Jonathan Creek had an impressive timeshift, it will defintely be the top twenty if not the top ten. I would imagine that another special is on the cards for Christmas.
The Ratings Thread (Part 3 (2))
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Originally Posted by rzt:
“I can't say where I got it from, I'm afraid.
Yep, I've noticed that The One Show often goes down in the officials. It particularly goes down on Tuesdays when EE follows it. But still, it pulls in a reliable 4.5-5.5m which is very good. The BBC really used to have problems in the 7pm slot, but TOS has sorted it out now.
Looking at those latest BARB officials, fantastic for Jonathan Creek. Could possibly get into the Top 10 by the end of the year. Top 20 is a definite I reckon.”
“I can't say where I got it from, I'm afraid.
Yep, I've noticed that The One Show often goes down in the officials. It particularly goes down on Tuesdays when EE follows it. But still, it pulls in a reliable 4.5-5.5m which is very good. The BBC really used to have problems in the 7pm slot, but TOS has sorted it out now.
Looking at those latest BARB officials, fantastic for Jonathan Creek. Could possibly get into the Top 10 by the end of the year. Top 20 is a definite I reckon.”
I sometimes think though that it's a bit lazy just to have the same show running all year. If they tried something else it could rate higher and that goes for ITV as well.
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“I sometimes think though that it's a bit lazy just to have the same show running all year. If they tried something else it could rate higher and that goes for ITV as well.”
“I sometimes think though that it's a bit lazy just to have the same show running all year. If they tried something else it could rate higher and that goes for ITV as well.”
Or lower, as in tha case of Anne Frank. Not to say it wasn't worth doing...
K
Originally Posted by rzt:
“The One Show Overnight Ratings
Mon 12 Jan: 5.21m (24%)
Tue 13 Jan: 5.0m (23.7%)
Very good rating for TOS.”
“The One Show Overnight Ratings
Mon 12 Jan: 5.21m (24%)
Tue 13 Jan: 5.0m (23.7%)
Very good rating for TOS.”
Bad result for the Tuesday One Show outing despite it having an Eastenders follow on which artifically boosted its overnights & will be adjusted out in the finals. So it looks like The One Show is going in reverse.
Originally Posted by KennyT:
“Or lower, as in tha case of Anne Frank. Not to say it wasn't worth doing...
K”
“Or lower, as in tha case of Anne Frank. Not to say it wasn't worth doing...
K”
True, but it was nice to see something different there for a week. As much as I love The One Show I do miss the days of variety on both channels between Monday and Friday at 7pm.
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“I sometimes think though that it's a bit lazy just to have the same show running all year. If they tried something else it could rate higher and that goes for ITV as well.”
“I sometimes think though that it's a bit lazy just to have the same show running all year. If they tried something else it could rate higher and that goes for ITV as well.”
Yes, it's incredibly lazy television. I much preferred the 7pm slot on BBC One when they offered a variety of different programming rather than the same magazine programme for 49 weeks of the year. But I suppose it serves it's purpose so it won't be going anyway.
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Bad result for the Tuesday One Show outing despite it having an Eastenders follow on which artifically boosted its overnights & will be adjusted out in the finals. So it looks like The One Show is going in reverse.”
“Bad result for the Tuesday One Show outing despite it having an Eastenders follow on which artifically boosted its overnights & will be adjusted out in the finals. So it looks like The One Show is going in reverse.”
It's not bad in my opinion. Even if it was artificially boosted by about 0.2m due to EastEnders, it a good result against Emmerdale (which is going to be hitting its best numbers for the year right now).
The One Show is well up on the same time last year. It's a show which will build momentum through the year, and I think will end of this year with high 5's. I do also think it will beat Emmerdale at some point.
One of the reasons Emmerdale's ratings aren't being dented right now is because there's so many people watching television at the moment. Come Q3/Q4, TOS will be closer.
Originally Posted by Agent F:
“Yes, it's incredibly lazy television. I much preferred the 7pm slot on BBC One when they offered a variety of different programming rather than the same magazine programme for 49 weeks of the year. But I suppose it serves it's purpose so it won't be going anyway.”
“Yes, it's incredibly lazy television. I much preferred the 7pm slot on BBC One when they offered a variety of different programming rather than the same magazine programme for 49 weeks of the year. But I suppose it serves it's purpose so it won't be going anyway.”
I used to love the quizzes and sitcoms you'd get. Monday you could watch Telly Addicts or The Krypton Factor, This Is Your Life on ITV on a Wednesday, Play Your Cards Right on a Friday. To be honest both channels are taking the cheap option.
Originally Posted by Agent F:
“I've heard it all now.
”
“I've heard it all now.
”
Even I can't believe I'm saying that now!!!
I ripped into The One Show when it started and how bad Adrian Chiles and Nadia Sawalha were, and then how bad Adrian Chiles and Myleene Klass were. But when Myleene went on maternity leave. decided not to return and Christine Bleakley came in as her replacement the whole thing suddenly clicked into place and started working.
When Sir Roger Moore asks to come on because he's a fan the show, it must be doing something right.
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“When Sir Roger Moore asks to come on because he's a fan the show, it must be doing something right.”
“When Sir Roger Moore asks to come on because he's a fan the show, it must be doing something right.”
Pensioners love the show!
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Bad result for the Tuesday One Show outing despite it having an Eastenders follow on which artifically boosted its overnights & will be adjusted out in the finals. So it looks like The One Show is going in reverse.”
“Bad result for the Tuesday One Show outing despite it having an Eastenders follow on which artifically boosted its overnights & will be adjusted out in the finals. So it looks like The One Show is going in reverse.”
I think its a bit premature to be saying The One Show is "going into reverse" after two whole shows - however much you might wish it to be so. Its a long way up on a year ago and breaking 5 million is a good showing in any weeknight slot these days.
I really don't get all the dislike of The One Show. Its a perfectly relaxed, varied and inoffensive magazine show, which often manages to secure some pretty interesting and high profile guests. Besides, what was so great about the way the BBC used the 7pm slot in the past? IIRC, it was mostly just filled with traffic cops-style fly-on-the-wall programmes - frequently repeats. I can only remember Masterchef doing anything like decent business there. It was never compelling or particularly varied TV which is missed much.
I think The One Show judges well what the public wants at that hour of the day. They tried to mix it up with Anne Frank - one of the best TV dramas I've seen in a good while. But it didn't catch on - thats not what people want at 7pm - something simple, mildly interesting and easy to watch - like TOS - seems to be just the ticket.
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Pensioners love the show!”
“Pensioners love the show!
”
How dare you I'm only 36!!
Originally Posted by sn_22:
“I think its a bit premature to be saying The One Show is "going into reverse" after two whole shows - however much you might wish it to be so. Its a long way up on a year ago and breaking 5 million is a good showing in any weeknight slot these days.”
“I think its a bit premature to be saying The One Show is "going into reverse" after two whole shows - however much you might wish it to be so. Its a long way up on a year ago and breaking 5 million is a good showing in any weeknight slot these days.”
You have to remember too that it was off for two weeks and in that time Emmerdale has built up it's viewers again, so The One Show now needs to start building its audience again. But it usually gets around 5 million anyway so it can be seen as a total disaster.
Originally Posted by rzt:
“
Channel 4
18.30- Hollyoaks: 1.56m (7.6%)
20.00- Country House Rescue: 2.25m (9.7%)
21.00- Celebrity Big Brother: 2.96m (12.7%) +1: 285k (1.8%)
22.00- Derren Brown: Evening of Wonders: 2.49m [inc. +1]”
“
Channel 4
18.30- Hollyoaks: 1.56m (7.6%)
20.00- Country House Rescue: 2.25m (9.7%)
21.00- Celebrity Big Brother: 2.96m (12.7%) +1: 285k (1.8%)
22.00- Derren Brown: Evening of Wonders: 2.49m [inc. +1]”
Good night for Channel 4. I was expecting much lower for Derren Brown because of the length and time it was on, but it was really good so well deserved figures there! It would be good to see the breakdown as well. Nice to see Celebrity Big Brother hit 3.3m as well, not at its best but its good to see the audience is still going. Hopefully they can continue to build on that tonight, tomorrow and Friday's first show. It was rubbish to start with so that can be blamed for the initial fall this year but its starting to get good, so hopefully it will continue to climb. But on Monday there is an eviction show which goes head to head with Emmerdale and Corrie. I'm expecting very low figures for Channel 4 (maybe around 2.7m) but because its on at 8pm and not 9pm, I'm sure some will watch it on C4+1 which should inflate the audience somewhat to at least 3.3m.
Originally Posted by rzt:
“One of the reasons Emmerdale's ratings aren't being dented right now is because there's so many people watching television at the moment. Come Q3/Q4, TOS will be closer.”
“One of the reasons Emmerdale's ratings aren't being dented right now is because there's so many people watching television at the moment. Come Q3/Q4, TOS will be closer.”
But the higher total viewership is also benefiting The One Show. The One Show is casual viewing so should benefit more from a higher tv audience actually.
Fantastic night for FIVE with CSI benefiting the rest of the schedule. The CSI brand is as valuable as the soaps are to ITV1-without it FIVE would collapse.
Awful night for ITV1, but as expected for clashing a bog standard episode of Emmerdale for the umpteenth time, renaming a show which has flopped over 3 times now,airing a poor factual programme & repeating an ITV2 show which flopped and didn't do well in reviews. One of the worst ITV schedules I've seen in a long time imo.
The only upside is that within a bad schedule NaT managed 2.2m, nothing spectacular, quite the opposite, but last year if a show was getting poor ratings like 2.4m NaT would struggle to get 1.7m, so the fact the bulletin seems stable over 2m now whatever the lead in is better and probably due to the new viewers sampling it on Monday nights after the thrillers.
Awful night for ITV1, but as expected for clashing a bog standard episode of Emmerdale for the umpteenth time, renaming a show which has flopped over 3 times now,airing a poor factual programme & repeating an ITV2 show which flopped and didn't do well in reviews. One of the worst ITV schedules I've seen in a long time imo.
The only upside is that within a bad schedule NaT managed 2.2m, nothing spectacular, quite the opposite, but last year if a show was getting poor ratings like 2.4m NaT would struggle to get 1.7m, so the fact the bulletin seems stable over 2m now whatever the lead in is better and probably due to the new viewers sampling it on Monday nights after the thrillers.
TOP TWENTY SHOWS 2009 OFFICIAL RATINGS
01 - JONATHAN CREEK - (BBC1 - 01/01/09) - 9.91M
02 - EASTENDERS (BBC1 - 01/01/09) - 9.88M
03 - CORONATION STREET - (ITV1 - 02/01/09) - 9.28M
04 - ANTIQUES ROADSHOW (BBC1 - 04/01/09) - 7.94M
05 - WALLACE AND GROMIT: A MATTER OF LOAF AND DEATH (BBC1 - 01/01/09) - 7.48M
06 - ABOVE SUSPICION (ITV1 - 04/01/09) - 7.31M
07 - EMMERDALE (ITV1 - 01/01/09) - 7.22M
08 - BBC NEWS - (BBC1 - 01/01/09) - 6.88M
09 - CELEBRITY MASTERMIND (BBC1 - 01/01/09) - 6.59M
10 - TOTAL WIPEOUT (BBC1 - 03/01/09) - 6.56M
11 - LARK RISE TO CANDLEFORD (BBC1 - 04/01/09) - 6.53M
12 - CASUALTY (BBC1 - 03/01/09) - 6.41M
13 - DOCTOR WHO CONFIDENTIAL (BBC1 - 03/01/09) - 6.30M
14 - DEMONS (ITV1 - 03/01/09) - 6.27M
15 - FILM: SHREK 2 (BBC1 - 01/01/09) 6.03M
16 - HARRY HILL'S TV BURP COMPILATION (ITV1 - 03/01/09) - 5.98M
17 - CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER (C4 - 02/01/09) - 5.90M
18 - THE NATIONAL LOTTERY - IN IT TO WIN IT (BBC1 - 03/01/09) - 5.86M
19 - THE ROYAL (ITV1 - 04/01/09) - 5.77M
20 - NEW YOU'VE BEEN FRAMED! (ITV1 - 04/01/09) - 5.58M
Will update week-on-week every Wednesday if necessary.
Source: BARB
My guess is that this'll change... a lot over the next few months.
And for the early count:
BBC1 - 12
ITV1 - 7
Channel 4 - 1
TOTAL - 20
01 - JONATHAN CREEK - (BBC1 - 01/01/09) - 9.91M
02 - EASTENDERS (BBC1 - 01/01/09) - 9.88M
03 - CORONATION STREET - (ITV1 - 02/01/09) - 9.28M
04 - ANTIQUES ROADSHOW (BBC1 - 04/01/09) - 7.94M
05 - WALLACE AND GROMIT: A MATTER OF LOAF AND DEATH (BBC1 - 01/01/09) - 7.48M
06 - ABOVE SUSPICION (ITV1 - 04/01/09) - 7.31M
07 - EMMERDALE (ITV1 - 01/01/09) - 7.22M
08 - BBC NEWS - (BBC1 - 01/01/09) - 6.88M
09 - CELEBRITY MASTERMIND (BBC1 - 01/01/09) - 6.59M
10 - TOTAL WIPEOUT (BBC1 - 03/01/09) - 6.56M
11 - LARK RISE TO CANDLEFORD (BBC1 - 04/01/09) - 6.53M
12 - CASUALTY (BBC1 - 03/01/09) - 6.41M
13 - DOCTOR WHO CONFIDENTIAL (BBC1 - 03/01/09) - 6.30M
14 - DEMONS (ITV1 - 03/01/09) - 6.27M
15 - FILM: SHREK 2 (BBC1 - 01/01/09) 6.03M
16 - HARRY HILL'S TV BURP COMPILATION (ITV1 - 03/01/09) - 5.98M
17 - CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER (C4 - 02/01/09) - 5.90M
18 - THE NATIONAL LOTTERY - IN IT TO WIN IT (BBC1 - 03/01/09) - 5.86M
19 - THE ROYAL (ITV1 - 04/01/09) - 5.77M
20 - NEW YOU'VE BEEN FRAMED! (ITV1 - 04/01/09) - 5.58M
Will update week-on-week every Wednesday if necessary.
Source: BARB
My guess is that this'll change... a lot over the next few months.
And for the early count:
BBC1 - 12
ITV1 - 7
Channel 4 - 1
TOTAL - 20
Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“Jonathan Creek had an impressive timeshift, it will defintely be the top twenty if not the top ten. I would imagine that another special is on the cards for Christmas.”
“Jonathan Creek had an impressive timeshift, it will defintely be the top twenty if not the top ten. I would imagine that another special is on the cards for Christmas.”
Also interestingly Marple had a very high timeshift of around 0.8m despite only receiving 3.7m in overnights!! Almost a million viewers on timeshift is great for a show under 4m imo. Just goes to show that ITV shouldn't have scheduled it against JC and waited till the Sunday.
Also the ITV News bulletin at 10pm after the WWTBAM special managed 4.4m.
EDIT: Also on multichannels Demons is the 10th most watched show of the week and the top rated show on ITV2.
Originally Posted by ZoeMcCallister:
“Fantastic night for FIVE with CSI benefiting the rest of the schedule. The CSI brand is as valuable as the soaps are to ITV1-without it FIVE would collapse.”
“Fantastic night for FIVE with CSI benefiting the rest of the schedule. The CSI brand is as valuable as the soaps are to ITV1-without it FIVE would collapse.”
The CSI Franchise is still very strong considering the main show is eight years old. It will be interesting whether the introduction of Laurence Fishburne will affect the ratings.
I know it's unlikely to happen, but I think Five should consider putting NCIS in the post CSI slot, it attracts 2m+ in a difficult Friday slot but with a 3m+ lead in, I think it would retain the majority of it.
Considering The Mentalist is a huge hit in the US, I wonder what slot Five will give it? Personally, I think they should copy what CBS and put it after one of their higher rated shows or use it to establish a new drama block either on Monday or Wednesday. For example:
8pm Ice Road Truckers/Black Gold
9pm The Mentalist
10pm Existing US import or Film
Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“The CSI Franchise is still very strong considering the main show is eight years old. It will be interesting whether the introduction of Laurence Fishburne will affect the ratings.
I know it's unlikely to happen, but I think Five should consider putting NCIS in the post CSI slot, it attracts 2m+ in a difficult Friday slot but with a 3m+ lead in, I think it would retain the majority of it.
Considering The Mentalist is a huge hit in the US, I wonder what slot Five will give it? Personally, I think they should copy what CBS and put it after one of their higher rated shows or use it to establish a new drama block either on Monday or Wednesday. For example:
8pm Ice Road Truckers/Black Gold
9pm The Mentalist
10pm Existing US import or Film”
“The CSI Franchise is still very strong considering the main show is eight years old. It will be interesting whether the introduction of Laurence Fishburne will affect the ratings.
I know it's unlikely to happen, but I think Five should consider putting NCIS in the post CSI slot, it attracts 2m+ in a difficult Friday slot but with a 3m+ lead in, I think it would retain the majority of it.
Considering The Mentalist is a huge hit in the US, I wonder what slot Five will give it? Personally, I think they should copy what CBS and put it after one of their higher rated shows or use it to establish a new drama block either on Monday or Wednesday. For example:
8pm Ice Road Truckers/Black Gold
9pm The Mentalist
10pm Existing US import or Film”
NCIS is ok where it is I think and I doubt it would do much better with a CSI in tbh.
I'm unsure about where The Mentalist will be slotted. ATM there is a lot of US drama on FIVE and they still have House, Greys, 30 Rock to slot in. I like the fact Tuesdays, Fridays and Saturdays are regarded as US nights and the rest usually for factual. I really don't know where The Mentalist will go but I'm guessing FIVE will change it to a high profile slot after seeing the ratings in the US.
Originally Posted by ZoeMcCallister:
“NCIS is ok where it is I think and I doubt it would do much better with a CSI in tbh.
I'm unsure about where The Mentalist will be slotted. ATM there is a lot of US drama on FIVE and they still have House, Greys, 30 Rock to slot in. I like the fact Tuesdays, Fridays and Saturdays are regarded as US nights and the rest usually for factual. I really don't know where The Mentalist will go but I'm guessing FIVE will change it to a high profile slot after seeing the ratings in the US.”
“NCIS is ok where it is I think and I doubt it would do much better with a CSI in tbh.
I'm unsure about where The Mentalist will be slotted. ATM there is a lot of US drama on FIVE and they still have House, Greys, 30 Rock to slot in. I like the fact Tuesdays, Fridays and Saturdays are regarded as US nights and the rest usually for factual. I really don't know where The Mentalist will go but I'm guessing FIVE will change it to a high profile slot after seeing the ratings in the US.”
I have a feeling Grey's Anatomy will be shunted to a 11pm slot as it did really poorly with a House lead in and likewise 30 Rock which may be loved by critics but it's too niche to be embrace by mainstream audiences.
Originally Posted by ZoeMcCallister:
“EDIT: Also on multichannels Demons is the 10th most watched show of the week and the top rated show on ITV2.”
“EDIT: Also on multichannels Demons is the 10th most watched show of the week and the top rated show on ITV2.”
7,168,000 total for Demons incl. ITV1, ITV2 and ITV2+1
I've just found some Big Brother officials on IBB, it actually performed quite well
Launch- 6.1m (up from 5.7m)
Saturday 3rd- 3.4m (up from 3.1m)
Sunday 4th- 3.6m (up from 3.3m)
Its likely that some shows in the first week will break 4m with the rest being very close.
I just realised how much I go on about BB ratings, I do apologise
Launch- 6.1m (up from 5.7m)
Saturday 3rd- 3.4m (up from 3.1m)
Sunday 4th- 3.6m (up from 3.3m)
Its likely that some shows in the first week will break 4m with the rest being very close.
I just realised how much I go on about BB ratings, I do apologise
Tuesday 13th January 2009
8:00
ABC Homeland Security USA 6.04m
CBS NCIS 18.48m
NBC The Biggest Loser 8.75m
FOX American Idol (2 hours, season 8 premiere) 30.07m
CW 90210 2.18m
9:00
ABC Scrubs 4.63m
CBS The Mentalist 18.09m
CW Privileged 1.13m
9:30
ABC Scrubs 4.33m
10:00
ABC Primetime: What Would You Do? 7.25m
CBS Without a Trace 12.39m
NBC Law & Order: SVU 9.66m
American Idol (Fox)
8:00 p.m. - Viewers: 18.04 million
8:30 p.m. Viewers: 29.98 million
9:00 p.m. Viewers: 32.76 million
9:30 p.m. Viewers: 32.59 million
[LIST][*]Compared to its year-ago season opener (33.41 million on Jan. 15, 2008, based on the final nationals), that was a decrease of 3.34 million.[/LIST]The Biggest Loser (NBC)
8:00 p.m. Viewers: 7.75 million
8:30 p.m. Viewers: 8.18 million
9:00 p.m. Viewers: 9.16 million
9:30 p.m. Viewers: 9.93 million
[LIST][*]Homeland Security USA took a hit from idol from it's series premier it decrease by 1.73 million.
[*]Scrubs, meanwhile got crushed in the 9pm.
[*]CBS did amazing well against American Idol.[/LIST]
8:00
ABC Homeland Security USA 6.04m
CBS NCIS 18.48m
NBC The Biggest Loser 8.75m
FOX American Idol (2 hours, season 8 premiere) 30.07m
CW 90210 2.18m
9:00
ABC Scrubs 4.63m
CBS The Mentalist 18.09m
CW Privileged 1.13m
9:30
ABC Scrubs 4.33m
10:00
ABC Primetime: What Would You Do? 7.25m
CBS Without a Trace 12.39m
NBC Law & Order: SVU 9.66m
American Idol (Fox)
8:00 p.m. - Viewers: 18.04 million
8:30 p.m. Viewers: 29.98 million
9:00 p.m. Viewers: 32.76 million
9:30 p.m. Viewers: 32.59 million
[LIST][*]Compared to its year-ago season opener (33.41 million on Jan. 15, 2008, based on the final nationals), that was a decrease of 3.34 million.[/LIST]The Biggest Loser (NBC)
8:00 p.m. Viewers: 7.75 million
8:30 p.m. Viewers: 8.18 million
9:00 p.m. Viewers: 9.16 million
9:30 p.m. Viewers: 9.93 million
[LIST][*]Homeland Security USA took a hit from idol from it's series premier it decrease by 1.73 million.
[*]Scrubs, meanwhile got crushed in the 9pm.
[*]CBS did amazing well against American Idol.[/LIST]
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