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He behaved perfectly in the dance off. I suspect much of the bitching over Julien is homophobic. Shameful.
Some people seem to be absolutely obsessed with using the homophobic card at every given opportunity, whilst most of us don't even give it a second thought. I don't see those being negative about Vanessa Feltz being accused of being anti-semitic. |
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He behaved perfectly in the dance off. I suspect much of the bitching over Julien is homophobic. Shameful.
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Maybe people are thinking sensitive, creative gay may would be automatically good dancers ?
and people are surprised when they aint ! |
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From Wiki
"Macdonald was also interested in a career as a dancer, but, instead, studied textiles at the Faculty of Arts and Architecture, Brighton, England.[5] He then became a student at the Royal College of Art, where he gained a Master's Degree." Let's be thankful he chose the right path
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Read what posters say about Julien and remarks about the kind of man he is. If that's not homophobic I don't know what is.
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Yup that was me. Maybe it's a regional thing but I've always thought of blokes as being rough and ready sorts, not little and dainty as Julien is. Sorry, it's not homophobia, it's a difference in word usage obviously. So don't throw accusations around.please.
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Read what posters say about Julien and remarks about the kind of man he is. If that's not homophobic I don't know what is.
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Leaving the ridiculous homophobic debate well alone - unbelievable! - I just wanted to say that I enjoyed Julien's dance. He clearly had worked hard at something he's not very good at and the result , in my eyes, was entertaining. Vanessa was really bad
so Julien definitely deserved to stay. Still have to ff though when he's speaking!
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I honestly don't think you know what homophobia is then, have yet to see any FM bring Julien's sexuality into the reasons they don't like him. Some people don't like him because of his personality, not his sexuality - equally some will like him because of his personality, nothing to do with his sexuality. If you're correct, then where is the dislike of Robin, Julian Clarey, Ian Waite, Colin Jackson etc on these forums?
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Julien was much better in the dance off and therefore deserved to stay. I don't dislike him at all and don't really understand a lot of the venom directed at him.
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If Julien had gone out last night instead of Vanessa it would have been a travesty.
He improved on his original dance in the dance-off. Vanessa did not. I don't find him annoying, he's just different. He behaves differently and reacts differently than most ( his failure to console Tony Jacklyn being a case in point. Very unlikely it was wilfully rude, it probably just didn't occur to him to do so ) Besides, we all knew he was OTT from seeing him on It Takes Two last year. Quelle Surprise! |
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Where are you from? The 1940s lol. Is there only one representation of being a bloke that you feel able to cope with? Oh dear!
I am not and never have been homophobic, which actually means a fear of homosexuality, neither would I ever criticise or judge other people's sexuality. Just stop flogging a dead horse about an innocent remark, grow up. |
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You are threading on dangerous ground now .When you get personal about posters it look very bad for you . Can you not simply express an opinion while respecting that others have theirs .?
and I agree with this poster too
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Why do people not like Julien. He is awesome and I loved him on It Takes Two talking about ruffles, crystals and godees . I don't think he will last much longer though
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Glad there's so much agreement amongst those who dislike Julien! I'm sure he'll be pleased to be spreading the love. Loving the faux indignation, too. What next - some of my best friends are gay lol
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You are threading on dangerous ground now .When you get personal about posters it look very bad for you . Can you not simply express an opinion while respecting that others have theirs .?
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I think Julien has quietened down this week and is all the better for it - he certainly was a better dancer this week in the dance off.
I find OTT people very annoying - and before anyone gets going about this it is a purely personal thing - so did not enjoy his approach in the first week, but I think he is genuinely excited about being on SCD and I can appreciate that, but I hope he continues to tone it down a bit. |
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Get real. Walter invited me to speculate. I did just that without being in any way offensive. I thought he took my comment in his stride without the need for faux outrage.
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Why do people not like Julien. He is awesome and I loved him on It Takes Two talking about ruffles, crystals and godees . I don't think he will last much longer though
![]() I suspect that Strictlys considerable elderly audience find him too OTT to actually warm to him and I reckon he will probably find himself in another dance off next week unless he can up his performance so the judges give him higher marks. |
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By the same token, that sizeable elderly audience embraced Julian Clary, not long after he was in serious bother about some unscripted remarks on live TV. So he was regarded as a risk to cast! As it was, he proved himself willing to give it his best shot and was always amusing in a low key way.
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He behaved perfectly in the dance off. I suspect much of the bitching over Julien is homophobic. Shameful.
![]() He is a terrible dancer and will be gone soon, don't worry about it
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By the same token, that sizeable elderly audience embraced Julian Clary, not long after he was in serious bother about some unscripted remarks on live TV. So he was regarded as a risk to cast! As it was, he proved himself willing to give it his best shot and was always amusing in a low key way.
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Julian Clary was hilarious, I forget his exact answer to Craig when he criticised him, but it was something like, "Oh shut you silly old queen."
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I think that any self respecting gay would feel the same. As I mentioned on another thread, he is like a grotesque caricature of what the average straight felt that was how gay's behaved.
A lot of them can, and will, act camp when appropriate, but they also know there are times when it isn't appropriate. I'm not even convinced Julien's campness is totally genuine; to me it seems like an act. I might be wrong. To give the guy some credit though, he behaved a lot better this week - far less 'shouty' etc., and his dancing had definitely improved. Vanessa showed no improvement and the judges were right to give her the boot, although I much rather have seen Dave go. |
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Get real. Walter invited me to speculate. I did just that without being in any way offensive. I thought he took my comment in his stride without the need for faux outrage.
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so Julien definitely deserved to stay. Still have to ff though when he's speaking!
