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The Ratings Thread (Part 3 (2))
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Score
19-01-2009
Originally Posted by Cent:
“So will I.

Whoever thought they'd keep the BB audience when Jonathan Ross was returning to BBC1 has made a big mistake.”

Yep. I can see Ross breaking 6m actually, as he's been known to break 5m with big stars before, and an episode with Richard Hammond (his first post-crash interview) got almost 6m. I'll be surprised if BB breaks 4m.
Cent
19-01-2009
Fiver have started advertising Out of the Blue as coming soon.

Looks like they will start again pretty much as soon as BBC2 is done - first episode on Fiver on Monday 2nd February at 7.30pm, repeated 6.45am, 9.30am.

Last episode is on BBC2 a week tomorrow.
Fudd
19-01-2009
Originally Posted by Score:
“I don't think Dancing on Ice was this long (80 mins for 6 couples) last year (I think the 6 couples show was 60-65 mins). They've clearly done it to maximise their ad revenue, and I suppose it makes sense.”

They're sacrificing the show for revenue, whereas last year they were promoting the programme for itself. (as well as for revenue). Sometimes losing some money in revenue is regained in the respect gained for the channel, which'd help in the long run, IMO.
Score
19-01-2009
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“They're sacrificing the show for revenue, whereas last year they were promoting the programme for itself. (as well as for revenue). Sometimes losing some money in revenue is regained in the respect gained for the channel, which'd help in the long run, IMO. ”

I can't see it having an effect on the show. The X Factor is scheduled in the same way and has just had its best ever series.
Dancc
19-01-2009
Originally Posted by Cent:
“Fiver have started advertising Out of the Blue as coming soon.

Looks like they will start again as soon as BBC2 is done.

Last episode is on BBC2 a week tomorrow.”

In Australia, Ten have cut it down to one episode per week every Sunday at 6pm. Just 171,000 watched last night's episode whilst Seven and Nine's respective news bulletins which aired at the same time had over 1.3m each. Ouch.

Hopes of a recommission fading fast. Always a longshot though.

To be honest I think it will probably do okay for Fiver; perhaps around the 100-200k mark, nothing special but at the same time not exactly awful, the idea is obviously to create a bit of an aussie block to build on the success achieved already with the first look H&A/Neighbours catchup pairing.
jde-tv
19-01-2009
Originally Posted by lostinlost2:
“Sunday 18th January 2009

7:00 p.m.
ABC – America’s Funniest Home Videos
Viewers: 5.82 million
CBS – AFC Championship: Baltimore at Pittsburgh
Viewers: 40.93 million
NBC – Dateline
Viewers: 5.39 million
Fox – Hole in the Wall (return, new time period)
Viewers: 3.52 million
CW – Jericho (R)
Viewers: 702,000

7:30 p.m.
ABC – America’s Funniest Home Videos
Viewers: 7.49 million
CBS – AFC Championship: Baltimore at Pittsburgh
Viewers: 37.94 million
NBC – Dateline
Viewers: 6.08 million
Fox – Hole in the Wall
Viewers: 3.24 million
CW – Jericho (R)
Viewers: 766,000

8:00 p.m.
ABC – Extreme Makeover: Home Edition
Viewers: 7.98 million
CBS – AFC Championship: Baltimore at Pittsburgh
Viewers: 39.34 million
NBC – Dateline
Viewers: 5.73 million
Fox – The Simpsons (R)
Viewers: 3.84 million
CW – Movie: Mr. Mom (R)
Viewers: 1.03 million

8:30 p.m.
ABC – Extreme Makeover: Home Edition
Viewers: 9.25 million
CBS – AFC Championship: Baltimore at Pittsburgh
Viewers: 33.82 million
NBC – Dateline
Viewers: 5.95 million
Fox – The Simpsons (R)
Viewers: 4.85 million
CW – Movie: Mr. Mom (R)
Viewers: 1.28 million

9:00 p.m.
ABC – Desperate Housewives (100th episode)
Viewers: 12.88 million
CBS – AFC Championship: Baltimore at Pittsburgh
Viewers: 36.08 million
NBC – SNL Presidential Bash (R)
Viewers: 5.13 million
Fox – Family Guy (R)
Viewers: 4.75 million
CW – Movie: Mr. Mom (R)
Viewers: 1.33 million

9:30 p.m.
ABC – Desperate Housewives (100th episode)
Viewers: 13.13 million
CBS – AFC Championship: Baltimore at Pittsburgh
Viewers: 34.34 million
NBC – SNL Presidential Bash (R)
Viewers: 4.49 million
Fox – Family Guy (R)
Viewers: 4.97 million
CW – Movie: Mr. Mom (R)
Viewers: 1.33 million

10:00 p.m.
ABC – Brothers & Sisters
Viewers: 9.03 million
CBS – AFC Championship: Baltimore at Pittsburgh
Viewers: 31.91 million
NBC – SNL Presidential Bash (R)
Viewers: 4.79 million

10:30 p.m.
ABC – Brothers & Sisters
Viewers: 8.85 million
CBS – The Mentalist
Viewers: 15.06 million
NBC – SNL Presidential Bash (R)
Viewers: 5.03 million
[LIST][*]FOX ran repeats and NBC aired two hours of Dateline followed by a rerun of the Saturday Night Live Presidential Bash.
[*]Desperate Housewives averaged just 13.01 million
[*]The Mentalist only aired for about 15 minutes in prime time on the East Coast (from roughly 10:45p-11p)[/LIST]
ABC looks like their in trouble with two of their highest rated shows getting down to just 13 million. (DH and GA)
It will be interesting to see how LOST premiers on Thursday.


PS. Sorry for the way it's laid out.
I laid it out how I normally do it, but I accidently deleted it all. So I couldn't be bothered to do it all again.”

IMO ABC is stupid for showing new episodes agains CBS? why waist them! The 100th episode could of had anything up to 18m viewers on a normal sunday!
Fudd
19-01-2009
Originally Posted by Score:
“I can't see it having an effect on the show. The X Factor is scheduled in the same way and has just had its best ever series.”

The X Factor is a Saturday night show, where children are more likely to be allowed to stay up until late to see the Results show. Dancing on Ice is pushing family viewing to the limit with the 9.30 results show, which is resulting in the loss of over 2m from one show to the next.
Jonwo
19-01-2009
In regard to US ratings, it will be interesting how Lie to Me does on FOX, it has a great lead in with American Idol, the premise is very interesting and it's got a decent cast. I would imagine that Five and Sky1 would be interested in picking it up.
mattpinder
19-01-2009
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“The X Factor is a Saturday night show, where children are more likely to be allowed to stay up until late to see the Results show. Dancing on Ice is pushing family viewing to the limit with the 9.30 results show, which is resulting in the loss of over 2m from one show to the next.”

Indeed. here are the under 16's overnight breakdowns for last night's DOI

1st Show - 0.97m (48%)
Results - 0.41m (40%)

Source: www.viewingfigures.com
D.M.N.
19-01-2009
Originally Posted by mattpinder:
“Indeed. here are the under 16's overnight breakdowns for last night's DOI

1st Show - 0.97m (48%)
Results - 0.41m (40%)

Source: www.viewingfigures.com”

Any chance for the 16 to 34 breakdown?
iaindb
19-01-2009
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“The X Factor is a Saturday night show, where children are more likely to be allowed to stay up until late to see the Results show. Dancing on Ice is pushing family viewing to the limit with the 9.30 results show, which is resulting in the loss of over 2m from one show to the next.”

I think you'll find that the X Factor's results show was often 1 or 2 million behind the main show on overnights. The consolidated figures revealed that a large number of people watched the results programme on timeshift. Perhaps the same will hapen with the DoI results show. Consolidated figures for DoI week 1 out on Wednesday.
mattpinder
19-01-2009
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Any chance for the 16 to 34 breakdown? ”

1st Show - 1.12m (21%)
Results - 0.79m (24%)
GeorgeS
19-01-2009
Originally Posted by mattpinder:
“Indeed. here are the under 16's overnight breakdowns for last night's DOI

1st Show - 0.97m (48%)
Results - 0.41m (40%)

Source: www.viewingfigures.com”

Its not really pitched at kids though is it? Isn't that why they axed the ITV2 spin off show, because it didnt hit ITV2's preferred demo's.
D.M.N.
19-01-2009
Thanks for those.

Interesting to see the drop between the main show and the results show. The X Factor had a drop... between the shows... but not that much of a drop.

I hope websites report the Tennis rating (23:50 to whatever; BBC Two) for tonight.
M1010D
19-01-2009
Originally Posted by Agent F:
“Absolutely.

I'm tempted to watch JR myself. I'll only stick with BB out of loyalty.”

Whats wrong with Sky+ing JR? It wont go anywhere lol

I wanted to watch both the JR return and the BB final. Why couldnt BB just last until next Monday?
Dancc
19-01-2009
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“I hope websites report the Tennis rating (23:50 to whatever; BBC Two) for tonight.”

I can't see any tennis coverage on BBC Two from 2350 tonight in the listings?
Thebenster
19-01-2009
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“I can't see any tennis coverage on BBC Two from 2350 tonight in the listings? ”

23.50-04.00: Tennis: Australian Open Live

Live coverage of Andy Murray's first round clash against Romania's Andrei Pavel.
RobbieSykes123
19-01-2009
5.4m for Hunter? - the "BSI" strike again.

Had it gone out at 9.25pm, or debuted tonight, then I reckon it would easily have managed another million.

Mind you, it did have a decent inheritence from Lark Rise, 6.1m is very good against Tits on Ice and African Heartbeat.

Originally Posted by vauxhall1964:
“And the BBC ditch Eurovision? Drop a show that brings them 8 million viewers and a 55% share? Lucky you're not a scheduler.”

I wasn't advocating the Beeb dropping it, just reflecting on whether the UK's participation in the contest could survive yet another year of bloc voting by tiny Balkan/ex-commie states.

Originally Posted by sn_22:
“Average ratings for Hunter, though its not been as well acclaimed as the drama it spun off from. I guess we'll see a fall for it tonight and a comfortable victory for Unforgiven.”

You might well be surprised. Unforgiven got 7m last week because it was up against a Traffic Cops repeat. It has some competition this week, and the 2nd eps of BBC1 2-parters like Waking the Dead and Silent Witness have sometimes shown significantly higher overnights than the debut episode. Meantime, ITV dramas often see their ratings drop like a stone between eps 1 and 2 - ITV1 audiences being fairly fickle I guess, many ITV programmes being default options clearly.

Hunter fell a bit short of what I expected, but I still wouldn't be surprised to see a dead heat with Unforgiven tonight; a narrow Hunter win wouldn't astonish me.

Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“That's pretty good for that film on Sunday at that time isn't it?”

Not just "pretty good", fairly astonishing I'd say for Ice Age 2, and in a tea time slot on ITV1. What did Ice Age 1 get when ITV1 showed that?

Ice Age 2 could be ITV's highest-rated film of 2009, unless they have a Harry Potter coming up in November. Indeed, it will be among ITV's top shows of 2009 I imagine...

Originally Posted by Score:
“They couldn't have ads in Lewis as they used them all earlier in the evening.”

Well, they don't have to show disproportionately more ads during DoI and use up their ration for the night, do they?
RobbieSykes123
19-01-2009
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Meantime, ITV dramas often see their ratings drop like a stone between eps 1 and 2”

Indeed, didn't Unforgiven lose over a million viewers during the course of the hour last Monday? (7.8m down to 6.6m?)
Fudd
19-01-2009
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“5.4m for Hunter? - the "BSI" strike again.

Had it gone out at 9.25pm, or debuted tonight, then I reckon it would easily have managed another million.”

I do wonder about the BBC sometimes. All the time ITV had nothing on a Sunday night, and they broadcast nothing of note. As soon as ITV bring out the big hitters, and suddenly BBC introduce a brand new drama. Why wait so late?

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Mind you, it did have a decent inheritence from Lark Rise, 6.1m is very good against Tits on Ice and African Heartbeat.”

The African version's doing much better than the Yorkshire one.

Actually I think ITV are as good as BBC1 as messing up schedules. I think The Skate Off and Wild at Heart would do better being aired an hour earlier. I remember, though, that BBC1 held up really well against Dancing on Ice last year - it's just DoI's improvement overshadowed BBC1's improvement.

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“I wasn't advocating the Beeb dropping it, just reflecting on whether the UK's participation in the contest could survive yet another year of bloc voting by tiny Balkan/ex-commie states.”

I think we'll enter again in 2010 whatever happens. But I don't know whether we'll have another 'Your Country Needs You'. Especially with Andrew and Graham being tied up with another West End Musical programme.

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“You might well be surprised. Unforgiven got 7m last week because it was up against a Traffic Cops repeat. It has some competition this week, and the 2nd eps of BBC1 2-parters like Waking the Dead and Silent Witness have sometimes shown significantly higher overnights than the debut episode. Meantime, ITV dramas often see their ratings drop like a stone between eps 1 and 2 - ITV1 audiences being fairly fickle I guess, many ITV programmes being default options clearly.”

Or many BBC1 viewers don't own a remote control, so find themselves stuck on the channel. What else explains Parents of the Band doing better than Moving Wallpaper against harder opposition?

The thing is Waking the Dead and Silent Witness are proven and settled dramas, while Hunter is still brand new. However, I do agree in that Hunter has a good chance of beating Unforgiven tonight.

It'll be sad if it does in a way, because ITV1 may move away from new drama even further, as they see no point trying to compete with BBC1, which'll lead to even more reality TV shows to fill in the free slots.

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Not just "pretty good", fairly astonishing I'd say for Ice Age 2, and in a tea time slot on ITV1. What did Ice Age 1 get when ITV1 showed that?”

I'm guessing the Dancing on Ice lead out must have helped a bit. Though I can't imagine ITV1 dreaming of those figures.

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Ice Age 2 could be ITV's highest-rated film of 2009, unless they have a Harry Potter coming up in November. Indeed, it will be among ITV's top shows of 2009 I imagine...”

Coronation Street, Emmerdale, The X Factor, Dancing on Ice, Britain's Got Talent, Champions League Final (if a British entrant involved), FA Cup Final (?), Saturday Night Takeaway, Who Wants to Be A Millionnaire? Special, Trial and Retribution, Unforgiven, Whitechapel, anything that sits in The X Factor sandwich, TV Burp, You've Been Framed and probably The Bill will beat it. What's that? 15 shows then the extras from The X Factor sandwich. It will be in the top 30, I think. But then, anything rating like that on BBC1 would do the same thing I would've thought.

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Well, they don't have to show disproportionately more ads during DoI and use up their ration for the night, do they? ”

I actually agree with you, Robbie. I think it's nothing short of ridiculous TBH.
Andy23
19-01-2009
I'm not surprised Big Brother is doing so badly, everything about the show seems tired, you've got Davina getting over excited "I'm loving this" etc like she does every single year.

The strength of I'm a Celebrity is that you've got the camp, plus the trials plus Ant and Dec, so if one part is bad the other bits make up for it. With Big Brother you've got the housemates sitting there, boring tasks and just a voice over.
Dancc
19-01-2009
Originally Posted by Thebenster:
“23.50-04.00: Tennis: Australian Open Live

Live coverage of Andy Murray's first round clash against Romania's Andrei Pavel.”

Oops - DigiGuide is wrong then!

EDIT: Just to clarify, in case anyone's wondering, the programmes marked with a love heart are NOT my favourite programmes. I have no idea why DigiGuide has decided that they are. I do not even watch Corrie.
Dancc
19-01-2009
ABC
19:00 ABC News 1,068,000
19:30 The 7.30 Report 701,000
20:00 Choir of Hard Knocks (R) 542,000

Seven
18:00 Seven News 1,443,000
18:30 Today Tonight 1,263,000
19:00 Home and Away 1,263,000
19:30 Australian Open 2009 Day 1 Night 1,164,000
22:00 Australian Open 2009 Day 1 Late Night 534,000 (Finish 00:30)

Nine
18:00 Nine News 1,091,000
18:30 A Current Affair 1,094,000
19:00 Temptation 839,000
19:30 Two and a Half Men (R) 1,027,000
20:00 The Big Bang Theory 1,019,000
20:30 Flashpoint 1,092,000
21:30 Crime Investigation Australia (R) 749,000

Ten
17:00 Ten News at Five 937,000
18:00 The Simpsons (R)
18:30 Neighbours 742,000
19:00 Friends (R) 655,000
19:30 The Simpsons (R) 593,000

SBS
19:30 Top Gear 1,024,000

Source: OzTam
Fudd
19-01-2009
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Oops - DigiGuide is wrong then!

EDIT: Just to clarify, in case anyone's wondering, the programmes marked with a love heart are NOT my favourite programmes. I have no idea why DigiGuide has decided that they are. I do not even watch Corrie.”

According to my Sky EPG for Eurosport Murray v Pavels starts at 12. All depends if they're running to schedule I guess.
Jonwo
19-01-2009
The Australian Open did very well for Seven although I would of thought it would rate a little higher considering sport is very popular Down Under. Nine did well with The Big Bang Theory and Flashpoint and Top Gear is just as popular there as it is here.

Flashpoint has proved popular on CBS successfully filling the Friday 9pm gap that they had been struggling with. It airs here on ITV3 which IMO is the wrong channel for it.
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