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Old 29-10-2013, 04:27
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...ce-off-preview

Ok, i'm going to be honest here and say i don't really see much of a difference.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XqWRACk2zY

Either way, i think it looks pretty impressive on both consoles.
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Old 29-10-2013, 04:50
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...ce-off-preview

Ok, i'm going to be honest here and say i don't really see much of a difference.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XqWRACk2zY

Either way, i think it looks pretty impressive on both consoles.
There really doesn't seem to be much of a difference at all based on that YouTube video, if anything the X1 version looks slightly sharper and more vibrant, although I can see what DF means when they talk about the X1 having more pronounced aliasing (most noticeable on shadows). I think it may just be the video capture though because if the PS4 version is running at 900p then surely that will be he shaper of the two in reality?

Either way though, I think you'd be really hard pressed to say that one version looks significantly better than the other.
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Old 29-10-2013, 05:38
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A bit of a higher resolution, slightly higher framerate and more effects on PS4, but certainly suffers upscaling issues, X1 version clearly sharper, impressive considering it's 720p vs 900p. That scaling tech being put to good use. Not too bad overall, though I'm not interested in this game. The fact they are running on equivalent to high settings on PC and coping with v-synced 60fps for much of the time is pretty good for those looking forward to the game. I wonder what improvements we'll see some launch?

One thing is it's funny that despite DF's recommendation for the PS4 game (at this point) many people are calling them biased for altering gamma set up since the PS4 version looks washed out.. What can you do LOL.
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Old 29-10-2013, 06:07
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People already trying to downplay it, if this was Xbox 360 vs PS3, it would be a whole different story, hell, 50% more pixels, better AA AND better framerate, come on guys, I thought ALL of those were important.
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Old 29-10-2013, 06:30
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People already trying to downplay it, if this was Xbox 360 vs PS3, it would be a whole different story, hell, 50% more pixels, better AA AND better framerate, come on guys, I thought ALL of those were important.
I don't think anyone is denying that in terms of metrics the PS4 has a notable advantage here, but the actual image quality is subjective, there's a big difference between them and in the same instance you can argue X1 version looks better in some cases. Looking at the 1080p comparison on my HDTV, the X1 version features better textures, sharper image and more vibrant colours/lighting. PS4 has better AA but at the expense of clarity.

I think they will both play the same, then it's a case of what controller you prefer and how they both hold up with regards to multiplayer (in terms of dedicated servers, X1 will use azure and PS4 will use Dice's own). It's not a white wash by any stretch.
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Old 29-10-2013, 07:23
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There has been less differenced on xbox 360 vs ps3 games yet that was enough to declare xbox 360 victory. Hell look at all stars racing transformed, df gave the xbox 360 version the win because it had slightly better framerate in some areas.

Also check out the ps4 screenshotswith the same contrast levels on sites like ign, etc, df seems to have used different settings on the consoles, ehich is odd.
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Old 29-10-2013, 07:54
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I know this is totally subjective but to me the PS4 looks better with the particle physics and the X1 looks better with the lighting. Other than that, not much difference as far as I can tell. Maybe a couple of glitches on the X1 that I didn't see on the PS4. Both an improvement on current gen though.
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Old 29-10-2013, 07:58
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There has been less differenced on xbox 360 vs ps3 games yet that was enough to declare xbox 360 victory. Hell look at all stars racing transformed, df gave the xbox 360 version the win because it had slightly better framerate in some areas.

Also check out the ps4 screenshotswith the same contrast levels on sites like ign, etc, df seems to have used different settings on the consoles, ehich is odd.
I'm not really sure what you want Ash? If you want a victory then you've got it, DF clearly stated the PS4 held the advantage here. Contrast differences aside though the texture/sharpness differences are still prominent.

Just wait until 3rd party devs get used to using that eSRAM + DME. Sound familiar?

What I will say though is that despite Dice shooting for 60fps, which was clearly the right thing to do, the technical differences between them are slightly worrying at this point. Is that what you maybe wanted to hear?

If I recall correctly, DF recommended the Wii U version of Sonic Transformed as the superior version due to off-screen play and Mii support despite it having the lowest resolution. 360 got the nod over PS3 due to superior FPS and Avatars.
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Old 29-10-2013, 07:59
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I know this is totally subjective but to me the PS4 looks better with the particle physics and the X1 looks better with the lighting. Other than that, not much difference as far as I can tell. Maybe a couple of glitches on the X1 that I didn't see on the PS4. Both an improvement on current gen though.
I suppose for me he biggest difference was the performance, yeah visually they looked similar but the PS4 had a stronger frame rate on the whole and was pushing 55% more pixels.

55% more this early into a generation, what will the rest of the gen be like?
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Old 29-10-2013, 08:20
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Well 2d we cant compare textures, many ps3 titles had better textures or better texture filtering but they were always cast aside as not important, at least thats what df said in terms of all stars racing. And feom whats shown, in mp mode, xbox one downgrades the textures, so then you end up with less aa, lower framerate, lower textures, less effects and lower resolution on the console that costs 80 more. Care to move the goalposts again?
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Old 29-10-2013, 08:29
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Doesn't look that much better than some current generation games.
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Old 29-10-2013, 08:31
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Well I hope both MS and Sony execs are lookibg less smug as clearly none of them are 'next gen'
For me battlefield is THE test as there is so much going on and it pushes PCs to their limits. None of them reached 1080 and although the games will still be good, it leaves me slightly deflated. A bit like they've released an iphone 5c.
We will be calling for a next gen again in a couple of years time.
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Old 29-10-2013, 08:40
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IGN have thier own comparison video, seems to have different footage. I can't see a great deal of difference, XBox one looks brighter, I always find videos difficult to compare though.

http://uk.ign.com/videos/2013/10/28/...ics-comparison
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Old 29-10-2013, 08:46
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I'm not really sure what you want Ash? If you want a victory then you've got it, DF clearly stated the PS4 held the advantage here. Contrast differences aside though the texture/sharpness differences are still prominent.

Just wait until 3rd party devs get used to using that eSRAM + DME. Sound familiar?

What I will say though is that despite Dice shooting for 60fps, which was clearly the right thing to do, the technical differences between them are slightly worrying at this point. Is that what you maybe wanted to hear?

If I recall correctly, DF recommended the Wii U version of Sonic Transformed as the superior version due to off-screen play and Mii support despite it having the lowest resolution. 360 got the nod over PS3 due to superior FPS and Avatars.
get to grips with esram and dme? what about ps4? isn't their toolset going to improve? what when devs start using compute?

As usual you are straight in on the defence. There already people who have played the game saying ps4's multi looks better than xboxone single player !

Looks like a reversal of last gen, where the best version of multiplat is on ps4.
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Old 29-10-2013, 08:46
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Doesn't look that much better than some current generation games.
To be fair I doubt we'll see a huge improvement in next gen games graphics for a year or so. Most early PS3 and 360 look a bit meh by today's standards on consoles.
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Old 29-10-2013, 08:48
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IGN have thier own comparison video, seems to have different footage. I can't see a great deal of difference, XBox one looks brighter, I always find videos difficult to compare though.

http://uk.ign.com/videos/2013/10/28/...ics-comparison
It's very interesting that the IGN video seems to show much clearer images for the XBO. The DigitalFoundry video makes the XBO version look extremely dark with bad shadows - the IGN shows the complete opposite. The DigitalFoundry video makes the PS4 version look better in most respects, but IGN makes the XBO look better...
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Old 29-10-2013, 08:52
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These were the BF4 videos uploaded by jackfrags:

http://www.youtube.com/user/jackfrags

Watch them in 1440p if you can!
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Old 29-10-2013, 08:54
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Well 2d we cant compare textures, many ps3 titles had better textures or better texture filtering but they were always cast aside as not important, at least thats what df said in terms of all stars racing. And feom whats shown, in mp mode, xbox one downgrades the textures, so then you end up with less aa, lower framerate, lower textures, less effects and lower resolution on the console that costs 80 more. Care to move the goalposts again?
I'm not moving anything, like I said, not sure what you want? You appear to be nursing wounds over past DF Face-Offs and carrying these around with you in the form of a grudge which doesn't seem too healthy to me. Did you read the article as it clearly underlines the PS4 as the superior version from a technical perspective.

However, I'm far from the only person saying the X1 version looks sharper and more detailed though. It's quite plain to see, that's just an honest assessment.. while I'm not a fan of Battlefield's visual style I still think both versions look quite good here.
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Old 29-10-2013, 08:55
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They both look a bit meh

Doesn't seem worth arguing which look a bit meher
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Old 29-10-2013, 09:03
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get to grips with esram and dme? what about ps4? isn't their toolset going to improve? what when devs start using compute?

As usual you are straight in on the defence. There already people who have played the game saying ps4's multi looks better than xboxone single player !

Looks like a reversal of last gen, where the best version of multiplat is on ps4.
The wink... it's a joke. In case you don't understand what I'm referring to it's a play on suffering the countless years Sony fans were telling us that once 3rd party devs get to grips with the Cell architecture then things will change.

I find it all pretty funny but it appears some of you certainly have a point to prove/axes to grind. I didn't realise this past gen Sony fans were abused to point of suffering PTSD. You should of said.
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Old 29-10-2013, 09:07
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No worries 2d, just want to see what bias you will be going for this gen, so now sharpness is the most important thing? Have I got good news for you, go into your tv settings, select image or picture, ehichever your tv ui has, go to sharpness, move to 100, BAM, instant next gen from your xbox 360.
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Old 29-10-2013, 09:10
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I find it all pretty funny but it appears some of you certainly have a point to prove/axes to grind. I didn't realise this past gen Sony fans were abused to point of suffering PTSD. You should of said.
I have been saying it was worse during the PS3

I think the problem is Xbox fans are now feeling under attack, they have big issues with the FUD been thrown around and dislike the sh** storm of hate that has target the Xbox 1. In a lot of cases these same people saw no problem with it when the shoe was on the other foot. So yes I think a lot of people do have an axe to grind, or at the very least a lot of people who went through this on PS3 are thinking "Karma Bitches".
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Old 29-10-2013, 09:18
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No worries 2d, just want to see what bias you will be going for this gen, so now sharpness is the most important thing? Have I got good news for you, go into your tv settings, select image or picture, ehichever your tv ui has, go to sharpness, move to 100, BAM, instant next gen from your xbox 360.
Good God!
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Old 29-10-2013, 09:27
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FFS! I haven't even looked at the video cos tbh I don't care. Whatever differences you all might be able to see and back up with relentless facts and figures I can guarantee they won't make any difference to me when I'm lining up a tank in my RPG sights.
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Old 29-10-2013, 09:28
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Is anyone really going to notice a difference when playing? Unless you're sitting close & have a 50" plus screen, the difference between 720p & 1080p is barely noticeable and if you're on a 32", you won't see a difference. The difference between 720p & 900p will be even less noticeable. Also, the argument about colours, brightness etc is stupid because everyone will have their TVs or monitors set to different picture settings, so it'll be different for each person.

Is there going to be a thread like this for every single multiplatform game that's released? The same people having childish arguments over a couple of pixels? Just enjoy the game FFS!!!!
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