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Old 31-12-2016, 21:31
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OK has been promoted to oversee Eastenders as well.
Heaven help us - find some dirt on him
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Old 31-12-2016, 21:31
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Louise is just vile

Thank God Max is the only one to see Sebestian for what he is

Shame, I actually quite like the character of Seb, I almost feel bad for him, his dad is a ****, but no one messes with Dylan,
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Old 31-12-2016, 21:36
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How can they all just turn on Dylan?, I do not believe that people who have known him that much longer would just believe a new comer over him. He has had their backs many a time, Only a couple of people seemed bothered about him at all. I hope that this is not a way for Dylan to leave - I will stop watching if he goes he is the best actor on Casualty.
Couldn't agree more. I hate the writing and characterisation on this show under the current regime. Everything is so short-term plot-centric - and the plots aren't even anything to write home about.

In the heyday of Casualty, you'd expect to see a New Year's Eve shift actually set at night, dealing with the pressures of A&E on what must be one of the busiest nights in the calendar. Now we just get characters paying lip service to this and we have lame storylines about teenagers wanting attention and unknown pregnancies. To cap it all, 95% of the time the staff are preoccupied with their personal lives.
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Old 31-12-2016, 21:36
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But it shows that Ethan can be selfish just like his brother. Ethan had many chances to get with Alicia but wasn't confident enough to do something about it, Just because Cal can be horrible to Ethan, it doesn't excuse his behaviour.
I know, and it's the WORST storyline in ages but I just dislike Cal sooooooo much that I'll take what I can get
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Old 31-12-2016, 21:40
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Dervla is the second best character on the show (after Dylan). I paused the letter Seb was writing and the last paragraph mentioned how he "even brought in a doggy treat bag for Dervla"
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Old 31-12-2016, 21:42
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Yay for Ethan finally growing a backbone!
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Old 31-12-2016, 21:57
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How can they all just turn on Dylan?, I do not believe that people who have known him that much longer would just believe a new comer over him. He has had their backs many a time, Only a couple of people seemed bothered about him at all. I hope that this is not a way for Dylan to leave - I will stop watching if he goes he is the best actor on Casualty.
Seems like the typical soap staple to me. Believe someone you barely know over someone you knew for a long time.
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Old 31-12-2016, 22:02
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Not a bad episode but I am disliking Seb and Louise amongst others. Like people have said how anyone is believing Seb who they have known for weeks over Dylan who they have known for years is beyond me. Would be nice to see no one believing him and everyone on Dylan's side but no they can't. Poor Dylan. Doesn't even seem like anyone is on his side apart from maybe Max.
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Old 31-12-2016, 22:06
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isn't Lofty coming back soon- maybe he will be the one to resolve Dylan/ Seb thing or at least help Dylan
Nothing has been confirmed
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Old 31-12-2016, 22:12
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Yay for Ethan finally growing a backbone!
Not really. If he had one, he would have gone to Elle and proved that the paper was his idea. There's nothing good about going after your brother's girlfriend.
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Old 31-12-2016, 22:14
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Not really. If he had one, he would have gone to Elle and proved that the paper was his idea. There's nothing good about going after your brother's girlfriend.
Each to their own, I'm glad Ethan finally put himself first. Ideally he should have told Alicia from the start.
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Old 31-12-2016, 22:18
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Each to their own, I'm glad Ethan finally put himself first. Ideally he should have told Alicia from the start.
Yep.

This storyline has put me off Ethan. I hate soap relationships that start like Ethan and Alicia's.
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Old 31-12-2016, 22:22
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Oh dear, where to start? Well, let’s go with Seb. Having been won over bizarrely easily last episode, Elle was a bit more even-handed and a bit more of a credible leader at least to start with, rightly telling Seb that she can’t do anything, let alone give him better marks because he says he’s being picked on, without it becoming official. Sadly, by the end she’s telling him she’ll make it official without him actually telling her he wants to (although maybe there was no way out of it after he accused Dylan in public). To be as fair to Seb as possible, he did seem to have doubts and was probably going to tell the truth when he went to see Elle at the end…but then, he also gave a panto villain smirk after manipulating Louise into backing up his story. The fact Elle would do a 180 after a photo in which Seb seems to be a willing participant was absurd. Nice that Max had Dylan’s back throughout and interesting that Robyn seemed worried about him (but then he has been looking out for her a lot lately). Louise is coming across as very unpleasant and judgemental again, and I’m sorry to say that cuddly Noel is increasingly acting just as judgemental, he just gets away with it by being cuddly. Dylan at the end was one of the laziest and stupidest television cliches in existence. (“We’ll show Dylan’s upset by having him smash up his home for no real reason! That’s what people always do when they’re upset, right?” Er, wrong.)

Again, the show seems to think Ethan and Alicia are some sweet couple we all want to be together when in fact they’re totally skanky. Maybe he’s been pining after Alicia for four months or so, but essentially Ethan seemed to decide to go and sleep with his brother’s girlfriend because he was annoyed with him. Maybe Alicia’s had feelings for Ethan for a while and only got together with Cal because he repeatedly rejected her (so his “He treats you so badly, I wouldn’t” is not only arrogant and selfish, it’s also a lie), but she is with Cal and that means she can’t go around copping off with other men. Of course, Cal is his own worst enemy as ever, refusing to let Alicia know how he feels about her and instead acting like the big man: His purloining of Ethan’s research seemed to be entirely the result of him acting like he didn’t care if he ended up in a different country from her and getting caught in the lie.

And again, I start off convincing myself I can cope with Connie in small doses and ended up with my belief that she’s an utterly repellant individual reinforced. Most of the regulars only seemed to be in it to do their party pieces restating their storylines, although Robyn actually did more than I first thought and the parallel between her and the pregnant woman worked well by not being forced. Paralleling Ethan and Seb with the other main guests didn’t work quite so well, as the result was them being able to tell others to do the right thing yet not to do it themselves. (Indeed, Ethan seemed to decide that doing the right thing didn’t do his expy much good so he’ll not bother.) The 15-year-old looked about ten years older than he was meant to be, so having him act like a child meant I spent a couple of scenes wondering if he was meant to be mentally backwards. (Can we say that?) There also seemed to be some confusion as to whether he actually was being bullied and had just staged that incident or whether the whole thing was made up.
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Old 31-12-2016, 22:57
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Just caught up.

That was actually quite a good episode (by recent standards!) and I'm glad Dylan is getting another storyline. Seb could be a great character, but I assume he just a plot device. It's so good seeing Rik playing someone a bit more devious - Nikhil in Emmerdale was always so nice.

I'm glad that Ethan finally played Cal at his own game, even though it's cheating. Alicia is a textbook case for how to ruin a character though. Not sure what I want to happen going forward - just please no 'who's the daddy storyline!'

It was nice to see some more of Max but he is screaming out for a decent storyline!
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Old 31-12-2016, 23:05
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Oh dear, where to start? Well, let’s go with Seb. Having been won over bizarrely easily last episode, Elle was a bit more even-handed and a bit more of a credible leader at least to start with, rightly telling Seb that she can’t do anything, let alone give him better marks because he says he’s being picked on, without it becoming official. Sadly, by the end she’s telling him she’ll make it official without him actually telling her he wants to (although maybe there was no way out of it after he accused Dylan in public). To be as fair to Seb as possible, he did seem to have doubts and was probably going to tell the truth when he went to see Elle at the end…but then, he also gave a panto villain smirk after manipulating Louise into backing up his story. The fact Elle would do a 180 after a photo in which Seb seems to be a willing participant was absurd. Nice that Max had Dylan’s back throughout and interesting that Robyn seemed worried about him (but then he has been looking out for her a lot lately). Louise is coming across as very unpleasant and judgemental again, and I’m sorry to say that cuddly Noel is increasingly acting just as judgemental, he just gets away with it by being cuddly. Dylan at the end was one of the laziest and stupidest television cliches in existence. (“We’ll show Dylan’s upset by having him smash up his home for no real reason! That’s what people always do when they’re upset, right?” Er, wrong.)

Again, the show seems to think Ethan and Alicia are some sweet couple we all want to be together when in fact they’re totally skanky. Maybe he’s been pining after Alicia for four months or so, but essentially Ethan seemed to decide to go and sleep with his brother’s girlfriend because he was annoyed with him. Maybe Alicia’s had feelings for Ethan for a while and only got together with Cal because he repeatedly rejected her (so his “He treats you so badly, I wouldn’t” is not only arrogant and selfish, it’s also a lie), but she is with Cal and that means she can’t go around copping off with other men. Of course, Cal is his own worst enemy as ever, refusing to let Alicia know how he feels about her and instead acting like the big man: His purloining of Ethan’s research seemed to be entirely the result of him acting like he didn’t care if he ended up in a different country from her and getting caught in the lie.

And again, I start off convincing myself I can cope with Connie in small doses and ended up with my belief that she’s an utterly repellant individual reinforced. Most of the regulars only seemed to be in it to do their party pieces restating their storylines, although Robyn actually did more than I first thought and the parallel between her and the pregnant woman worked well by not being forced. Paralleling Ethan and Seb with the other main guests didn’t work quite so well, as the result was them being able to tell others to do the right thing yet not to do it themselves. (Indeed, Ethan seemed to decide that doing the right thing didn’t do his expy much good so he’ll not bother.) The 15-year-old looked about ten years older than he was meant to be, so having him act like a child meant I spent a couple of scenes wondering if he was meant to be mentally backwards. (Can we say that?) There also seemed to be some confusion as to whether he actually was being bullied and had just staged that incident or whether the whole thing was made up.
Brilliant post, wish I could put things so eloquently, says everything I'm thinking after watching this episode.
Really upset for Dylan, hope this isn't going to turn into an exit storyline for him
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Old 31-12-2016, 23:38
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All I can say is that no one is your true friend on Casualty. In the blink of an eye they can turn on you like a pack of wolves.
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Old 31-12-2016, 23:53
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A few points I forgot to make earlier: I said last episode that Dylan threatening to fail Seb was the wrong approach and this episode reinforced it. Seb acted on a false premise, as he learns early on that Dylan was exaggerating and he wasn't on the verge of failing at all. Not that Seb's lies are in any way justified but Dylan needs to learn the right way to motivate him and he failed. In a way he is to Seb what Cal is to Ethan...except while Cal actually has done wrong by Ethan, Dylan has merely provoked Seb with what he thinks are good intentions. Of course, it's hard to see what Seb's going to get out of this, and he seems to pretty much be doing damage limitation. Best case scenario for him seems to be that he has to repeat with a new mentor (and what happened to him having to leave if Dylan wasn't willing to mentor him?).

I'd say Ethan has done the opposite of growing a backbone: He's as spineless as Seb, sneaking around and stabbing Cal in the back instead of being open. Without getting on my soapbox, while the reaction to Ethan is mixed, comments on Alicia seem almost wholly negative, sometimes even from people who approve of Ethan which seems like a bit of a double standard. No "Good that Alicia's picked the right brother now", instead it's as if she's perceived as a sex toy that Ethan's taken off his brother.
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Old 31-12-2016, 23:56
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All I can say is that no one is your true friend on Casualty. In the blink of an eye they can turn on you like a pack of wolves.
I agree. It's ridiculous.
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Old 01-01-2017, 00:08
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I've gone right off Alicia and Ethan since the love triangle story. I didn't think they were great before it, but they didn't irritate me like they do now.
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Old 01-01-2017, 00:09
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A few points I forgot to make earlier: I said last episode that Dylan threatening to fail Seb was the wrong approach and this episode reinforced it. Seb acted on a false premise, as he learns early on that Dylan was exaggerating and he wasn't on the verge of failing at all. Not that Seb's lies are in any way justified but Dylan needs to learn the right way to motivate him and he failed. In a way he is to Seb what Cal is to Ethan...except while Cal actually has done wrong by Ethan, Dylan has merely provoked Seb with what he thinks are good intentions. Of course, it's hard to see what Seb's going to get out of this, and he seems to pretty much be doing damage limitation. Best case scenario for him seems to be that he has to repeat with a new mentor (and what happened to him having to leave if Dylan wasn't willing to mentor him?).

I'd say Ethan has done the opposite of growing a backbone: He's as spineless as Seb, sneaking around and stabbing Cal in the back instead of being open. Without getting on my soapbox, while the reaction to Ethan is mixed, comments on Alicia seem almost wholly negative, sometimes even from people who approve of Ethan which seems like a bit of a double standard. No "Good that Alicia's picked the right brother now", instead it's as if she's perceived as a sex toy that Ethan's taken off his brother.
The reaction of Ethan and Alicia is very positive on twitter and tumblr is very positive - they've even been dubbed 'Eticia'. Not sure about Facebook.
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Old 01-01-2017, 06:37
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The reaction of Ethan and Alicia is very positive on twitter and tumblr is very positive - they've even been dubbed 'Eticia'. Not sure about Facebook.
Well thats an unfortunate name can 2017 be the year merging names ends I hate it. I watched casualty last night for the first time in a while. Don't like the dylan story. As for ethan/cal ffs you guys are brothers there was all that bringing them together stuff ages ago why go back on it. The rest I don't care about either but the little girl that plays connies daughter has got better at acting she was very stage-schooly before or maybe just playing posh it was annoying but she came across good last night
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Old 01-01-2017, 09:11
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The reaction of Ethan and Alicia is very positive on twitter and tumblr is very positive - they've even been dubbed 'Eticia'. Not sure about Facebook.
I'd be intrigued to know what they're actually saying about Alicia as an individual, given that she seems to be completely subsumed by what Ethan or Cal wants. I guess we all see things differently: For me, they've gone from a dull nonsensical potential pairing to a selfish unlikable not-really-pairing-because-she's-still-with-Cal.
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Old 01-01-2017, 09:22
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For Dylan to be treated like that is just beyond belief. He needs Zoe to return to defend him.
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Old 01-01-2017, 09:24
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Well thats an unfortunate name can 2017 be the year merging names ends I hate it. I watched casualty last night for the first time in a while. Don't like the dylan story.
I couldn't agree more. I find the name merging to be quite infantile and ridiculous.

I think the Dylan storyline had potential to be quite good if handled the right way but sadly that's not what they are doing.
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Old 01-01-2017, 09:29
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Elle was put in a difficult situation and she had no choice but to follow procedure. Dylan wasn't honest with her when he said there was no physical contact, although he may have forgotten about that hug. Max doesn't believe Seb and he's on Dylan's side so I think he will play a part in exonerating Dylan. Excellent acting from Will Beck as usual.

Happy New Year everyone
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