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Old 29-10-2013, 23:38
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The B.P.I. have won a court ruling that will enforce the closure of 21 download (piracy) sites.

The full list of 21 piracy sites are listed in todays article to come into effect from Wednesday 30th October. (Today)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24726078

Good news for the artists & legal download sites (i-Tunes, Amazon, 7Digital & MP3retailers like Sainsburys,etc).. but not so good news for illegal downloaders.

It'll be interesting to see how this affects the charts from next week as most illegal downloaders won't be able to get their free new/current releases from their usual source.
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Old 29-10-2013, 23:39
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Interesting news. It won't really stop piracy altogether as it's very easy to get around web blocks. Just use a proxy or VPN. Did blocking The Pirate Bay affect piracy? No. So how will this help? Those who want to download from sites IT Law lecturers don't approve will find a way around it.
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Old 29-10-2013, 23:44
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Very true.
There's always an alternative, some will do their research & find a way round paying, while some won't bother, admit defeat & start paying.
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Old 29-10-2013, 23:53
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I do my research I'm writing a paper for an Irish law journal on the subject of online piracy and copyright law.
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Old 29-10-2013, 23:59
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lets face facts here, album sales are terrible at the moment, so from a business point of view this move from the bpi makes perfect sense. music is so accessible these days through sites like youtube for people to try before they buy and there is no excuse really for people not paying for the music they like.

i do agree with mark mulligan's comment in that article though, there are other factors effecting music sales right now that need to be taken into consideration.
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Old 30-10-2013, 00:29
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oh what a hassle. the bastards.
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Old 30-10-2013, 01:10
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It's all well and good blocking these download sites but it won't stop a dozen or so more popping up in their place, plus there are many proxy servers online that can be used for free.
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Old 30-10-2013, 03:46
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That it?! Heh, this is just too easy.
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Old 30-10-2013, 11:46
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Every one of them are available by using the pirate browser, TOR or any of a plethora of easy to use proxy/VPN services.

This censorship is pointless and will achieve nothing.
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Old 30-10-2013, 11:48
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They just don't get it do they?

This really won't make any difference to those who are hardcore downloaders. I don't think anything ever will - pirates are always ten steps ahead.
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Old 30-10-2013, 12:05
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It's all well and good blocking these download sites but it won't stop a dozen or so more popping up in their place, plus there are many proxy servers online that can be used for free.
Exactly. It's like a constant game of Whack-A-Mole. They block one site and more pop up.
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Old 30-10-2013, 12:40
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They just don't get it do they?

This really won't make any difference to those who are hardcore downloaders. I don't think anything ever will - pirates are always ten steps ahead.
The question is will it make a difference to the downloading habits of Mr/Ms average...who may be IT green and for one reason or another can't bypass ISP blocks....I suspect the film/music industry are more concerned about getting these punters to go down the legal route knowing full well the hard core down loaders will be a much smaller and tougher nut to crack.
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Old 30-10-2013, 13:11
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What a pointless act, anyone who is clever enough to illegally download is also clever enough to get past a block.
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Old 30-10-2013, 14:05
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Do people just not use the foreign URLs? i.e. using the XXXXXXXX.no instead of XXXXXXXX.co.uk?

Maybe the BPI should focus on ways to actually make purchasing music more appealing rather than investing money into court orders, which are ultimately a waste of time.
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Old 30-10-2013, 14:12
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NOOOO NOT MP3SKULL!!!

What am i gonna do??


Best download site out of them all.
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Old 30-10-2013, 14:25
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I hope they don't block my downloading website :I
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Old 30-10-2013, 15:48
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Good. Downloading music illegally is no different from walking into a shop, taking something and walking out of the door without paying. It's theft.
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Old 30-10-2013, 15:59
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Good news for the artists & legal download sites (i-Tunes, Amazon, 7Digital & MP3retailers like Sainsburys,etc).. but not so good news for illegal downloaders.

It'll be interesting to see how this affects the charts from next week as most illegal downloaders won't be able to get their free new/current releases from their usual source.
This ineffective manoeuvre can be bypassed with almost no effort.

Good. Downloading music illegally is no different from walking into a shop, taking something and walking out of the door without paying. It's theft.
Yeah, except it's actually not like that at all.
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Old 30-10-2013, 16:07
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Yeah, except it's actually not like that at all.
In what way does stealing music differ from stealing an item of, say, clothing out of a shop?
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Old 30-10-2013, 16:56
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In what way does stealing music differ from stealing an item of, say, clothing out of a shop?
It doesn't.
However, the piracy issue doesn't excuse the music business from taking a long, hard look at itself and doing something to ensure they have a business model for the 21st century that considers the musician as well as their diminishing profits.
It's like blaming the road for a car that doesn't ride well as the suspension is crap and outdated. Design a new, more efficient car as well as patching up the road.
Piracy is a poor excuse for companies without a clue to do nothing.

In fact the analogy of stealing clothes in itself perfectly demonstrates outdated thinking that won't solve the difficulty. Whereas stealing clothes actually removes a physical item that has cost the company money to produce and the shop to buy, and prevents the item being sold; illegal downloading does nothing of the sort.
You can't calculate an actual loss, as there is no way of knowing
1) how many sales are lost because someone has downloaded instead of buying,
2) how many sales are made as people download then buy afterwards
3) how many items that have been downloaded would never have been sales anyway.

Instead of sticking to old arguments, new times need new thinking - it's the only way to solve the problem.
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Old 30-10-2013, 17:38
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In fact the analogy of stealing clothes in itself perfectly demonstrates outdated thinking that won't solve the difficulty. Whereas stealing clothes actually removes a physical item that has cost the company money to produce and the shop to buy, and prevents the item being sold; illegal downloading does nothing of the sort.
problem.
It still denies a sale, which in turn effects all of the above.
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Old 30-10-2013, 17:40
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It still denies a sale, which in turn effects all of the above.
Except it doesn't.
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Old 30-10-2013, 17:47
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Good. Downloading music illegally is no different from walking into a shop, taking something and walking out of the door without paying. It's theft.
Really?
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Old 30-10-2013, 18:38
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NOOOO NOT MP3SKULL!!!

What am i gonna do??


Best download site out of them all.
I hate to admit it, but I've used that website a couple of times. I shouldn't have used it though as I'm supposed to be an IT Lawyer and all
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Old 30-10-2013, 23:24
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I hate to admit it, but I've used that website a couple of times. I shouldn't have used it though as I'm supposed to be an IT Lawyer and all

(Dons barristers wig & gown)...

Ah, but I put it to the defence that you were off-duty at the time of visting said website... yer honour.

(Removes barristers wig & gown)

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