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SequShor
04-11-2013
Originally Posted by SkipTracer:
“Does anybody know if you can get data on the PAYG tariff without buying a add-on and if so how much is it per MB.

Don't like buying things that have time limits on them as that is nothing more than daylight robbery. ”

There is no PAYG data tariff on EE, but brand new 4GEE sims come with 50MB "free" to help you get started when setting up a new phone.

This is good, because it means that if you want the SIM for data only, you can get started with a £10 top-up and then as long you don't make a call or send an SMS there is nothing your device can do to stop you having £10 credit remaining, from which you can buy a 1GB data add-on.

Kinda agree about not liking time limits. 90 days would be nice, but they've got to make money somehow from us low-bandwidth power-users
klendathu
04-11-2013
Originally Posted by SkipTracer:
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Don't like buying things that have time limits on them as that is nothing more than daylight robbery. ”


The entire operation at EE is daylight robbery to be honest
mickwall
04-11-2013
Just had this email from them, re: the 4g new sim cards.

"We have been made aware of a problem when you tried to use your combi SIM card, which may have meant you were unable to top up and use it. Please accept our sincere apologies for the inconvenience this has caused you. The issue was due to a system error which has now been resolved.
We will have your SIM up and working within 1-2 days and a £5 credit will be applied to say thank you for your patience. We hope you will enjoy your new EE SIM. "
12december1984
04-11-2013
Originally Posted by Steven L Hunter:
“Good luck with it hope it goes well ”

Thank you, I hope it goes well too.

I know every phone company has it's fair share of coverage issues but out of the frying pan into the fire I guess .

It's all well and good EE trying to get as many people on 4G where possible BUT it has to try and remember the early adopters too!
Steven L Hunter
04-11-2013
Originally Posted by 12december1984:
“Thank you, I hope it goes well too.

I know every phone company has it's fair share of coverage issues but out of the frying pan into the fire I guess .

It's all well and good EE trying to get as many people on 4G where possible BUT it has to try and remember the early adopters too!”

If you have 4GEE what is it that's faster about it than the other networks they keep going on about is it 100Mbps download or something?
mickwall
04-11-2013
This was my HTC One on T-Mob 3g and my pals iPhone 5 on EE 4g sat next to each other in the same room.

Same network, but quite a difference?

http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/a...2192684593.jpg
jchamier
04-11-2013
Originally Posted by Steven L Hunter:
“If you have 4GEE what is it that's faster about it than the other networks they keep going on about is it 100Mbps download or something?”

4G on EE is pretty similar to 4G on O2 and 4G on Vodafone.

I see 30meg+ most of the time on 4GEE, and my friend saw 50meg on O2 4G yesterday. Both on iPhone 5s handsets.

3G on EE in many areas CAN be significantly faster than O2 and Vodafone - I used to get 12meg regularly, and peaked at 19meg at midnight, my mate on O2 was getting 1meg or 3meg at best.
qasdfdsaq
05-11-2013
Originally Posted by jchamier:
“4G on EE is pretty similar to 4G on O2 and 4G on Vodafone.”

Vodafone yes, O2 no. EE has five times the spectrum of O2 and are running with top speeds of 150Mbps to 300Mbps (just begun rollout on the latter).

Vodafone are capable of the same but only do up to 150Mbps for now. O2 are permanently limited to 75Mbps with current handsets and 3 won't be able to go higher than ~115Mbps without LTE-A


I'm eagerly awaiting OFCOM's long overdue second round of 3G/4G network comparisons, last time they did one O2 came out top despite having least spectrum, but that was nearly 5 years ago.
jchamier
05-11-2013
Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq:
“Vodafone yes, O2 no. EE has five times the spectrum of O2 and are running with top speeds of 150Mbps to 300Mbps (just begun rollout on the latter).”

The LTE-A aggregation stuff is very interesting, but too far away, as even modern handsets like the Samsung S4 and the iPhone 5s can't use. Huawei still don't make a Wireless MiFi box yet, due early next year - so its a technical curiosity for most people for another 12months+ - sadly.

The upto 150meg Cat3/4 is much more interesting, we've seen reports on this forum of people getting 98megabit/sec downloads on handsets using the Speedtest.net app.

However in much of the country the EE network is still 10mhz only mode, with the legacy Orange and T-Mobile 2G networks still active. Those need to be merged and the 1800mhz spectrum re-farmed over to the 4G and then maybe they can use more than 20mhz. That would be interesting.

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“I'm eagerly awaiting OFCOM's long overdue second round of 3G/4G network comparisons, last time they did one O2 came out top despite having least spectrum, but that was nearly 5 years ago.”

Yes, that would be a good article. Nobody could believe O2 was best last time, since most people here if they can find an O2 3G signal get speeds of around 1megabit/sec. In 2007/2008 the MBNL sharing started, and that started to show benefits to T-mobile and Three in 2010 onwards. So, I agree, high time for another formal survey!
qasdfdsaq
06-11-2013
Originally Posted by jchamier:
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However in much of the country the EE network is still 10mhz only mode, with the legacy Orange and T-Mobile 2G networks still active. Those need to be merged and the 1800mhz spectrum re-farmed over to the 4G and then maybe they can use more than 20mhz. That would be interesting. ”

Interesting indeed, I wasn't aware of that. My area (Edinburgh) has had 20Mhz for quite some time, and we actually had 20Mhz here several months before EE announced it was supposed to be. The only other place I frequent having no 4G at all, it's been a while since I saw 10Mhz in use on EE.

Originally Posted by jchamier:
“The upto 150meg Cat3/4 is much more interesting, we've seen reports on this forum of people getting 98megabit/sec downloads on handsets using the Speedtest.net app. ”

I think I saw a screenshot of 102Mbps once on a Galaxy S4 (cat 3, "up to 100Mbps" device), and I've personally had 70-80Mbps a few times. Cat 4 devices should be able to get considerably more than 98.


Originally Posted by jchamier:
“Yes, that would be a good article. Nobody could believe O2 was best last time, since most people here if they can find an O2 3G signal get speeds of around 1megabit/sec. In 2007/2008 the MBNL sharing started, and that started to show benefits to T-mobile and Three in 2010 onwards. So, I agree, high time for another formal survey!”

I must be lucky, it's been a while since I saw less than 3Mbps on O2 Typically for me they get 8-12Mbps despite an almost complete lack of DC-HSDPA, whereas just today EE's "Up to 42Mbps" DC-HSPA+ consistently delivered a top speed of 2.5Mbps... with "full bars" signal.
freetoview33
06-11-2013
On 4GEE the fastest I have received is around 63mbps but normally is around the 40 area, but some times as low as 14.

Although I live in Bristol (Apparently a well connected place), was on Orange for years! But never got a 3G signal.
12december1984
06-11-2013
Originally Posted by Steven L Hunter:
“If you have 4GEE what is it that's faster about it than the other networks they keep going on about is it 100Mbps download or something?”

Personally I've had nothing nowhere near those speeds.

You can *theoretically* get such speeds under certain conditions, the most I've had myself was around 66 Mbps earlier on in the year.

I get around 16 Mbps where I live in Derby, have to stand halfway down the drive to get anything over 20 Mbps .
jchamier
06-11-2013
Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq:
“Interesting indeed, I wasn't aware of that. My area (Edinburgh) has had 20Mhz for quite some time, and we actually had 20Mhz here several months before EE announced it was supposed to be. The only other place I frequent having no 4G at all, it's been a while since I saw 10Mhz in use on EE.”

Nice :-/ I've only seen 20mhz once, when visiting Southampton. If you look at the online coverage checker the yellow 20mhz is dwarfed by the huge amount of green 10mhz. I suspect they're probably working on getting 10mhz rolled out much further before refarming. Luckily we don't have the 5mhz deployment the USA has!!

I get around 15megabit on average, dropping down to 8meg indoors, and around 35meg when its quiet (ie late at night).

On 3G, I was getting 8meg on average and dropping down to 2, but peaking at 19 late at night (and close to mast).

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“I think I saw a screenshot of 102Mbps once on a Galaxy S4 (cat 3, "up to 100Mbps" device), and I've personally had 70-80Mbps a few times. Cat 4 devices should be able to get considerably more than 98.

I must be lucky, it's been a while since I saw less than 3Mbps on O2 Typically for me they get 8-12Mbps despite an almost complete lack of DC-HSDPA, whereas just today EE's "Up to 42Mbps" DC-HSPA+ consistently delivered a top speed of 2.5Mbps... with "full bars" signal. ”

Huh, yes, that's not right. O2 is known as "3G but very slow" around here, but 2 years ago O2 and Vodafone were both "2G only" networks. Strangely this was a town where T-mobile was much better than Orange - just mast positioning chance I guess.
mickwall
07-11-2013
Jeez, EE have been true to their word.

They've finally activated the new 4G PAYG SIMs (original sent out dead) and added the £5 free credit to my account like they said they would. #shocked
plymouthbloke1974
07-11-2013
Why would that shock you?
paulker
07-11-2013
Originally Posted by plymouthbloke1974:
“Why would that shock you?”

You may know my saga plymouth but I have now left EE. EE told me they would unlock my iPhone and have charged me for it. On my last bill there is an equipment charge which I had previously paid for as well. I have escalated both the equipment charge and the unlocking which I have been waiting a few weeks for. The lady at EE told me that once an issue is escalated they have 6 weeks to resolve it.

Surely if an issue is escalated it should be resolved quickly. EE have gone to the dogs. I used to be a fan but they truly are shockingly bad these days.
japaul
07-11-2013
If anyone is finding EE's 500MB limit a bit tight you could try their petabyte (1 million GB) bundle. Only £8million.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...ta-bundle.html
qasdfdsaq
07-11-2013
No expiry date either. Us ordinary consumers getting ripped off again :I
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