Relationship with the doctor is intense. Traveling in the tardis must do stuff to your head. You lose yourself in it. Start to forget who and what you left behind. Will Clara do that next year ?. She did have a life before becoming the "impossible girl".She was looking after them because they had lost their mother her freind . Would like 12 and Clara to at least check in on them. Will she commit to 12 full time or is it still going to be a casual once a week only arangement ?. Answers, ideas ,theories on a postcard please.

Be a little bit weird a man in his 50s traveling around space and time with 2 children and girl in her 20s

Good grief... yes, when Jon Pertwee was the Doctor, the whole country was up in arms about how weird it was, having the actor playing the Doctor travelling around with a girl so much younger than he was. Get a life, please.

Agreed. Very very sad that we now live in a world where adult men can't be around unrelated kids without people raising eyebrows.

I was joking dude.

Agreed about the ridiculous views about age differences between the leading cast, especially back during the Pertwee era.

That said, I'd be quite happy not to see these kids again. They didn't really bring much to Series 7, and I found them incredibly annoying. A shame, as Doctor Who has proven it's not too bad at writing kids in at times

People on have made the same point on here in all seriousness in recent times.

I'm perhaps a bit over sensitive, but I work in primary and junior schools all over my city and barely a week goes by without some school receptionist making a massive show of scrutinising my ID and CRB whilst waving anyone without a Y chromosome through the door.

EDIT: Agree about not wanting to see those kids again!

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo....thanks.

God i hope not, Nightmare in Silver was ruined with the abysmal acting of the children and would ruin for me series 8, unless the episode started with the girls horrific and painfully protracted death

It's strange, but I've read that the original reason Susan was written as the Doctor's granddaughter was because of the 'impropriety' of an old man travelling with an unrelated teenage girl. I can't remember where I saw that, is it not true? Maybe rather than being new, this attitude towards TV characters has simply come full circle.

In 21st century Who, the Doctor (now twice the age of Hartnell's Doctor), has not hesitated to have a non-platonic relationship with a teenage girl, for the first time. Whereas the writing in the Classic series was such that the question wouldn't arise, now some of the audience almost expect it.

Whatever, the two children should, I'd hope, be totally free of that sort of speculation. The real reason they shouldn't travel with the Doctor is because they're talent free equivalents of fingernails being ferociously applied to a blackboard. Unless the programme needs some redshirts to say a single line unconvincingly, before falling prey to the Alien of the week, then I'd rather leave that girl sulking in her bedroom.

its amazing i was thinking the same thing just 10 minutes ago,

I would literally switch off if The Doctor started travelling with annoying brats.

Joking or being serious, each is as bad as the other really. It's a sad sign of the times that comments like this are made regardless or how "serious" they are.

Reminds of the story of hysterical women in a park phoning the police because a father was playing with HIS children and they thought there was something dodgy going on.

I think they should be written out. First episode of Series 8, Clara quits working for the Maitlands, travels with 12 pernamently and we can have her father or a boyfriend/girlfriend as her Earth based contacts.

I don't hate Artie and Angie as characters but I don't really feel they add a lot to the series either and can easily be written out with little fuss.

I don't see the need for either kid next year. It would be a nice way for the Christmas special to wind this up with the dad finding someone to spend time with so Clara can move on.

I think i would be best to leave their performance in nightmare in silver as a one off.. Acting was imo not fantastic, however - to be fair - some of the lines ie 'put me down, I hate you' were totally cringeworthy. i don't know who could have made stuff like that work..
But still, in answer to op, no thanks not for me..
Clara, full time? Oh yes, please.. and travelling with 12 for a good while yet please.. I think the banter could be superb..

No thanks. Love them or loathe them The Tylers and the Nobles were well defined characters in their own right. Well written. Well acted. Even Marthas family had more depth. Claras back story is an underdeveloped mess. And those kids were awful. I am not automatically against kids having prominent roles in the show. Why shouldnt they? But get the writing right. The Goonies. The kid in Iron Man 3. Stand by me. It can be done without making them insufferable brats.

I had forgotten about that line from Nightmare...I literally cringed first time. I now find it laugh out loud funny in its awfulness. One of this moments where you think 'How did that get through the writing process, the rehearsals, the filming, the editing without anyone saying 'Erm guys...this scene here...'.

Christ, these kids shouldn't be allowed near DW ever again. Truly terrible, and a massive factor as to why Nightmare wasn't as good as it so could have been.

Relegate them to some sub-par CBBC comedy, please!

My feelings exactly! Never, ever again.

I think the young actors get a bit too much criticism; the problem was the way the kids were written as brats. No actor could have made them anything other than annoying with a script like that.

Actually absolutely agree with that. Particularly how Angie was written. Then again, this episode had the Doctor referring to Clara as an enigma, wrapped in a puzzle, etc in a "slightly too tight skirt" or something like that. (Paraphrasing; don't like to remember tbh)

Dreadful line.

Haven't seen the episode for a while, but gawd bless marvellous Matt Smith for making it watchable with his performance. (and Warwick Davis was good, too.)

Love 'The Doctor's Wife' though.

Awfully written, awfully acted. For the love of Sutekh, may they never be seen again.

They were the standout performance of the last series. More Angie and Artie please!

I thought they were a nice way of showing Clara's life besides The Doctor, would have been better if they weren't purely for comic relief...

They were abysmal characters with no redeemable features. The acting was just as bad. I hope they are neither shown or even referenced in Doctor Who ever again.