Am I alone in thinking that it seems rather a coincidence that the white-haired tutor, so popular with the ladies of the Internet Class, is called Dylan Hopkins, and the man-eating female from the cemetery on Christmas Day, caught by Diane in a compromising situation with Dai, was Shirley Hopkins?

I went on Clic last night and found it.
Thank you thank you sderr - I had no idea it was starting back again.

Don't spoil too much but was it good first episode?

wwww that would be weird....good detective work BTW

I think it is possible. If the Dai, Diane, Shirely storyline from the Xmas episode was brought up again it would really make Iolo's silence look odd. Too weird for me.

just watched last week im sure angela and gaynor are both heading for break downs

I finally figured out how to grab subtitles and convert from XML

I thought I'd post it here in case it could help someone else.

First off - download the program with something like VSO Downloader

Next - open up the webpage's source file. Scroll around until you find the code that actually calls the player and subtitles. Quickest way - do a text search for the word "subtitle"!

Look for the path to the XML file. Here's an example:
"English subtitles:/sami/E_A511468661.xml,Welsh subtitles:/sami/C_A511468661.xml"

The initial "/" means that the file is up a level from the web page you're on.
If I'm starting at:" http://beta.s4c.co.uk/clic/e_level2.shtml?series_id=511459031"
Then the path for the Welsh subs is:
"http://beta.s4c.co.uk/sami/C_A511468661.xml"
Don't forget the "http://" at the beginning. Chrome (at least) doesn't assume it for .xml files.

Once you get the XML page loaded in your browser, just save it to the same folder you put the video file in. You can change the name so something sensible at this point.

To convert the XML to something useful, use the open source and very useful "Subtitle Edit": http://www.nikse.dk/SubtitleEdit/ I used the SubRib (.srt) setting.

Assuming the subtitles are in the same folder as the original video, when you open the video with VLC, the subs will be there if you choose to display them but not if you don't!

My head just exploded but I'm deeply impressed!

It was very good.
It was the first time I watched on Clic. I had it on full screen and was knitting on my couch watching it last night. Hubby watched it this morning. LOL

I must have missed an episode about the computer class. What day was it shown?

Thursday 9 January, episode 209
Dai was rather disinterested, and did a crossword instead.

Interesting the way Eileen's attitude towards Sioned after her breakdown is coming back to haunt her. She doesn't seem to get why Sioned is so angry and blames Angela for it.

I still cannot believe Iolo can't refuse to go with Kevin. Honestly please, he doesn't want to look rude after Colin invited him... I find that all rather unbelievable. If Iolo believes Kevin raped Sheryl he would just turn him down. Why does he need to explain this to Colin at all

Where has Lois gone? Sheryl hasn't been seen for weeks. Is Cadno still in it? Last seen Christmas Day! Did Kevin actually rape Sheryl, and if so, why? Why hasn't he been punished? Why does Iolo even care? When did Kevin and Debbue split and why?

So many questions.

Start with the easy one first. Lois goes to University in Cardiff and was only home for the Christmas holiday. She went back last week. Lois is only a reoccurring character- you never see much of her.

In real life the actress who plays Cadno is on maternity leave. Although PYC actresses have a habit of not returning after leaving for maternity leave.

Yes Kevin raped Sheryl in June the day before he was to marry Debbie. Kevin was in love with Sheryl, they once were to be married but, Sioned hit him with a car while driving underage and drunk and he had a stroke. Sheryl fell out of love with him while caring for him and they split. In the end Kevin was not enough of a bad boy for her, she like men like Garry and Gethin although she pretends not to. So Kevin realizing Sheryl would probably never be with him started a relationship with Debbie. He didn't love her but he did like her and they agreed to be married.

Meic Kevin's father never trusted Debbie so he asked Sheryl to test their relationship before the wedding. So Sheryl agreed to spend a lot of time with her old friend the week before Kevin was to marry Debbie. Kevin misinterpreted this and thought Sheryl wanted to be with him again. He went to the salon the day before the wedding found Sheryl vacuuming the floor and told her she wanted to be with her. She clearly told him no, Kevin didn't listen to her pushed her on the sofa and forced himself on her.

Debbie and Kevin split well because Kevin told her he raped Sheryl on the day before her wedding. She tried to stay with him long enough to get his money. When she could take it no more she demanded he give her his business in return for not turning him into the police.

Iolo cares about this not because of Kevin, Sheryl and Debbie but because his brother Macs was drugged and violently raped 2 years ago. Macs has never recovered from this. For a while this effected Iolo very deeply. Very few people know this, its a secret that the Whites have. Macs was driven out of the village by an angry mob because he has hep B and slept with women without telling them. He believed he got the Hep B from the rape and he can't deal with it or talk about. Basically the rape destroyed him and he had a mental breakdown, as you saw in the Christmas episode. Oh Iolo apparently has told nobody this.

Hope that helps a bit.

Thank you so much sderr. I'm very grateful.

No problem :.

Oh you asked why Kevin isn't in jail. Sheryl reported the rape but withdrew it. Kevin went around to Garry's flat to speak with her and told her he was going to fight the complaint and wouldn't admit what he'd done. She got enraged and battered him with an iron. Knocked him out cold. She might have been OK if she had called 999 right away like Garry wanted to but she didn't. She thought he was dead and she convinced Garry to go bury him somewhere. So they taped him up in a rug threw him in the boot of Garry's car and were going to bury him alive. But Garry didn't leave to do this right away and Kevin woke up in the car wrapped in a rug next to a shovel.

Debbie made Sheryl withdraw the complaint about the rape when she found out what Sheryl had done. She threatened to tell the police. It was harsh, but on the other hand it probably saved Sheryl from prison. I can't believe a Kevin would have really agreed to go to prison for rape without saying anything about the attempted murder.

he scared the living day lights out of me as i thought kevin was dead lol

Wow. That sounds spectacularly grim.

And they complain about the rape on Hollyoaks. Hollyoaks got nothing on the sick and twisted rape and sexual abuse stories on PYC.

I have to agree. I also think the show could do with a new family, and get rid of the deadwood - namely Kevin, Debbie, Ed, Gemma and Mark. They add nothing whatsoever to the show, and in some cases, detract from it!

I would also like them to resolve some of these rape storylines. I know that the victims are not entirely sympathetic but it just doesn't take away how horrifyingly violent and brutal those crime where. To have a whole community of people act like its no big deal because the victim wasn't very nice is disturbing to me. Also its hard to blame people from acting out when crimes like that are ignored completely.

I agree completely. It's disgusting that Moc just got away unpunished and we're supposed to still like Kevin?

Yeah, the Moc storyline was one of the most sick sad storylines I have ever seen on a soap. I think some viewers want Gethin gone because its just so hard to really watch or deal with that story. Easier to wrap your head around Gethin being a nasty person.

Wow Sderr, thanks for all the background, that was extensive..
Just a little correction: it's known in the village that Macs was raped: he told it in court when he was charged with GBH and it appeared in the newspaper. What only the Whites and Gaynor's family know is that the rapist was Scott.

No I don't think most of the village does. Something appeared in paper but I think it was only that Macs received a suspended sentence for ABH. It the only explanation for why no one has ever reacted to it. Why people continuously talk about Izzy as if that crime is much much worse than what happened to Macs. Why Macs refused to tell Jinx and Ffion that he was ill. As he said he didn't want anyone to know how he got Hep B.

Actually that makes sense I never did understand why the paper would name him as a rape victim.. papers don't normally reveal the names of rape victims.