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Old 28-10-2013, 22:09
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Windows Defender

My new pc arrived with a 1 month "free" installation of McAfee installed on it. I've never been a fan of McAfee and for that matter neither has my wife who went through months of problems on her work pc with it.

I don't intend to carry on with McAfee so will Defender be a suitable replacement?

As Windows Defender is apparently installed on my pc but has been inactivated it might be the easiest option but will it be the best?

Has anyone got any views on this?

Thanks
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Old 28-10-2013, 22:11
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If I was you, I wouldn't touch Windows Defender with a barge pole.
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Old 28-10-2013, 22:39
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Windows Defender is OK.
It's certainly not the best, but then neither is McAfee.
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Old 28-10-2013, 23:59
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If I was you, I wouldn't touch Windows Defender with a barge pole.
In 8.1 it's fine for most users. If used with the best AV out there (Common sense) it covers most of the bases...
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Old 29-10-2013, 00:17
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Leave it disabled, download and install Kaspersky Anti virus OR Internet Suite 2014, you'll get a 30 day trial period or if you google you can find a 90 day trial. Another very good anti virus is Bitdefender, again it does a separate anti virus program or internet suite on initially a trial basis if you want to test it first. On the FREE side Avast is generally considered to offer a high level of protection as does Comodo anti virus and Panda Cloud. Others on here may try to convince you to install Microsoft's own Security Essentials program. Of course it's your choice but in practically every independent test done, Microsoft's program has been proved to be one of the most ineffective programs available.

A good paid for or free program backed up by a weekly scan with the free version of Malwarebytes Antimalware program should give you more than adequate protection. Howver, don't forget that NO program, free or paid can give you a guarantee that your PC will never become infected. Viruses and malware evolve quickly so the programs to fight them are constantly playing catch up. If you and your family members are generally safe surfers and are not in the habit of visiting dodgy sites, downloading dodgy software from bittorrent sites etc you lessen the risk. If you are not then you might consider surfing within a sandboxed environment. A google search will give you programs like Sandboxie or if Avast is installed a sandbox element is included, as it is also with Kaspersky's and Bitdefender's Internet Suites.

Hope this helps.
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Old 29-10-2013, 00:23
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Leave it disabled, download and install Kaspersky Anti virus OR Internet Suite 2014, you'll get a 30 day trial period or if you google you can find a 90 day trial. Another very good anti virus is Bitdefender, again it does a separate anti virus program or internet suite on initially a trial basis if you want to test it first. On the FREE side Avast is generally considered to offer a high level of protection as does Comodo anti virus and Panda Cloud. Others on here may try to convince you to install Microsoft's own Security Essentials program. Of course it's your choice but in practically every independent test done, Microsoft's program has been proved to be one of the most ineffective programs available.

A good paid for or free program backed up by a weekly scan with the free version of Malwarebytes Antimalware program should give you more than adequate protection. Howver, don't forget that NO program, free or paid can give you a guarantee that your PC will never become infected. Viruses and malware evolve quickly so the programs to fight them are constantly playing catch up. If you and your family members are generally safe surfers and are not in the habit of visiting dodgy sites, downloading dodgy software from bittorrent sites etc you lessen the risk. If you are not then you might consider surfing within a sandboxed environment. A google search will give you programs like Sandboxie or if Avast is installed a sandbox element is included, as it is also with Kaspersky's and Bitdefender's Internet Suites.

Hope this helps.
BIB Nobody who knows anything about Windows 8 would do that.
Not because there's anything wrong with MSE per se, but because they would know that Windows Defender on Windows 8 is the successor to MSE, and comes pre-installed.
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Old 29-10-2013, 01:13
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As empty box says, MSE doesn't exist for Windows 8 and 8.1 it's evolved into Windows defender along with a host of improvements. You don't have to install it, it is built into the OS and is automatically enabled. All very well giving a lecture if the content is sound and correct.
I don't use it personally on my desktop, but it's on the other machines in the house and is protecting them even when surfing in some fairly murky waters.... It would be wrong to totally dismiss it for everyday normal use....IMO..
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Old 29-10-2013, 07:09
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In 8.1 it's fine for most users. If used with the best AV out there (Common sense) it covers most of the bases...
Defender + common sense + a good ad blocker (like Adblock Plus).

I've been running MSE/Defender on my Windows 7/8 PCs for years, and I've seen one infection - via an ad.
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Old 29-10-2013, 09:25
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Defender + common sense + a good ad blocker (like Adblock Plus).

I've been running MSE/Defender on my Windows 7/8 PCs for years, and I've seen one infection - via an ad.
Well, I've been using Avast on Windows XP/7/8 PCs for years and not seen a single infection
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Old 29-10-2013, 10:18
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Defender, plus a weekly scan with Malwarebyte's Anti-Malware just to make sure, will be fine. And of course the automatic scans by the Malicious Software Removal Tool every patch Tuesday.

Removing McAfee or Norton can sometimes improve the speed at which a computer runs.
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Old 29-10-2013, 23:27
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Thanks for all your help.

I've been looking at possible replacements for McAfee in conjunction with the advice posted here.

I think I would be satisfied with a free product as it's unlikely the pc will be visiting any dodgy sites. I know it's not that simple but as far as I know on my last pc using Avast it seemed to do a pretty good job and looking at at some of the reviews it came out pretty well. I did become concerned in recent times that it was slowing everything down though, perhaps my rather old pc had something to do with that.

I've still got a few days left of my free McAfee subscription so if anyone else has more to add I will keep looking here.

Thanks for all your contributions.
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