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Old 29-11-2016, 13:40
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Why is this show obsessed with Chuffy, Jonnie, Robyn's wedding/parturition, the dreary triangle, or any of this palaver?

I know I'm a boring git about the soap crap. But the soap is crap.

PS all in favour of memmh's brilliant idea about shipping Cal off somewhere to do his work. Ethan too. He spends the whole shift staring at a blummin' dating site. Last time Casualty did an inspection, it was Cal bunking off to bed Taylor, and the show knew this was wrong. In Grayling's inspection, what did we see Ethan do? He's staring at the dating agency details. There's no sign that the show even recognises how inappropriate and downright lazy these two brothers are (these days).

My daily grump.
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Why thank you *curtseys*

Re skiving off at work, I find that Cal makes Ethan worse. I think that when Cal isn't around, Ethan does actually get on with his job. It's why I said ship Cal off to Holby, rather than Ethan. At least Ethan actually contributes to the running of the ED, even if it's always in curtains and the cases no one else wants to deal with.
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Old 29-11-2016, 19:47
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Why is this show obsessed with Chuffy, Jonnie, Robyn's wedding/parturition, the dreary triangle, or any of this palaver?

I know I'm a boring git about the soap crap. But the soap is crap.
To be fair, there wasn't actually any of that in the episode. Connie wasn't seen or mentioned. Robyn wasn't seen or mentioned. Charlie and Duffy were in it but no mention of their relationship apart from one ambiguous remark. Cal, Ethan and Alicia were in it but no mention of which one of them is sleeping with or fancies another, aside from subtext. So I wouldn't really say it's obsessed with it.
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Old 29-11-2016, 20:36
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Haven't watched it for a while. Hows Lilly?
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Old 29-11-2016, 21:05
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Hiya,

Does anyone know if it is possible to find catch up episodes online? For one reason or another I haven't watched Casualty since the crash but want to get back into it. I've swapped from from Virgin to BT to and so lost all the recorded episodes.

If it isn't possible to watch them, are there any sites I can get a detailed synopsis from?

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Old 29-11-2016, 21:12
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Old 30-11-2016, 01:50
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Old 30-11-2016, 01:56
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To be fair, there wasn't actually any of that in the episode. Connie wasn't seen or mentioned. Robyn wasn't seen or mentioned. Charlie and Duffy were in it but no mention of their relationship apart from one ambiguous remark. Cal, Ethan and Alicia were in it but no mention of which one of them is sleeping with or fancies another, aside from subtext. So I wouldn't really say it's obsessed with it.
I think I'd already repressed this episode in my mind.

But fair's fair, and you're right. This episode was a genuine holiday from the ships (apart from the one ambiguous remark).

Though I would still say the show is too focused on the love lives of the staff at the expense of other stories. I wouldn't mind so much -- I'm not naturally embittered against romance -- if the romantic stories were compelling good drama.
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Old 30-11-2016, 07:51
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Old 01-12-2016, 01:08
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Hiya,

Does anyone know if it is possible to find catch up episodes online? For one reason or another I haven't watched Casualty since the crash but want to get back into it. I've swapped from from Virgin to BT to and so lost all the recorded episodes.

If it isn't possible to watch them, are there any sites I can get a detailed synopsis from?

Thanks
You could try youtube, though the BBC is quite quick to take down channels. There are a number of places online but, to be honest, I've not found one that lets you watch without demanding payment or asking for details that I'm wary of handing over. Does anyone know a safe free place?

There's the BBC store, I suppose, but it's quite expensive.
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Old 01-12-2016, 01:33
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Haven't watched it for a while. Hows Lilly?
When did you last watch? She's not featured a great deal lately and disappointingly (though this might be my perception) some of her story-lines have been peripherally soapy/romantic rather than patient-based.

Going back a way...

1. She was a genuinely supportive and good friend to Ethan after he received his diagnosis for Huntingdon's.

2. Relationship with Alicia. Alicia returned to the show with a new brash personality. Lily was understandably awkward around her at first (after the jealous/bullying relationship they had). The balance of power between them changed somewhat when Lily was tricked into going to Alicia's birthday party in fancy dress, though I don't think Alicia believed Lily would actually go. But Lily went as a tart (for some reason) and was embarrassed to discover everyone else in ordinary clothes. Things are a bit easier between them now and Alicia even helped Lily hook up with her current bloke (see next point).

3. Career-enhancing romance with the hideous Mr Grayling (a locum neurologist and father to the new F1).

4. There was a wee good moment where the writers remembered Lily's vexed relationship with her over-ambitious father. It was blink-and-you-miss-it exchange on the anniversary of his death. As the anniversary coincided with Alicia's fancy dress hoax, Lily was distraught. She was trying something new in her life, trying to change, I guess, and ended up humiliated. As several posters noted, her daddy-issues probably go some way to explaining her pursuit of the much older Mr Grayling.

5. She seems to be forming a tentative friendship with the paramedic Iain.

6. In many ways, Lily seems more like she used to -- the 5-year-plan has returned along with a rather unsympathetic demeanour. She was publicly slighting about Dylan's mental issues.

Has there been anything else? Apologies if I've forgotten something solid.

I know I might seem caustic about her character. That's more out of disappointment than anything. The character and the actor can be fab.
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Old 01-12-2016, 20:36
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Two crossovers in the next few months. Mo from Holby will be in Casualty and so far and unknown Casualty character in Holby.
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Old 02-12-2016, 10:07
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Regarding Seb/Rik - I'll put this in spoilers just in case.

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Old 02-12-2016, 14:16
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Regarding Seb/Rik - I'll put this in spoilers just in case.

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Old 03-12-2016, 18:42
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Just finished watching last week's episode. Not too bad, but then it was a night shift

Looking forward to tonight's episode though.
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