EE 4G Power Output

Stereo Steve · 22-03-2015, 21:25

So if 4G is cranked so that these phones pick it over 2/3G, their owners will not be able to make calls? That's going to go down well. I suppose by then most will be out of contract.

jchamier · 22-03-2015, 23:15

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Originally Posted by Stereo Steve

So if 4G is cranked so that these phones pick it over 2/3G, their owners will not be able to make calls? That's going to go down well. I suppose by then most will be out of contract.

No different in the USA either, similar problem with 4G/LTE and 3G/CMDA or 3G/UMTS on older handsets.

As long as 2G or 3G coverage is on a similar (or better) frequency there should be no issue, the only problem is for EE if they use 800 and the 2G is on 1800. This could be why EE will only use 800 in rural areas.

I read that there are some Samsung devices (S3 LTE i guess) that use the same Qualcomm modem as the iPhone 5/5c/5s but there is an operator firmware that enables VoLTE somewhere in the world.

I read another rumour that Apple doesn't flash the firmware in the modem chip in the 'field' as there is too high a chance of permanently bricking the device. That would make a lot of sense.

Stereo Steve · 22-03-2015, 23:18

Sounds like a clusterfuke to me. Better stick with 900 2G for calls then.

jchamier · 22-03-2015, 23:54

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Originally Posted by Stereo Steve

Sounds like a clusterfuke to me. Better stick with 900 2G for calls then.

Stay with O2 or Voda then. Orange was very popular in business for reliable calls and used 1800 for 2G since 1994 launch.

VoLTE will be switchable on the phone - on& off

My family in the USA report volte works and clearer calls are great, but no downside. They've had since Christmas.

Stereo Steve · 23-03-2015, 00:19

But what if you have a 4G phone which can't do VoLTE? You can't turn it off because it's not there. The networks have to hold back 4G so that those people don't pick up a 4G signal over 2/3G. Innit?

lightspeed2398 · 23-03-2015, 06:30

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Originally Posted by Stereo Steve

But what if you have a 4G phone which can't do VoLTE? You can't turn it off because it's not there. The networks have to hold back 4G so that those people don't pick up a 4G signal over 2/3G. Innit?

I think it'll depend on the network but on Three and Voda I think you'll be able to make calls with intouch and voda's app.

jchamier · 23-03-2015, 10:27

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Originally Posted by Stereo Steve

But what if you have a 4G phone which can't do VoLTE? You can't turn it off because it's not there. The networks have to hold back 4G so that those people don't pick up a 4G signal over 2/3G. Innit?

This is all guesswork so far from this forum. We are assuming 4G will be held back. What if the networks don't bother? And assume its only a very few areas where 4G signals get indoors that have no 2G - and that those areas could use WiFi calling?

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22-03-2015, 21:25	#26
Stereo Steve Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,378	So if 4G is cranked so that these phones pick it over 2/3G, their owners will not be able to make calls? That's going to go down well. I suppose by then most will be out of contract.

22-03-2015, 23:15	#27
jchamier Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: This forum Posts: 3,392	Quote: Originally Posted by Stereo Steve So if 4G is cranked so that these phones pick it over 2/3G, their owners will not be able to make calls? That's going to go down well. I suppose by then most will be out of contract. No different in the USA either, similar problem with 4G/LTE and 3G/CMDA or 3G/UMTS on older handsets. As long as 2G or 3G coverage is on a similar (or better) frequency there should be no issue, the only problem is for EE if they use 800 and the 2G is on 1800. This could be why EE will only use 800 in rural areas. I read that there are some Samsung devices (S3 LTE i guess) that use the same Qualcomm modem as the iPhone 5/5c/5s but there is an operator firmware that enables VoLTE somewhere in the world. I read another rumour that Apple doesn't flash the firmware in the modem chip in the 'field' as there is too high a chance of permanently bricking the device. That would make a lot of sense.

22-03-2015, 23:18	#28
Stereo Steve Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,378	Sounds like a clusterfuke to me. Better stick with 900 2G for calls then.

22-03-2015, 23:54	#29
jchamier Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: This forum Posts: 3,392	Quote: Originally Posted by Stereo Steve Sounds like a clusterfuke to me. Better stick with 900 2G for calls then. Stay with O2 or Voda then. Orange was very popular in business for reliable calls and used 1800 for 2G since 1994 launch. VoLTE will be switchable on the phone - on& off My family in the USA report volte works and clearer calls are great, but no downside. They've had since Christmas.

23-03-2015, 00:19	#30
Stereo Steve Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,378	But what if you have a 4G phone which can't do VoLTE? You can't turn it off because it's not there. The networks have to hold back 4G so that those people don't pick up a 4G signal over 2/3G. Innit?

23-03-2015, 06:30	#31
lightspeed2398 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 1,325	Quote: Originally Posted by Stereo Steve But what if you have a 4G phone which can't do VoLTE? You can't turn it off because it's not there. The networks have to hold back 4G so that those people don't pick up a 4G signal over 2/3G. Innit? I think it'll depend on the network but on Three and Voda I think you'll be able to make calls with intouch and voda's app.

23-03-2015, 10:27	#32
jchamier Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: This forum Posts: 3,392	Quote: Originally Posted by Stereo Steve But what if you have a 4G phone which can't do VoLTE? You can't turn it off because it's not there. The networks have to hold back 4G so that those people don't pick up a 4G signal over 2/3G. Innit? This is all guesswork so far from this forum. We are assuming 4G will be held back. What if the networks don't bother? And assume its only a very few areas where 4G signals get indoors that have no 2G - and that those areas could use WiFi calling?

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