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RichmondBlue
26-10-2013
Susanna and Abbey are both avaiable at 10/1. Not particularly enticing until you consider their each-way chances. You only get 1/5 the odds for a place, but there is every chance one of those could reach the final three. That's 2/1, better odds than you get for Sophie actually winning.
Personally, I think Natalie is still the one they all have to beat. I also don't think she is nearly so unpopular out in the real world as some on here appear to suggest.

I don't think any of the male dancers have a chance this year. Ashley is just not popular enough, and Ben would need to improve remarkably to have any chance despite his popularity. Ashley might make the final three if the judges want a token male. Ben will go a long way but the judges won't save him once it comes to a dance off.
Monaogg
26-10-2013
Originally Posted by RichmondBlue:
“Susanna and Abbey are both avaiable at 10/1. Not particularly enticing until you consider their each-way chances. You only get 1/5 the odds for a place, but there is every chance one of those could reach the final three. That's 2/1, better odds than you get for Sophie actually winning.
Personally, I think Natalie is still the one they all have to beat. I also don't think she is nearly so unpopular out in the real world as some on here appear to suggest.

I don't think any of the male dancers have a chance this year. Ashley is just not popular enough, and Ben would need to improve remarkably to have any chance despite his popularity. Ashley might make the final three if the judges want a token male. Ben will go a long way but the judges won't save him once it comes to a dance off.”

TBH If either Ashley or Ben win based over the very strong females there are at the top, it will purely be down to voting for the male regardless of ability and a sad day for SCD.
hannah_337
26-10-2013
I got Sophie at 20 to 1 and I'm so thrilled with that!
Johnnys Arcade
26-10-2013
Originally Posted by RichmondBlue:
“. That's 2/1, better odds than you get for Sophie actually winning.
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Sorry, you are wrong there. The actual odds of a place here are 1/2 not 2/1.

Say you have £2 each way @ 10/1 and the selection places. You then get £2 @ 2/1 (a fifth of 10/1) which pays £6.00 in total.

So you would have staked a total of £4 for a return of £6 which is 1/2 NOT 2/1.

I do strongly agree with Natalie as the winner though. I have a juicy 5/1 on that!i
Johnnys Arcade
26-10-2013
Originally Posted by hannah_337:
“I got Sophie at 20 to 1 and I'm so thrilled with that! ”

Now that IS a good price! Did you bet that each way or just to win?
hannah_337
26-10-2013
Originally Posted by Johnnys Arcade:
“Now that IS a good price! Did you bet that each way or just to win?”

Each way.
Johnnys Arcade
26-10-2013
Originally Posted by hannah_337:
“Each way. ”

Now that really is a good bet! Even a place will do & that is looking a cert.!
RichmondBlue
26-10-2013
Originally Posted by Johnnys Arcade:
“Sorry, you are wrong there. The actual odds of a place here are 1/2 not 2/1.

Say you have £2 each way @ 10/1 and the selection places. You then get £2 @ 2/1 (a fifth of 10/1) which pays £6.00 in total.

So you would have staked a total of £4 for a return of £6 which is 1/2 NOT 2/1.

I do strongly agree with Natalie as the winner though. I have a juicy 5/1 on that!i”

They are really two separate bets though. A win bet and a place bet. You are getting 2-1 a place, 1st, 2nd or 3rd.
If your win bet comes up you would gain £20, plus a £4 gain on your place bet, and your total stake money back = £28.
If your win bet goes down, and your selection is placed 2 or 3, you would (as you say) just get the £4 plus the single stake for a place = £6.
You are perfectly correct, the return on your total stake represents odds of 1/2, but half your stake went on the win bet.
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