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Old 27-10-2013, 20:23
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Dump Louis and Co and bring back Dr Fox, Niki and Pete Waterman.

Was miles better than this and not rigged (or appear to be rigged)
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Old 27-10-2013, 20:41
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I preferred it too
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Old 27-10-2013, 20:52
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I preferred it too
What bring back a show where the acts pick their running order for next week on the ITV2 show by picking their number out of a hat/bag; so the act which is drawn the first start position has first choice at selecting the song they sing for that theme, and the act that has the singing last spot has the last choice of picking their song selection .....

The producers and Syco would have a heart attack without the use of blatant manipulation that they so frequently use today to throw acts "under the bus"/protect their "chosen ones" etc..
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Old 27-10-2013, 21:34
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Yes along with Ant & Dec but other judges, Neil Fox is just irrelevant in 2013, perhaps Simon, Louis, Danni and Pete or Brian Friedman, would be awesome
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Old 27-10-2013, 21:42
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Will Young and Cheryl Cole would be nailed on to do it. Would be interesting to see, and would give X Factor a much needed break.
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Old 27-10-2013, 21:44
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No, bring back Fame Academy with Live coverage all day!
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Old 27-10-2013, 22:21
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Yeah bring back mobile bricks too while we're at it.
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Old 27-10-2013, 22:23
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Dump Louis and Co and bring back Dr Fox, Niki and Pete Waterman.

Was miles better than this and not rigged (or appear to be rigged)
Scrap X-Factor...bring back Opportunity Knocks, or New Faces..at least the judges, for the latter, sometimes knew what they were talking about.

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Old 27-10-2013, 22:29
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They need to scrap the category nonsense. It's too political.
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Old 28-10-2013, 00:28
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Why replace a dated format with an even more dated format?
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Old 28-10-2013, 01:24
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I preferred the Pop Idol format 100 times more than X Factor's, and I liked the presenters and judges better. But what also kept that fresh was that there was a 2 year gap between the two Pop Idols, with a Popstars: The Rivals in between to keep the variation up. One of the biggest problems with X Factor IMO is actually running it year after year. It becomes tired, and the chances of generating a lot of talented finalists two years running is slim... now we're lucky to get more than two talented finalists at all!

So a Pop Idol every two years, Ant & Dec as presenters, Cowell, Waterman, Niki Chapman and Will Young as the judges... keep exactly the same format, 16-25's with room auditions, followed by five semi finals with two televote qualifiers each, and then a final 10 running down week by week to a final 2.
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Old 28-10-2013, 07:12
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Yes along with Ant & Dec but other judges, Neil Fox is just irrelevant in 2013, perhaps Simon, Louis, Danni and Pete or Brian Friedman, would be awesome
No without Louis he is the worst judge ever. I don't ever recall people being likened to a young whoever cos of what they look like, I don't recall anyone keeping on about someones age, I don't recall anyone saying to someone you are world class when they were not.

All four Pop idol judges gave honest critiques it was not the pantomime that you have now
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Old 28-10-2013, 08:26
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I used to long for a return to Pop Idol or the earlier incarnations of Xfactor - but they wouldn't work now. If you watch some of those earlier shows you will see they are actually rather dull.

I do agree however that an alternating format a la Pop Idol/Pop Stars Rivals may be a good idea.

The trouble is that the fatal flaw of PSTR was the immensely cruel way the two contestants found out they'd missed a place in the final group. A show based on the presumption that the Christmas top 2 would both be from the same show wouldn't sit well with the public.

So what new format could there be? To me X factor is Pop Idol with a different middle series selection procedure, mentors, and a device to keep in contestants the producers have chosen. It's integrated the group theme, particularly manufactured groups in the last few years.

The Voice has proved that it ISN'T just about the Voice and therefore has been completely self defeating.


So possible ideas could be:

Finalists assembled from regional heats - e.g. Scotland, Wales, South West England etc

Points scoring by judges - e.g. scores out of 10 for voice and performance

Getting rid of weekly elimiations for the first six weeks, and then the commulative votes are tallied and the half of the contestants with the lowest votes don't progress.
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Old 28-10-2013, 08:33
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or how about scrapping the mentoring, and have the judges each choose an act for the "bottom 4" which the public vote to save.
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Old 28-10-2013, 11:02
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Yes along with Ant & Dec but other judges, Neil Fox is just irrelevant in 2013, perhaps Simon, Louis, Danni and Pete or Brian Friedman, would be awesome
I'd say scrap X-Factor and avoid going back to any other format, like the plague..and that goes double for thinking that bringing back hackneyed old judges such as Cowell, Cole, etc...

They are, IMO, part of the problem and we shouldn't expect anything to any different, if they, particularly Simon Cowell had anything to do with it.

I'd go for a completely different format, a completely different panel of judges, preferrably, for a novel change, a group, who had all some proven musical worth in the industry, which would count out anyone who'd never sung a song, played a note on an instrument, or written anything of worth..

Of course, it might make it difficult to find people with real musical kudos to have anything to do with it, given the tarnished reputation which these shows now have..no thanks, big time, to Gary Barlow selling his soul to "Satan," aka....Simon Cowell..

However, it's still possible to organize a vehicle which would give contestants a real chance at making a career in the business..

It just has to be handled well..so far, it's been a total disaster area and a total con..

We need a refreshing change, not a backward step into the hands of those who've created this monster in the first place.

Rich.
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Old 28-10-2013, 11:57
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Dump Louis and Co and bring back Dr Fox, Niki and Pete Waterman.

Was miles better than this and not rigged (or appear to be rigged)
This has reminded me of Peter Kays hilarious parody...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf1Hd9rX0M8

- tim
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