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Old 21-10-2013, 14:04
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I have just walked the from one end of Liverpool to another and they are completely sold out...

Amazon are expecting stock this Friday....
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Old 21-10-2013, 14:09
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I'm not too surprised, although I think the design is silly, it certainly is a tempting entry price point into the 3DS market, considering picking one up myself so I can play Pokemon X and Luigis Mansion 2.
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Old 21-10-2013, 19:35
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Will be picking one up for a stocking filler... Hopefully
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Old 22-10-2013, 02:40
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Yeah, I was pretty sure this would do well.
It's a cheap way for kids to play the newest Pokemon - released on the same day.
I see no reason to buy one myself, though - I love the 3D effect too much.
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Old 22-10-2013, 03:37
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It's funny that I finally got a 3DS a couple of months ago after hesitating because I can't see the 3D effect and only after that does a 2DS emerge!
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Old 22-10-2013, 04:34
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3D is a fad it's nearly dead already.
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Old 22-10-2013, 04:45
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I quite liked the 3D gimmick in a few games but I actualy thought that Super Mario 3D Land made decent use of it in parts of the gameplay (hence sections that needed the 3D to be on) and was hoping for more of that. The 2DS however makes it unlikely that will happen.
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Old 22-10-2013, 07:19
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Nintendo rarely makes a false move.
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Old 22-10-2013, 08:10
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Only problem with turning the 3D off is it really shows up the dated screen resolution!
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Old 22-10-2013, 08:23
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Nintendo rarely makes a false move.
Course it doesn't.

The Virtual Boy was a roaring success.
It's decisions working with Sony on the SNES CD-Rom worked really well for them.
Sticking with Cartridges for N64? Massive winner.
Online services on Wii, and to an extent WiiU?
The way it's marketed (and named) the WiiU?

Unless of course you're being sarcastic, in which case I'll shut up.
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Old 22-10-2013, 15:13
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Argos are currently selling the 2DS with 2 games for £99.99. The 2DS is going to be huge for Nintendo.
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Old 22-10-2013, 15:49
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I don't get it? I got my 3DS almost two years ago for £130, and that folds, looks a lot nicer and has 3D. This is £99 and it's just come out? Personally, I think it looks hideous I know the 3D is more of a gimmick, but considering my 3DS is almost two years old, I think I got a better deal. I think this really needs to be another £30 quid cheaper.
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Old 22-10-2013, 23:00
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Course it doesn't.

The Virtual Boy was a roaring success.
It's decisions working with Sony on the SNES CD-Rom worked really well for them.
Sticking with Cartridges for N64? Massive winner.
Online services on Wii, and to an extent WiiU?
The way it's marketed (and named) the WiiU?

Unless of course you're being sarcastic, in which case I'll shut up.
Sure, sticking with cartridges was a brilliant move for Nintendo. It allowed them to avoid the piracy that plagued Saturn and PlayStation. The N64 was way more profitable for Nintendo than PS1 ever was for Sony. The SNES certainly didn't need a CD add-on to play shovelware FMV games, not with jewels like Yoshi's Island and Donkey Kong Country! With regard to online play, Nintendo's priority is creating a safe environment for its young audience, and it has achieved that goal.

To you or I, sure, the 2DS looks like a cheap piece of junk; but to small children who just want to play the new Pokemon, it's a great deal. We're not Nintendo's audience, and you shouldn't underestimate the stupidity of the masses.

Was Nintendo late on the HD bandwagon? Casuals didn't mind! We've known for years that HD televisions were routinely being sold to users who didn't know that they needed additional hardware and cables to actually see HD programmes and content, while Epic Games' Mark Rein told Eurogamer in 2009 that "over half the users who have played Gears of War 2 so far do not have HDTVs". If less than half of those users are playing on HDTVs, what must the percentages be like for games like FIFA and Pro Evolution Soccer--let alone Singstar and Buzz, or popular movie tie-in titles?

Given that the expensive HD hardware in Xbox 360 and PS3 sat idle in a majority of those consoles, Nintendo was the company left laughing all the way to the bank with the Wii.
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Old 22-10-2013, 23:05
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Only problem with turning the 3D off is it really shows up the dated screen resolution!
Really? Games still look good 3d on or off.
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Old 22-10-2013, 23:06
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Cartridges for N64 was NOT a mistake, they were nothing short of brilliant and no load times either.

I'm not sure about the 2DS though, 3DS is one-of-a-kind type of console and I love the 3D effect, it's something that really sets the console apart from the competition. Obviously the games themselves do a good job of that too but I worry that 3D might be taking a bit of a back seat now. IF 2DS is selling well though some people must like it. I thought it was a bad idea personally but Nintendo do tend to understand the market and take risks where other hardware companies won't.
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Old 22-10-2013, 23:43
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Cartridges for N64 was NOT a mistake, they were nothing short of brilliant and no load times either.
Yeah, try telling that to publishers who balked at the unit cost of a cartridge compared to a CD. They were horrendously expensive, and this is what turned publishers away from the machine.

If the N64 had an optical disc as standard, and Nintendo hadn't tried to rape developers with development hardware costs, that particular generation might have gone very differently.

I'm not sure about the 2DS though, 3DS is one-of-a-kind type of console and I love the 3D effect, it's something that really sets the console apart from the competition.
The thing that really sets the 3DS apart from the competition is the software. The 3D is a gimmic. It's a great gimmic, but a really painful one to use when travelling; which is when most people will use their 3DS. And so they turn it off.
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Old 23-10-2013, 00:36
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The N64 was way more profitable for Nintendo than PS1 ever was for Sony.
Anything to back this up, out of interest?
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Old 23-10-2013, 00:46
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Yeah, try telling that to publishers who balked at the unit cost of a cartridge compared to a CD. They were horrendously expensive, and this is what turned publishers away from the machine.

If the N64 had an optical disc as standard, and Nintendo hadn't tried to rape developers with development hardware costs, that particular generation might have gone very differently.
Why am I supposed to care about publisher costs? I love the N64 carts. They were sufficient, games could still be games without resorting to pre-rendered CGI and music tracks on CD in order to pad it out. Capcom managed to squeeze Resident Evil 2 into one cart, 2 CD's on PS1. Playstation saw mainstream success and had it's place but the N64 was always quality over quantity, I actually liked how it turned out.

Originally Posted by BinardDad
The thing that really sets the 3DS apart from the competition is the software. The 3D is a gimmic. It's a great gimmic, but a really painful one to use when travelling; which is when most people will use their 3DS. And so they turn it off.
Yes the games, 3D is more than a gimmick for me, it gives the 3DS it's character. I love the way the graphics look, games like StarFox64 and Kid Icarus Uprising are NOT the same experience in 2D. I thought most people used 3DS at home, I've never even seen anyone out and about with one.
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Old 23-10-2013, 01:16
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Why am I supposed to care about publisher costs? I love the N64 carts. They were sufficient, games could still be games without resorting to pre-rendered CGI and music tracks on CD in order to pad it out. Capcom managed to squeeze Resident Evil 2 into one cart, 2 CD's on PS1. Playstation saw mainstream success and had it's place but the N64 was always quality over quantity, I actually liked how it turned out.
Because it directly affected how many publishers actively funded games on the N64. You can tout the "qunatity over quality" reason all you like, but it was almost a financial disaster because no publisher wanted to make games on the N64.

Ask yourself, what was the difference between Res Evil 2 on the PS1 and N64? The PS1 version has better audio and cut-scenes, and because CD's were cheap to manufacture it wasn't a problem to add another disk when you ran out of space.

But the cart really limited what you could put on there. Even the most basic of requirements; textures and animation data, soon ate up your budget on the ROM.

There might have been a lot of quality games on the N64, but that's because the costs meant you had to be really comitted.

But all of a sudden, Nintendo were no longer being really successful in the home console market and it had a long term affect on how much they were willing to invest in that area. The lack of proper on-line accounts is partially down to that lack of mainstream success (as well as other reasons).

. I thought most people used 3DS at home, I've never even seen anyone out and about with one.
I've seen plenty of 3DS's out in the wild. I get a lot of unique streetpasses while on the train. Right now I'm in Melbourne and have gotten quite a few just walking around the city.
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Old 23-10-2013, 01:19
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There might have been a lot of quality games on the N64, but that's because the costs meant you had to be really comitted.
Yeah I LIKED that. A lot.

Wouldn't change the N64 and the way it turned out for anything. Contrary to popular belief it has a decent line up of 3rd party software anyway.

I'm yet to see someone playing on 3DS outside lol. (though I have had a good number of streetpasses)
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Old 23-10-2013, 01:48
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Well, Nintendo exited that console generation with nearly twice the profits of Sony's game division, although I don't know how much of that is related to the Game Boy juggernaut.
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Old 01-11-2013, 19:08
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http://www.nintendolife.com/news/201...sole_last_week


Biggest selling console last week was the 2DS.
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Old 02-11-2013, 16:44
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2ds and pokemon is a top xmas pressie
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Old 02-11-2013, 19:43
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That's impressive considering it doesn't even take into account the 3DS and the 3DS XL.

Nintendo may make some questionable decisions in the console space, but they know exactly what they're doing in the handheld space. They're almost the exact opposite of Sony, really.
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Old 02-11-2013, 19:58
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I'd hope so with the amount of advertising they put into it. Every other ad seems to be telling me about nintendo's best value hand held. It's just a shame they never advertised the wii u so much.
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