Yeah. I just twisted mine to see and it didn't budge!

still a fool in a stress because im not making it all up - lol.
I own a Nexus 4 and iPad 3.

The file is not a propper named mp3 on your phone ...its cached mp3 file under a obscure name deep inside the file system save for use offline. Google are keen to promote a online ecosystem btw- hence why purchases stream by default and why services where you can upload your entire collection to stream back to the device exist.

Other apps like Amazon mp3 and 7Digital can store the properly named physical mp3 on the phone itself - but again its in its own folder in the apps folder. This is not exactly useful when there is a actual folder for Music called "Music".

On music players such as the default or Power amp these files aren't seen. You have to delve into yet more settings to select the folder containing the files. Or get the physical file and port it to "Music" That just isn't easy or simple.
On iTunes at least you know you have a physical file on your ipod/iphone etc and PC.

http://forums.androidcentral.com/goo...ottom-too.html

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2005799

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2002148

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question...3101828AAnQKYQ

http://www.reddit.com/r/nexus4/comme...ose_internals/

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ne...m=122&ie=UTF-8

If it's a known issue (which personally I've never experienced), then surely the logical thing to do would be to make a claim before the warranty runs out rather than just sitting there with a faulty device.

Yes, yes you are. The only fool here is you with your lies and misinformation. You constantly do it on here. Every single thing you have said thats bad about Android has been proved wrong yet you still won't stop!!


Oh jesus christ!!

The file is downloaded on to the phone. Simple as that. It is a named file since it appears on the phone and can be played. Why you would want to see the file and move it i don't know.

Fact is, the file can be downloaded and played offline. You claimed it couldnt. It can.

The point here is, you claimed you could not save the file. You can.

I have never once struggled to listen to music on google music just like i never struggled on itunes. So im not sure what your point in all this was in the first place!!!

http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/22959...quality-issues

https://discussions.apple.com/thread...t=930&tstart=0

http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2012/0...build-quality/

http://blog.gsmarena.com/was-apple-a...uality-issues/

http://macdailynews.com/2013/04/22/a...y-says-source/

I could go on for hours and hours. Simple fact here is, every phone has issues of some sort. For you to think the iphone is the only one that doesn't shows you for the fanboy you are...

I've personally replaced the screen on a nexus 4. It is made of almost entirely from plastic, apart from the glass front and back panels.

It doesn't creak because not having to have a replaceable battery cover means the cover is clipped on very securely.

As someone who uses both iOS 7 and Android 4.3, I really don't understand Apple fanboy's views and opinions. While iOS 7 is nice looking in a child-like way, Android way surpassed it in every aspect a long time ago.

Looking at the arguments on here, it's obvious that those who are infatuated by iOS seem to think it's something it's clearly not, and hasn't been for a while. Yes, it's simple to use, but no simpler than Android. It certainly is a hell of a lot less customisable than Android, which is why so many people like Android.

With Android a mobile device can be left as it is or customised to your preferences, it can even been set to simple mode on some phones, should you want it even simpler! As much as I also enjoy using iOS 7, it is no Android and I feel so restrained by it's closed-garden, but I guess some people like these restraints.

There's no way Android is going anywhere, as much as some people would hope. Competition is good, and hopefully iOS will one day innovate again again.

Mark

Seems strange the OP has not come back on to this thread and answered any of the questions that have been ask in here
Was he on a wind-up?

Just one thing to the OP doesn't the iPhone 5s have a Samsung A7 chip in it?

To be honest i have a Samsung Galaxy S3 and love it not bovvered about the 4 going to wait till the 5 comes out
Also i do like some of the Apple stuff my ds has a iPhone 5s so we have best of both in our house

Apple and Android will be about for a long time to come and thats good for competition.

Yeah, he does this every now and then. Trolls on then never comes back onto the thread. Actually he does sometimes but its never to debate with points made. He just adds more fuel to the fire then leaves. Should be banned to be honest.


Samsung made chip but designed by apple i believe. Apple doesn't build anything for the iphone or infact any product the do. They simply design it and get others to do it.


Yeah, we've had macs, ipods, iphones and we have an ipad 2 here and an apple TV box. Point is, we see the good and bad in all products but the rabid apple fans here cannot and will not have anything bad said against apple. They hate it!! Its funny to watch

I think the OP is a wum, no serious person is suggesting Android is about to fail.

I do think there are "fandroids" on here who are just as bad and are also seem have a weird desperation for Apple fail.

In the real world if some one asks me for a phone recommendation it's generally a Nexus for a tech type of person and certainly if value for money is important to them or iPhone for a non tech person. In my experience non techies seem to find the iPhone a bit easier to use.

My experience is the complete opposite. The Mrs, friends of ours, and older folk in my family for instance picked up Android and iOS just as easily as each other. None of them are techy in the slightest.

Android used to be a bit of a mess, and i can see why people would maybe struggle. These days on 4.3, it's a complete non issue. Both Android and iOS are just as easy to use as each other.

I find on Android that really non technical people get confused with the way android has shortcuts on the home screen and in fact to properly manage your apps you need to go into the app drawer or the app in settings. I think they also get a bit confused with the difference between the home screen and app drawer as touching the icon launches the app in both the app drawer and home screen.

Especially when you long click a short cut icon and the remove link appears. So many people seem to think this is the way to uninstall the program.

Also when you click on an apps in settings and they see something like a clear cache button, this might as well be written in Martian to them.

At least the mess of having an app stored in on external or internal memory is no longer an issue.

I dont know what you mean about manage your apps. In all my years using Android or iOS, i have never needed to manage my apps

The people i know don't get confused with the home screen and the app drawer. At least ive never been asked about it. Most people would see this the same as a computer. Icons on the desktop and some in the start menu as well.

What i have been asked about however is, if on iOS you can have it the same way as with Android. They seem to prefer the home screen which you can personalise.

Yeah, in my experience, the non-tech people seem to be a lot more at home with Android now as it resembles a desktop environment.

They can pin their favourite apps to the homescreen and for anything else, there's the app draw a.k.a start menu. It's simple and easy to understand, plus widgets for stuff like a flashlight or quick settings are also popular with them.

Before iOS7 introduced their Control Center, everything was fiddly, even turning off WiFi was confusing to them, Android has always been much better in device management, there are multiple ways of doing so.

Plus a lot of the non-tech people also prefer Swype or a keyboard that suits them, which of course, can't happen on iOS.

So you've never had to or wanted to uninstall an app ?

Also sometimes you need every so often to force stop an app or clear cache on an app that is misbehaving, or see all your running apps for example if you want to optimise battery. It's pretty important to get reasonably familiar with the apps setting feature on Android IMO

That's true but a heck of a lot of non tech people even struggle with that concept as far as they are concerned they have an icon to click which launches the word processor or whatever software they need to use and leave it to an IT person when something needs to be installed or altered.

i uninstall from the app drawer or from the play store if im in that. As for force closing, its not an issue i come across very often. The people i know know how to uninstall anyway and have never heard any complaints about these things.

I disagree a bit, I have used IOS, Android, Windows Phone and Symbian and I have found Windows Phone is actually very good. I think it is let down by the lack of apps but that is due to the app makers however the apps available are sufficient. I have noticed a large amount of people recently with Nokia Lumina phones and people I know who have a windows phone are happy with them. I find the iphone, Android and Symbian the home screens look quite bland where as with Windows phone you can customise the screen to put what you want at the top, change the size of the tiles and see updates on the tiles.

Mobile phones have their times, about 10 years ago Nokia's 3310 was making high sales, 5 years ago it was Blackberry and now it is the iphone

Is any manufacturer using Android Samsung excluded actually doing well? HTC may go belly up any time, I don't see Sony making big waves either. There's LG producing handsets for Google and that's it.

I'm not sure why it would matter if it creaked or not. So long as it doesn't fall apart. I had a Kindle that creaked from day one yet 2 years later it still worked and was still in one piece. My galaxy note creaked but again after 18 months it was still intact. Yes iPhones are lovely to look at and have the better design aesthetically, however the plastic phones i. e Samsung are more durable. If I drop a galaxy phone I'm not too bothered as it will more than likely hold up but I know if I drop an iPhone I'm finished.

If I dropped my Lumia 920 it would break my toe My good old Kindle had creaked early on, too, but it's still working after three years and I won't replace it until it's completely gone. Pretty reliable for a bit of plastic.

I agree with this but apart from using iTunes you can't organise your files any other way, nor can you use other music players without using your computer. At least with android you can use another player if you are not happy with the default or google play. I buy a lot of my music from amazon but use player pro to play my music. It's easy to move the mp3 files around on my phone. For example I'll buy stuff from the Amazon mp3 app, which gets stored on my phones internal memory. I can then really transfer that across to my SD card and play it through the player pro app. The Google music app automatically uploads those songs to the server and I can then steam those songs through the Google play app installed on my galaxy tab, ipad mini, ipod touch and PC and chromebook. Another thing I like about music organisation on Android is that I can edit track titles and modify art work directly on my device. iTunes is more straight forward however it limits what you can do without a computer.

These days its Android thats making the big sales, not the iPhone ....

The iPhone homescreen has absolutely no customisation.
Android - can put what you want where you want.
Symbian - you can put what you want, where you want.
WP - the tiles are absolutely no different to the widgets available on Android and Symbian 3.

If I drop my iPhone I tend to panic. But only a little, its my work phone ....

Seen a similar number of breakages of both iPhones and SGS3s at work, so reckon they're broadly comparable on fragility.