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Old 04-11-2013, 17:21
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I'm not connecting the two criticisms: the poor writing is a completely separate issue to the issue of the same faces appearing in every S4C drama.

I appreciate that there are probably relatively few Welsh-speaking actors available, but that doesn't really excuse the same dozen or so people appearing in almost every drama series that is shown on S4C. I don't think there was a single character in Y Gwyll who was not well-known from other drama series. Surely, there must be some talented young actors trying to break into the business who would deserve that break.
There is a lot of money being spent on Y Gwyll, it is being sold internationally. I don't think putting a bunch of untried new comers in the biggest Welsh production in years would be wise. What if they were all horrible? This is an opportunity to expose Welsh drama to a wider audience who won't know the actors. It might be an interesting experiment for you, but who could take a risk in having a massive failure when so much money was on the line? I can definitely tell the difference between an actor who has had very little experience and training and one that has had years of training and experience.
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Old 04-11-2013, 21:57
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There is a lot of money being spent on Y Gwyll, it is being sold internationally. I don't think putting a bunch of untried new comers in the biggest Welsh production in years would be wise. What if they were all horrible? This is an opportunity to expose Welsh drama to a wider audience who won't know the actors. It might be an interesting experiment for you, but who could take a risk in having a massive failure when so much money was on the line? I can definitely tell the difference between an actor who has had very little experience and training and one that has had years of training and experience.
That would be a valid argument if all the actors were particularly good, but I really don't think they are. Most of them are from soaps and other lowbrow dramas such as Caerdydd, Gwaith/Cartref and Teulu, and are not particularly convincing in anything they appear in.

Perhaps future stories will have a few new faces.
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Old 04-11-2013, 22:05
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Rhys is already a father of Lois's baby.
I meant that he doesn't exude paternal qualities. He always seems to have some inner battle with himself.
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Old 04-11-2013, 22:27
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That would be a valid argument if all the actors were particularly good, but I really don't think they are. Most of them are from soaps and other lowbrow dramas such as Caerdydd, Gwaith/Cartref and Teulu, and are not particularly convincing in anything they appear in.

Perhaps future stories will have a few new faces.
I think that is unfair assessment of their skills. Just because someone is new doesn't mean that they would be better. Usually there is a reason that someone has never had a job before. For the few successes you know of unknown casts, how many do you think you have never heard of. Quite a lot.

I have read the articles on the BBC production they are trying to create a Welsh version on Broadchurch or Wallander that could be shown across the UK and internationally. Those productions had well known casts of named actors. The BBC wouldn't have funded a cast of unknown actors in such a high profile production. You know what what they're right not too. I don't think it is really true that any group of random people that had some drama in school could do a better job.
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Old 04-11-2013, 22:29
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I think Gethin being annoying is to get back at her for not forgiving him when he forgave her and also as a sort of new way to get her to talk to him. plus it hurt him when he heard her and Garry talking about him after the attack. And it's an all attention is good attention kind of thing, plus it may be a tactic of if you want me to stop you have to forgive me kind of thing. He does seem to be leaning towards being homosexual again, with his nail polish, dashing tight suits, trying to bond with Iolo etc, I wonder if they're actually going to go down that route as they planted the seeds long ago and PYC tends to plant seeds leave them for a bit then pick them up again months later when you think they've forgotten, some times years after.
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Old 04-11-2013, 22:39
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I think Gethin being annoying is to get back at her for not forgiving him when he forgave her and also as a sort of new way to get her to talk to him. plus it hurt him when he heard her and Garry talking about him after the attack. And it's an all attention is good attention kind of thing, plus it may be a tactic of if you want me to stop you have to forgive me kind of thing. He does seem to be leaning towards being homosexual again, with his nail polish, dashing tight suits, trying to bond with Iolo etc, I wonder if they're actually going to go down that route as they planted the seeds long ago and PYC tends to plant seeds leave them for a bit then pick them up again months later when you think they've forgotten, some times years after.
I think so, I don't this is a bad storyline at all. The tension between Gethin and Dani is normal I think in a situation where one child in a family was a abused and the other wasn't. It would be interesting for them to finally discuss that.

Gethin and Iolo is much better timing now. When it could have been about repressed memories of incest that would have been too much of a yuck factor. Now that Iolo is not so perfect that really helps. Certainly better than Iolo and Rhys. Rhys is as interesting as a block of wood (too me at least).
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Old 05-11-2013, 03:01
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Very interesting spoilers for the next 2 weeks
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Old 05-11-2013, 16:09
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Very interesting spoilers for the next 2 weeks
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*thud*
That was my jaw hitting the ground.
Wow I never saw that coming.

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Old 05-11-2013, 17:03
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*thud*
That was my jaw hitting the ground.
Wow I never saw that coming.

Thanks sderr
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Old 05-11-2013, 20:13
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They did a DNA test ruling that person out though I thought and no we can't have trouble for Garry/Dani already.
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Old 05-11-2013, 22:42
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They did a DNA test ruling that person out though I thought and no we can't have trouble for Garry/Dani already.
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Old 05-11-2013, 23:06
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Was watching that detective series on S4C that is on Tuesday and Thursday evenings.
It is called Ygwll
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Old 06-11-2013, 00:10
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maybe Hywel wanted the truth but someone else didn't and tampered with it/
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Old 06-11-2013, 01:02
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maybe Hywel wanted the truth but someone else didn't and tampered with it/
Possibly, seeing today's refreshed my memory. Arwen was born on Gaynor's birthday. Hwyel was the one who took Ffion to the hospital to give birth. Gaynor was at home she had prepared a romantic evening with Hwyel. Hwyel never showed up. Macs went over to let Gaynor know that he had just returned for a holiday with Sioned. Gaynor made Macs stay with her and drink, and she was trying desperately to force him to sleep with her. At one point she pushed him up against a wall when he was trying to leave. This is when Hwyel walked in, saw them together. Macs ran off and then Gaynor found out Hwyel had been with his ex-wife. She demanded the DNA test and made it clear she would leave Hwyel if he turned out to be the father.

Neither Hwyel or Gaynor are good people I bet one of them did something with that test.
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Old 06-11-2013, 15:32
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Was watching that detective series on S4C that is on Tuesday and Thursday evenings.
It is called Ygwll
No "Y Gwyll". Very well made. As good as any detective series i've seen.
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Old 06-11-2013, 22:14
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I think Sion is getting to be very controlling. Why is it always a black and white choice with him? This just isn't a decision between violent revenge against Gwyneth or complete forgiveness. Forgiveness begins at home. Sion is never really is willing to forgive his own family. I think Iolo is beginning to see through him. If Britt leaves it will be with the children and Iolo won't be far behind.
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Old 07-11-2013, 22:27
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Lookng at Twitter...it appears Rhys Bidder aka macs White will be in Emmerdale shortly
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Old 07-11-2013, 23:35
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Lookng at Twitter...it appears Rhys Bidder aka macs White will be in Emmerdale shortly
Brilliant news. Is it full time or just a guest role?
If it`s full time, I suppose that means the end of Macs White. What a shame
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Old 08-11-2013, 00:02
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Brilliant news. Is it full time or just a guest role?
If it`s full time, I suppose that means the end of Macs White. What a shame
Rhys is looking to move to bigger things. Good luck to him.

I wonder if some of the guessing about an off screen death for Macs might come true. It would one way of dealing with and ending some of the issues with Macs.
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Old 08-11-2013, 01:08
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Rhys is looking to move to bigger things. Good luck to him.

I wonder if some of the guessing about an off screen death for Macs might come true. It would one way of dealing with and ending some of the issues with Macs.
Very true sderr
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Old 08-11-2013, 19:29
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Link to digiguide spoilers:

Some very big things happening this month.
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Old 09-11-2013, 12:31
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good to see going to be good this month
really enjoyed Jim lately
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Old 11-11-2013, 18:07
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Old 11-11-2013, 18:57
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Old 11-11-2013, 19:59
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god if he said them all we need episode for him
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