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Old 20-10-2013, 11:03
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Pirate Bay’s Anti-Censorship Browser Clocks 1,000,000 Downloads

I've had a bit of a play with it and it's basically Firefox Portable with FoxyProxy and some jiggery pokery so it automatically connects you via TOR.

Seems pretty nippy as well - anyone else tried it ?
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Old 20-10-2013, 11:17
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Whatever the goody goodies put in place, there'll always be someone out there that will come up with a way to get around certain things.
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Old 20-10-2013, 11:35
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Whatever the goody goodies put in place, there'll always be someone out there that will come up with a way to get around certain things.
Yeah, I suggest you unlock your home and car as you can't stop theft can you
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Old 20-10-2013, 11:49
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Pirate Bay’s Anti-Censorship Browser Clocks 1,000,000 Downloads

I've had a bit of a play with it and it's basically Firefox Portable with FoxyProxy and some jiggery pokery so it automatically connects you via TOR.

Seems pretty nippy as well - anyone else tried it ?
Seems a bit pointless since you can already get the TOR bundle that does this.
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Old 20-10-2013, 12:34
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Seems a bit pointless.
1,000,000 downloads says perhaps not.
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Old 20-10-2013, 13:01
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Seems a bit pointless since you can already get the TOR bundle that does this.
I suspect there are probably more people who have heard of the pirate bay than have heard of TOR and also who probably want a simple, all-in-one solution. And as has been said, a million downloads is hardly "pointless"
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Old 20-10-2013, 13:03
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Yeah, I suggest you unlock your home and car as you can't stop theft can you
It's not theft, it's copyright infringement. You can't steal the files because they're still there. Theft is actually taking something. Your comparison is ridiculous because it's completely different.

Edit: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1968/60/section/1
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Old 20-10-2013, 13:20
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I've always felt the distinction between theft and copyright infringement is a bit daft personally. At the end of the day, the creator of the content that's being "infringed" hasn't necessarily created it to be given away for free - they've created it to make money, so you're still kind of taking it without paying even though the law says you're merely "infringing" rather than stealing.

Not that I'm looking to start a whole new round of the toss being argued about it or anything ..
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Old 20-10-2013, 13:57
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I've always felt the distinction between theft and copyright infringement is a bit daft personally. At the end of the day, the creator of the content that's being "infringed" hasn't necessarily created it to be given away for free - they've created it to make money, so you're still kind of taking it without paying even though the law says you're merely "infringing" rather than stealing.
Wrong. You aren't taking anything. What you're doing is copying.
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Old 20-10-2013, 14:50
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I suspect there are probably more people who have heard of the pirate bay than have heard of TOR and also who probably want a simple, all-in-one solution. And as has been said, a million downloads is hardly "pointless"
Either way its still reinventing the wheel. They could have just pointed people at the TOR bundle that has been around for years and does the same thing.

Last time I checked though the TOR circuit was being heavily DDOS'd. I know some blamed it on Anonymous but I wouldn't be half surprised if it was the NSA or similar that were behind it.
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Old 20-10-2013, 15:10
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Wrong. You aren't taking anything. What you're doing is copying.
I was only sharing my own personal thoughts on the difference - i wasn't looking for any kind of discussion about it.
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Old 20-10-2013, 15:18
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half surprised if it was the NSA or similar that were behind it.
Given it was developed by the US government i'd doubt that, but the companies that love to sell fake viagra etc via pr0n sites would probably love to close down where people can get the real stuff for less than they charge
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Old 20-10-2013, 15:32
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I was only sharing my own personal thoughts on the difference - i wasn't looking for any kind of discussion about it.
Fair enough. I thought you were stating the bit in bold.
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Old 20-10-2013, 17:02
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Wrong. You aren't taking anything. What you're doing is copying.
The same old agreements from the freetards.
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Old 20-10-2013, 17:05
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Fair enough. I thought you were stating the bit in bold.
I wasn't, but then what i said still sort of applies. I suspect the creator of the content in question would want anyone who took one, or, let's say, "took a copy", to pay for it.

People can justify copying, downloading or whatever however they like, but they're still depriving the content creator of a degree of revenue.
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Old 20-10-2013, 17:27
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I wasn't, but then what i said still sort of applies. I suspect the creator of the content in question would want anyone who took one, or, let's say, "took a copy", to pay for it.

People can justify copying, downloading or whatever however they like, but they're still depriving the content creator of a degree of revenue.
Assuming they were willing to buy the product in the first place.
The act of illicit downloading suggests perhaps not.
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Old 20-10-2013, 18:01
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Assuming they were willing to buy the product in the first place.
The act of illicit downloading suggests perhaps not.
Still applies though. They had no intention of paying, so the content creator is still getting deprived of revenue. I'm sure many will say "but they still got paid by so-and-so" though, but then who are these people to dictate how much revenue a content creator should or shouldn't get ?

If either of my films I had produced ever got released commercially, I'd want to be paid for them. I wouldn't want some kid saying "well you got paid for the script so why should you earn any more?. i'll just help myself to a copy thanks ..".
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Old 20-10-2013, 18:22
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I wasn't, but then what i said still sort of applies. I suspect the creator of the content in question would want anyone who took one, or, let's say, "took a copy", to pay for it.

People can justify copying, downloading or whatever however they like, but they're still depriving the content creator of a degree of revenue.
Not if they wouldn't have bought it in the first place. You also can't 'take a copy' when it comes to downloading something. Took gives the impression that you've actually taken something.
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Old 20-10-2013, 18:25
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Old 20-10-2013, 19:44
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Not if they wouldn't have bought it in the first place
If someone downloaded the film I wrote that wouldn't have done so otherwise and decided to keep it, i'm still being deprived of revenue.

You also can't 'take a copy' when it comes to downloading something. Took gives the impression that you've actually taken something.
Slightly rhetorical question, but is the person who has uploaded the content "illegally" effectively, saying "here you go everyone, i've uploaded this album so please take a copy if you wish" ?
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Old 20-10-2013, 19:49
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If someone downloaded the film I wrote that wouldn't have done so otherwise and decided to keep it, i'm still being deprived of revenue.



Slightly rhetorical question, but is the person who has uploaded the content "illegally" effectively, saying "here you go everyone, i've uploaded this album so please take a copy if you wish" ?
Download.
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Old 20-10-2013, 19:55
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Semantics.
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Old 20-10-2013, 19:56
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I understand people who say that downloading something like a film and not paying for it is is wrong. I understand people who don't care and will download the film anyway.

What I don't understand is people who try and justify stealing it and making out it's copying or similar and trying to justify that it is ok.
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Old 20-10-2013, 20:04
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I understand people who say that downloading something like a film and not paying for it is is wrong. I understand people who don't care and will download the film anyway.

What I don't understand is people who try and justify stealing it and making out it's copying or similar and trying to justify that it is ok.
I think it's something where the definition needs changing to reflect what's actually happening. If a musician was playing in the street and selling copies of his CD from a guitar case and someone came along, picked one up, stuck it in their laptop and ripped it and then put it back, i'm quite sure that he wouldn't see it as simple "infringement", even though the law would actually say that's exactly what's happened.
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Old 20-10-2013, 20:11
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So are you condoning their actions?
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