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Victor finally picks up an award
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Iknowicould
06-02-2005
Originally Posted by presshardy:
“yeah i know
i have been trying as well
its just when i sink my teeth into something i find it difficult to let go.
and i have a very low tolerance for poor logic.
and people who will not admit to being wrong .... this affects my personal life heavily. but it could be worse. at least i am aware of (some of) my foibles”

I always ask myself one question when in the situation you described above: is this jerk or is this argument/point worth getting banned for?

Answer is always : No. Not by a long shot.

It then becomes easy for me to park it.

Or take a drive down another thread. Easy thing to do, as there are plenty of threads.

But my main survival tactic on this forum is to avoid getting riled by some FMs who deliberately seek you out to do just that.

It is the easiest thing for me to just avoid replying to their posts totally. The temptation to retaliate is greatly reduced by the option to report the offending post.
presshardy
06-02-2005
Originally Posted by Deerd:
“Maybe Dany was sometimes, also, aware but followed the offence-defence adage - i don't know...”

my "it could be worse" comment wasnt intended as a dig at dany. i just meant its better to know your faults than it is to be unaware

Originally Posted by Deerd:
“Dany frequently seemed muddled (logically - presshardy, you did throw in a few logical fallicies too ”

im not sure what fallicies you mean. i am genuinely interested in what you would consider to be illogical about my posts i mean i did simplify things for comic effect... e.g "there was a disabled person on catchphrase once and i wasnt thinking " i hope roy walker doesn't start cracking tastless jokes about disabled people or just start beating her round the head with a brick...etc." as i had no reason to believe he would and therefore awarded him the benefit of the doubt. i suggest you do the same." other than that sort of thing i thought i was ok
presshardy
06-02-2005
Originally Posted by Iknowicould:
“I always ask myself one question when in the situation you described above: is this jerk or is this argument/point worth getting banned for?

Answer is always : No. Not by a long shot.

It then becomes easy for me to park it.

Or take a drive down another thread. Easy thing to do, as there are plenty of threads.

But my main survival tactic on this forum is to avoid getting riled by some FMs who deliberately seek you out to do just that.

It is the easiest thing for me to just avoid replying to their posts totally. The temptation to retaliate is greatly reduced by the option to report the offending post.”

when you're right you're right.
...fancy getting back to the topic anyone??
na me neither
im not going to comment on banned members anymore...hmmmmm this sounds familiar
Deerd
06-02-2005
Originally Posted by presshardy:
“my "it could be worse" comment wasnt intended as a dig at dany. i just meant its better to know your faults than it is to be unaware



im not sure what fallicies you mean. i am genuinely interested in what you would consider to be illogical about my posts i mean i did simplify things for comic effect... e.g "there was a disabled person on catchphrase once and i wasnt thinking " i hope roy walker doesn't start cracking tastless jokes about disabled people or just start beating her round the head with a brick...etc." as i had no reason to believe he would and therefore awarded him the benefit of the doubt. i suggest you do the same." other than that sort of thing i thought i was ok”

Please know that i'm not looking to place your posts as oppossing to Dany's (stark relief) - not my intention. I explained to you the impression i had over recent weeks. it was an impression (based on the odd point of notable logical weakness) and, as such, was what it was at the time - no biggie, just cracks.

As to the ban: all i can assume is that communications have happened off the boards, with admin, which have resulted in an impasse (resulting in some sanction).
Iknowicould
06-02-2005
So what are Victor's future prospects?

Is he in line to follow the Celebrity this and that route others such as Jade and Nick Bateman have?

I bet Emma is desperate for any kind of notice from the producers of these shows.
Dan Fortesque
06-02-2005
Originally Posted by Iknowicould:
“I bet Emma is desperate for any kind of notice from the producers of these shows.”

Lol and I bet Victor is as well.
Dan Fortesque
06-02-2005
Originally Posted by turnip:
“bring back Dany ok she would win an outstanding achievment award at a pedantics convention, she was as subtle as a pneumatic drill ....... ermmmmmmmm ......

The Dany Way

bring back Dany ”

I agree. IMO, half of the arguments involving Dany wouldn't have occurred if some people didn't feel the need to keep nit-picking over spelling mistakes etc. When people do this it just comes across as being a silly and childish way of trying to score points over other members.
Iknowicould
06-02-2005
Originally Posted by Sleepy Hollow:
“I agree. IMO, half of the arguments involving Dany wouldn't have occurred if some people didn't feel the need to keep nit-picking over spelling mistakes etc. When people do this it just comes across as being a silly and childish way of trying to score points over other members.”

I have to disagree with you. By this time, most forum members know about dyslexia and spelling mistakes to not make an issue out of it. She is certainly not the only forum member with dyslexia.

Do you seriously believe that she does not know the diference between IMPOTENT and IMPORTANT as applied to Victor?

And do you think she does not know the difference when applying it to me - by implying that I am impotent as well in her post when challenged to define it for the record.
Originally Posted by Dany:
“I will let you do that, I am sure you know a lot more about it than I do. After all you are a
Victor fan.
”

Victor = impotent =Victor fan = impotent by her screwed logic.

Dyslexia is always her trump card, to be pulled out to defend her illogic, her intolerance of others' points of view and general lack of respect.
Iknowicould
06-02-2005
Originally Posted by Sleepy Hollow:
“Lol and I bet Victor is as well. ”

I suppose when all else fails, it is always there in the background.

I do not know if he had been offered any roles in these various reality TV shows, but I am sure he will turn up in one. His skits with Junior Simpson in BBLB were hilarious and wetted my appetite for more send-ups like these.

What about Emma? What hope is there for her to earn some serious moolah? Jeff "Cheshire Cat" Jade is drinking all the reality TV milk money, and the envy and desperation should set off a plea to these producers for some of the action.

Maybe her part in Fight Night is more injurious to her prospects than her fans realise at the time.
presshardy
06-02-2005
Originally Posted by Sleepy Hollow:
“I agree. IMO, half of the arguments involving Dany wouldn't have occurred if some people didn't feel the need to keep nit-picking over spelling mistakes etc. When people do this it just comes across as being a silly and childish way of trying to score points over other members.”

i think your giving her too much credit. it was rare that people pulled her up over spelling mistakes. it didnt happen often at all... if you dont feel this is true please have a look back at the threads she played the dyslexia card and post any examples of childish nit-picking to her - i'll double it with examples of her pedantism
Iknowicould
06-02-2005
Originally Posted by presshardy:
“..if you dont feel this is true please have a look back at the threads she played the dyslexia card and post any examples of childish nit-picking to her - i'll double it with examples of her pedantism”

I have no doubt you will surpass yourself and triple it.
Iknowicould
06-02-2005
Originally Posted by turnip:
“he looked so cute in his Buttons costume :sleep: got a little overexcited and seemed to forget the sad gangsta act nothing more fabricated than his DR routine Shell done nothing to deserve still being there whereas he had given us entertainment by attempting to wet Emma

He just wasnt up to scratch and is insignificant next to the great Ahmed :sleep:

even Jason had the brains to outdo Victor. He sat there so innocently in his vicar costume as Victor rattled up the phone bills via turning his abuse from Emma onto big Shell instead ”

Attemting to wet Emma? You mean atempting to make her cry?

But she did cry - at least in the bedsit - cry with rage and inconsolable grief (as Michelle tried in vain to calm her down and stop her hyperventilating and choking on her own words) at been called out for what she later showed on Fight Night.

Big Shell?

Shell "striped beaver" is big?

How?
turnip
06-02-2005
Originally Posted by presshardy:
“i think your giving her too much credit. it was rare that people pulled her up over spelling mistakes. it didnt happen often at all... if you dont feel this is true please have a look back at the threads she played the dyslexia card and post any examples of childish nit-picking to her - i'll double it with examples of her pedantism”

well to be fair, many people pulled her up about her spelling last year before she started using a voice machine. If I couldnt read her posts I didnt try reading them. Others liked to point her spelling out for some reason. Im guessing you would have done the same as me and not read them. Im also guessing Dany should have had a voice machine a long time ago (I got into a debate about this coz I guessed the technology wasnt up to scratch or they were too expensive).

on the other hand she does start arguments and her pedantry is legendary

having said that, anyone who gets invovled in a long term issue with her is wasting time IMHO (except the people who tried to point out to her that Shell and Marco were genuine and also any Victor fans when she was on a Victor rant I suppose)
turnip
06-02-2005
Originally Posted by Iknowicould:
“I have no doubt you will surpass yourself and triple it. ”

IIRC you also made an issue when 2 HMs started posting (one not verified but seeming genuine ?). The scenario was quite similar to Danys mistake on this issue ?

Dany uses a voice machine and sometimes it picks up words wrong. I reckon "impotent" was a mistake and then Dany tried to make a joke of it but you were pedantic about it. I would have guessed it was a mistake, as Im guessing most people here would.

Anyhow, apart from the Shell/Marco thread, I reckon its best to steer clear when Dany is looking for a fight (as misspancras was able to not take the bait in this thread when Dany started about the "wannabee gangsta" thing. Having said that, Dany was correct. I said "sad gangsta act" )
Last edited by turnip : 06-02-2005 at 17:57
Iknowicould
06-02-2005
Originally Posted by turnip:
“IIRC you also made an issue when 2 HMs started posting (one not verified but seeming genuine ?). The scenario was quite similar to Danys mistake on this issue ?

Dany uses a voice machine and sometimes it picks up words wrong. I reckon "impotent" was a mistake and then Dany tried to make a joke of it but you were pedantic about it. I would have guessed it was a mistake, as Im guessing most people here would.”

With me as the lone exception? Was it malicious of me to have sought a clarification of her remarks, knowing how viciously she hated Victor and not wanting her to hide behind her "dyslexia mistake"?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iknowicould

Important award. That is what you mean?

Because impotent means something else entirely.

And Victor is definitely not impotent.
Originally Posted by Dany:
“I am dyslexic and proud; however in this case I think I got it right first time round; impotent suits victor fair better than important. ”

Since when did you begin to read her mind?
turnip
06-02-2005
Originally Posted by Iknowicould:
“Since when did you begin to read her mind?”

I have seen her dictation machine make mistakes like that before.

The point is that pedantry(sp?) is everywhere and after a while the sensible thing to do is to avoid it.

I dont have anything against you, but I have you down as a pedant too and can be capable of starting off things out of nothing ?

Its no big deal. I usually just avoid it after a while (I hope).

On the other hand, possibly the board wouldnt survive the year round without pedantry. Its all about picking and choosing I suppose.
presshardy
06-02-2005
Originally Posted by turnip:
“
having said that, anyone who gets invovled in a long term issue with her is wasting time IMHO (except the people who tried to point out to her that Shell and Marco were genuine..”

that was when it all started for me and her
aaah the memories (sniff)
Iknowicould
06-02-2005
Originally Posted by turnip:
“I have seen her dictation machine make mistakes like that before.

I dont have anything against you, but I have you down as a pedant too and can be capable of starting off things out of nothing ?”

Great. Excellent. What a stupendous revelation!

"Her machine makes mistakes". She herself, never does. And never needs to apologise either when caught out.

Like when my keyboard makes mistakes and decides - on its own - to call a FM impotent. Or worse.

As I am not dyslexic, what can I blame it on?

Pedantry?
Informer
06-02-2005
Originally Posted by Iknowicould:
“So what are Victor's future prospects?

Is he in line to follow the Celebrity this and that route others such as Jade and Nick Bateman have?
”

....minicab driver.
turnip
06-02-2005
Originally Posted by presshardy:
“that was when it all started for me and her
aaah the memories (sniff) ”

she used to do brief one-line posts last year during BB asking what Dan was up to in the WHATM thread (she didnt have the feeds). That was before she had a dictation machine. People were complaining all the time about it instead of just reading it or ignoring it. There was a hooha about it. Admittedly her style was apparent even then

I never read the disabled HMs thread coz I knew what it would be like

Dont worry Dany soon you will be out the sin-bin
Iknowicould
06-02-2005
Originally Posted by turnip:
“IIRC you also made an issue when 2 HMs started posting (one not verified but seeming genuine ?)”

What or which issue are you on about?
metafis
09-02-2005
Originally Posted by Iknowicould:
“As I am not dyslexic, what can I blame it on?

Pedantry?”

Try the pony express.

Anyway, back to topic. Did Victor accept his award? , did he make a speech?, do we know who he is now?.
lulu g
09-02-2005
Originally Posted by metafis:
“Try the pony express. ...”

Either that or the boogie.
Iknowicould
09-02-2005
Originally Posted by lulu g:
“ Either that or the boogie.”

I will take the boogie. Always fun to also blame it on the boogieman.
metafis
09-02-2005
And what did Francis Rossi ever do to you?

Token Victor comment to stay on topic. Is he still acting the gangsta?, or has he accepted the malted milk of human kindness?
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