So, my poor wonderful 9200 that worked so well for so long has finally been replaced.

Now I have a Fox, and three questions to go with it.

1. Deleting a programme from pause. On the 9200 I used to watch a programme, pause it when I'd finished, bring up that handy quick list of stored programmes and delete it. How do I quick delete on the Fox?

2. It's back to that easy quick list of stored programmes accessed from one button press on the 9200 remote control. Where is it on the Fox remote control?

3. Finally, timer pogrammes. Is there a quick way to get to the schedule?

Many thanks for any help.

1/ Not sure if you can do it from Pause but from Stop it should go back to recordings list with the recording you have just watched highlighted. Press the OPT+ button (just below the volume control) and a pop up options box appears with DELETE highlighted. Press OK.

2/ That will be the MEDIA button. It gives access to recordings plus video and audio files stored on USB drives, network devices like a NAS drive etc.

3/ I don't know of a single button way to get into the recording schedule. Just by pressing the Guide button to bring up the EPG then press the "yellow" button to enter the schedule.

Careful; whilst it is usually the program you have just watched if a recording has started in the same series whilst you have been watching then the highlighted recording will be the one above the one you have just watched.

Thanks very much for the replies. I'll try those ideas.

I think this is becoming more of a complaint thread from me now, rather than genuinly asking for help.

On the 9200 it was pause, list button, delete, confirm
On the Fox it's stop (meaning a channel comes through irritatingly), media, OPT+, delete, confirm delete (which incidentally wont 'move' right from no to yes, and why isn't yes the assumed option anyway.)
One extra step and two irritants along the way!

Continuing the theme of complaint thread, rather than genuinly asking for help

How do you stop the clock appearing after a while when a progamme is paused? I can't find an option marked "get rid of pointless 90s screensaver".

The 9200 could sort recorded programmes. Can you sort the media list?

For all their fiddling they've not put in the useful feature of confirming the name of the programme you're deleting at the confirmation of delete stage. "Are you sure you want to delete a programme, but we're not confirming which one, so tough."

I must find the wishlist thread here.

Alternative: after STOP, press OK. You get a list of possible actions, one of which is DELETE. The number of button presses is probably the same, but the OK and DOWN buttons are easier to find.

-- from CyberSimian in the UK

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On the Fox it's stop (meaning a channel comes through irritatingly), media, OPT+, delete, confirm delete (which incidentally wont 'move' right from no to yes, and why isn't yes the assumed option anyway.)[/QUOTE]

You don't need to press the media button, it should go straight back to the media list when you press stop.

As CyberSimian says, with the progamme still highlighted you can just press OK to get the options list including delete.

It defaults to no so that you have to explicitly carry out one extra step before your recording is lost forever. If you've ever deleted a recording by mistake (or if you've ever experienced a phantom double key press from your remote, as I have) then you might appreciate that extra check point in the process. And at the end of the day it's one key press! You expend more energy lifting your teacup/wine glass to your lips than you do flexing one finger by a few millimetres.

You're probably simply experiencing the feeling of awkwardness which arises when you have to re-learn a process which you had become so familiar with that you could do it almost without thinking. It'll pass.

If you press Opt+ "Delete" is the highlighted option, so a couple of keypresses fewer to deal with

It's not even necessary to pause on the 9200. Simply press List whilst recording is still playing, paused or stopped. List shows subject programme highlighted. Then press Red button. Yes/No options are displayed with Yes highlighted by default. Press OK. Job done.

The Fox appears to be to tortuous. But is the Fox as bad as you describe? If, on the confirmation window you can't move from No to Yes how do you complete the procedure?

Colin

Oops. Sorry. I see others have already described good alternatives.

Thanks. That does work.




You're right I don't need to press media.

I personally find that giving an extra step to delete doesn't work. You get used to the extra step and press it without thinking.

I agree with your final point re awkwardness.

Thanks.

Thanks - that is a little quicker.

Is there a facility on the Fox to select multiple recordings for deletion (similar to the Green button on the 9200) and delete all the selected items with a single command. If so could someone describe the procedure? Thanks.

Colin

Yes the capability exists and is similar in operation to the 9200.

Thanks Martin. Having read recent threads comparing the 9200 series and the Humax HDRs I've been put off by some of the some of comments. I'm wondering how many of them are valid? I've read most of the HDR-FOX T2 manual which has re-assured me on some functions but has also raised lot of other questions on other functions. I've been intending to raise the latter in the forum but not got around to it yet. Now the option of a YouView or the new HDR-2000T PVR have complicated my choices.

Colin

I can only say that we have both the 9200T and the HDR-FOX T2; the HDR-FOX T2 is as usable as the 9200T and is more reliable at recording ( the accurate recording performance is MUCH better). The HDR-FOX T2 also benefits from the Custom Firmware that works alongside the standard firmware to add a large number of optional features. I am not a big user of the custom firmware but the ability to restore the recording schedule after a retune and the tools for monitoring the health of the hard disk and fixing various sorts of hard drive related problems without losing recordings are invaluable.

By all means ask questions.

The YouView box has better catch up services but is not as good a PVR as the HDR-FOX T2. The HDR-2000T appears to have very similar functionally to the HDR-FOX T2 but has more RAM and a faster processor. At the moment it isn't clear if it will be possible to develop custom firmware for it; until it is possible I would personally be inclined towards the HDR-FOX T2.

As much as I loved my 9200, the HDR T2 is a better all round bit of kit.

Lets face it we all hark back to features on older machines, and there are a couple of features from my old Digifusion that I wish I still had but that conked out a few years ago.

I've now purchased a HDR-FOX T2. There has been a number of pleasant surprises so far but I'm concerned that the "Media" folder style format of the HDR-FOX T2 is much less compatible with our viewing pattern than the "Recordings List" of the 9200. The majority of our recordings are watched the same or the following day ater they are recorded so on the 9200 are placed at the top of the "Recordings List" where they are readily accessible for playback and subsequent deletion en-bloc (selected by the Green button) at the end of the evening. Searching through the individual programme folders of the HDR-FOX T2 to check which have new recordings is relatively more time consuming. The nature of evening soap programmes which have variable occurrences through the days of the week and are subject to frequent changes makes this more difficult. It also appears that any recordings selected for deletion using either the Red "Select" or "Green" "Select all" buttons are not stored and are lost if one moves to another programme folder. As opposed to the 9200 which retains the selections until they are activated or manually deleted.

I can see the advantage of folders for grouping together multiple recordings in a series for viewing at a later date, but these tend to be a minority for us.

Any suggestions? The Custom Software maybe? My unit came with standard software 1.02.29 I have yet to investigate whether I need to update that and if the only option is to do it manually

Colin

There is a package - Flatten - which can be installed on the custom firmware. I don't use and haven't investigated it but I understand it can remove the folder structure for specified series.

Thanks for that info. I've read the info by Black Hole on the Flatten component of the custom firmware and it confirms that it does enable the removal of folders. I have yet to read up more on the custom firmware but from what I've read so far it has implications for me. Firstly I would need to install a cable from my router located in an upstairs room to my HDR-T2 in the lounge which is not easy. I would have to route it about 15m up through the roof space and back down via a tortuous route. Alternatively I could consider moving the modem and router to the lounge and accessing my PC upstairs by Wi-Fi. Not an attractive solution. Or maybe use a mains device (I forget what that is called).

Also as the HDR-T2 is new I'm expecting to be able to register for a 2 year guarantee with Humax. I'm reluctant to risk compromising the guarantee until I'm convinced the HDR-T2 does not have any inherent serious issues. I've already experienced a total loss of sound which I proved was not due to external equipment. A Factory Default procedure cleared the problem. Is loss of sound a known issue on the HDR-T2?

Colin

There are occasional reports of sound issues. They vary a lot in their nature due to the different ways the sound can be configured into different home systems.

Does the sound go from all outputs? I.e. HDMI, optical, scart/phono? Was it all channels, or just SD or just HD?

There use to be a few posts about Sony TVs and the HDMI sound from an HDR-FOX T2, but I haven’t seen any recently. The HDR-FOX has had a few tweeks to the HDMI software and so its worth being on a later version of the software if it is an HDMI issue.
1.02.32 is available from http://beta.humaxonline.co.uk/downloads/hdr-foxt2 and is even easier than a vestel to update.
But if your HDR-FOX RF connectors are positioned vertically to each other and you already on 1.03.06 don't downgrade as the electronics are not compatable with previous versions!

If you are conecting via HDMI it could still be your TV even it recognises HDMI from some other source. If you are connecting via HDMI is your TV on its latest software? It too may have had some HDMI improvements.


http://hummy.tv/forum/threads/does-not-like-my-sony-tv-no-sound-alternatives.2362/
http://hummy.tv/forum/threads/hdr-fox-t2-no-sound.1419/
http://hummy.tv/forum/threads/fox-t2-sound-output-while-watching-hd-channels.2241/
http://hummy.tv/forum/threads/digital-optical-sound-dropout.2569/
http://hummy.tv/forum/threads/hdr-fox-t2-no-multi-channel-sound-via-optical-output.2808/
http://hummy.tv/forum/threads/no-sound-on-sd-channels.2849/

An alternative to a wired connection is to use compatible wi-fi dongle on the HDR-FOX T2. The HDR-FOX has 2 USB ports and so you would still have 1 USB port free for an external disk or a hub connected to external disks?
The Humax branded dongle isn't very sensitive but more sensitive non-Humax branded ones are available for half the Humax price that will work on an HDR-FOX T2.
http://wiki.hummy.tv/wiki/FAQs#Which_WiFi_Dongle.3F



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Thanks for your comprehensive reply and links Luis. Sorry I've been slow in responding. I've been very much occupied with other commitments recently.

I've only had the one occurrence of the problem which was corrected by a Factory Default.

All outputs tested were affected (I don't have optical). I used multiple HDMI cables and connections to the TV. Likewise for scart Output. The Phono output was connected to another TV as well as the main one using a cable which is OK in it's normal use from another PVR. Multiple channels were tested on live TV and recordings made before and during the outage. The latter played back OK after the Factory Default. The issue continued for several days including several standby settings and power cycles. I can't be certain I tested both HD and SD channels but the probability is high that I did.

In view of the above and particularly that the Factory Default cleared it I'm convinced the issue was internal to the PVR. My software version is 1.02.29

My TV is a Panasonic. To be honest I've never considered software updates for it. I don't know if this is automatic or has to be triggered manually. It gives automatic prompts of the need for re-tuning.

Thanks again,

Colin

Thanks again for your reply I'd forgotten about the Wi-Fi option. Old age memory loss I'm afraid. Reaching the big 80 some time this month.


Of course. Memory loss again.

Colin