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Old 24-10-2013, 14:02
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Samsung have announced that their flagship phone, Samsung Galaxy S4, has shipped over 40m units in the first 6 months since release. When compared to Galaxy S3 it took Samsung 8 months to reach the same total.

The Galaxy S4 has been a huge success for Samsung and much better than the Galaxy S3. The S4 is Samsungs fastest selling handset to date.

What people need to understand is that Samsung are disappointed with the fact the S4 hasn't done better. Not that the S4 has performed worse than the S3.

http://www.mobiletoday.co.uk/News/27...Galaxy_S4.aspx
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Old 24-10-2013, 14:21
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As I mentioned in another thread I think Samsung expected apple like sales for the s4, which perhaps was unrealistic given the number of phones they produce.

Not bad numbers considering the level of the direct competition is better than it was for the s3.
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Old 24-10-2013, 14:23
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._mobile_phones

for comparison..
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Old 24-10-2013, 14:29
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Half of those numbers are made up.
Worst sourced information i've ever seen!!!!!
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Old 24-10-2013, 15:07
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Does make you wonder why it has suffered such large price reductions.
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Old 24-10-2013, 16:17
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Does make you wonder why it has suffered such large price reductions.
These are shipped figures not actual sales though.

If there is more supply than demand then the price has to go down.
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Old 24-10-2013, 16:27
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You mean the exact bone of contention that cropped up in recent discussions about the iPhone suddenly isn't an issue anymore?
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Old 24-10-2013, 16:38
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You mean the exact bone of contention that cropped up in recent discussions about the iPhone suddenly isn't an issue anymore?
The Samsung has been out 6 months. The S3 was sold at a lower price six months after release as well. As are pretty much all android phones. It's something called depreciation.

The iPhone 5c saw a price drop after 2 weeks. That's not the same.

Nor are shipped and sold the same.

I seriously struggle to understand you sometimes. Then i remember you're an iPhone fanboy and it makes sense.
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Old 24-10-2013, 16:38
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You mean the exact bone of contention that cropped up in recent discussions about the iPhone suddenly isn't an issue anymore?
So if I get this straight you are saying the two things are exactly the same are you?
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Old 24-10-2013, 16:39
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These are shipped figures not actual sales though.

If there is more supply than demand then the price has to go down.
They are actual sales by samsung, these phones have been bought by retailers.
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Old 24-10-2013, 16:40
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They are actual sales by samsung, these phones have been bought by retailers.
Read Jonners post again. He's correct.
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Old 24-10-2013, 16:43
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They are actual sales by samsung, these phones have been bought by retailers.
Are you for real, the OP said these are shipped sales. The retailers are the ones who are selling the units to the end user.

You can easily buy a brand new unlocked S4 for around 400 which is much less than the official retail price which can only indicate there is more supply than demand.
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Old 24-10-2013, 16:44
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Read Jonners post again. He's correct.
He is correct that they are shipped figures but items shipped are bought by retailers to sell, that is what samsung do (any phone company) sell into the retail chain.

My point what what other figures should we be seeing, what else can samsung report?
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Old 24-10-2013, 16:50
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Are you for real, the OP said these are shipped sales. The retailers are the ones who are selling the units to the end user.

You can easily buy a brand new unlocked S4 for around 400 which is much less than the official retail price which can only indicate there is more supply than demand.
Shipped sales exactly and your point is what exactly?

You have no evidence of over supply or lack of demand just your usual nonsense. Your analogy means everything reduced in price means over supply, is that what your claiming?

Price reduction can stem from many things, market strategy, reduction in production costs etc. I could buy an s4 days after launch for less than the RRP, in fact I could buy almost anything for less than the retail price is that all the result of over supply
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Old 24-10-2013, 16:53
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He is correct that they are shipped figures but items shipped are bought by retailers to sell, that is what samsung do (any phone company) sell into the retail chain.

My point what what other figures should we be seeing, what else can samsung report?
I was trying to explain why there was a price drop.

I'm not expecting any other figures, my comment is that you can buy an S4 for much less than the official retail hence there must be plenty of supply in the hands of retailers. That is all. If there was limited stock then the price would go up and be more in line with the official retail price

40 million shipped is an impressive figure nevertheless and puts into perspective the sales figures of something like the Nexus 4.
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Old 24-10-2013, 16:59
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No you were posting a fact, which I questioned.

Price reduction does not automatically equate to over supply (therefore lack of sales) for the reasons I have pointed out. There are many many reasons a price reduction may be implemented and the very competitive nature of the android sector is without doubt one of them. The price reduction is a likely from Samsung as it is from a retail like fire sale from unsold handsets.

However on the flip side I am not saying that it automatically does not equal that either, just simply there are variables to consider and I very much doubt it is as black and white as you say.
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Old 24-10-2013, 17:07
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This still leaves the question. If sales are so good, why is there such large discounts available? I'm not talking about 20-30, we are talking 200+.
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Old 24-10-2013, 17:08
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They are actual sales by samsung, these phones have been bought by retailers.
It is kinda funny the way you were al over this when it was Apple, but now seems to be confusing you.

Is this a wind up?
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Old 24-10-2013, 17:08
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200+ really how do you work that out then?
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Old 24-10-2013, 17:09
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No you were posting a fact, which I questioned.

Price reduction does not automatically equate to over supply (therefore lack of sales) for the reasons I have pointed out. There are many many reasons a price reduction may be implemented and the very competitive nature of the android sector is without doubt one of them. The price reduction is a likely from Samsung as it is from a retail like fire sale from unsold handsets.

However on the flip side I am not saying that it automatically does not equal that either, just simply there are variables to consider and I very much doubt it is as black and white as you say.
As another poster pointed out there is depreciation, which is just another way of saying less demand. This is to be expected with new more powerful models now available and perhaps an earlier release of the S5 than previously thought.

What ever the stock situation the price they are able to sell at is around 400. If the retailers could sell them at a higher price they would.
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Old 24-10-2013, 17:12
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It is kinda funny the way you were al over this when it was Apple, but now seems to be confusing you.

Is this a wind up?
All over what, you are confused aren't you.
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Old 24-10-2013, 17:13
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This still leaves the question. If sales are so good, why is there such large discounts available? I'm not talking about 20-30, we are talking 200+.
Surely the original article answered that! Sales are "good" - but Samsung had budgeted for far better than this - and there is now a large oversupply of handsets
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Old 24-10-2013, 17:14
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This still leaves the question. If sales are so good, why is there such large discounts available? I'm not talking about 20-30, we are talking 200+.
Because the phone has been out for a long time.... (oh and it's more around 100-150)

Same happened with the S3 and S2 despite being the biggest selling android phones at the time.

It's simple depreciation.
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Old 24-10-2013, 17:16
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As another poster pointed out there is depreciation, which is just another way of saying less demand. This is to be expected with new more powerful models now available and perhaps an earlier release of the S5 than previously thought.

What ever the stock situation the price they are able to sell at is around 400. If the retailers could sell them at a higher price they would.
Exactly, there may well have been less demand at the retail price but as I have already pointed out the price I expect from samsung is less than at launch, as with all products.

Your point only works if we accept the price has remained constant from samsung resulting in lack of sales and over supply. Are you saying the launch price is still being charged by samsung to retailers?

Simple economies of scale should indicate this is highly unlikely.
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Old 24-10-2013, 17:17
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All over what, you are confused aren't you.
Fairly obvious really. It's the way that in the other thread, you were jumping up and down about the idea of iPhone 5c units shipped to retailers counting as sales, but now you're happy to count shipped Galaxy S4 units as actual sales because "the phones have been bought by the retailer".
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