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Old 03-11-2013, 18:56
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This needed a thread because there are posters who come along and ask questions or express opinions who are shot down, belittled and often insulted by other forum members who claim to be the God on the topic and that their own view is so important, for anyone else to say anything contrary to their opinion is nothing short of idiocy and the ones doing so are imbeciles.

I have been a forum member since 2004 and this DW sub-forum is the most hostile place in the whole of DS. The politics thread is similar but you expect it to be. But DW is a TV show that everyone who comes in here enjoys. Yet the rudeness that is often encountered makes you believe that being a silent DW fan is the best way forward. After all you don't want to actually have an opinion about it because others will come down on you like a ton of bricks!

Can't we all be a bit friendlier to each other?
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Old 03-11-2013, 19:00
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No. Its just people get a little frustrated with bizarre unfounded claims, people who make statements of opinion as if they are fact and claim unnamed sources or 'fandom' to back them up, who mindlessly attack the show runner, who communicate via swear words and emoticons when they don't have a response. I think this forum is very friendly relatively speaking. But respect is to a degree earned.
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Old 03-11-2013, 19:01
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Too many fanatical opinionated narcissists, for it ever to be nice.
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Old 03-11-2013, 19:04
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No. Its just people get a little frustrated with bizarre unfounded claims, people who make statements of opinion as if they are fact and claim unnamed sources or 'fandom' to back them up, who mindlessly attack the show runner, who communicate via swear words and emoticons when they don't have a response. I think this forum is very friendly relatively speaking. But respect is to a degree earned.
Unfounded claims asides, isn't it not a posters right to criticise the showrunner if they feel it's warranted?
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Old 03-11-2013, 19:05
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No. Its just people get a little frustrated with bizarre unfounded claims, people who make statements of opinion as if they are fact and claim unnamed sources or 'fandom' to back them up, who mindlessly attack the show runner, who communicate via swear words and emoticons when they don't have a response. I think this forum is very friendly relatively speaking. But respect is to a degree earned.
This. Personally, I do feel that there are way too many posts here that directly attack Moffat or members of the DW team without any evidence. Needless hate. People constantly claiming things like the ratings are going down, etc, and the infamous (fortunately one-off) claim that anyone who likes the Moffat era wants to have sexual relations with the man, things like that. It is extremely annoying - ergo people are bound to get annoyed.
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Old 03-11-2013, 19:05
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People disagree about stuff.

In the history of woops, this doesn't qualify as a big one.
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Old 03-11-2013, 19:08
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This. Personally, I do feel that there are way too many posts here that directly attack Moffat or members of the DW team without any evidence. Needless hate. People constantly claiming things like the ratings are going down, etc, and the infamous (fortunately one-off) claim that anyone who likes the Moffat era wants to have sexual relations with the man, things like that. It is extremely annoying - ergo people are bound to get annoyed.
No one need to get annoyed if they just ignored what they considered banal and just concentrate on things they do want to discuss.
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Old 03-11-2013, 19:08
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Unfounded claims asides, isn't it not a posters right to criticise the showrunner if they feel it's warranted?
and its peoples right to challenge them on that. Especially when it is suspiciously constant in its stream of vitriol. I don't always love what Moffat does. So lets discuss it. Why? What? When? Not 'he ruined the show/wont watch anything he writes again/useless/Moffat is a liar/fans will want his head on a spike'. All unconstructive hyperbole which leaves no where to go.

Like any social situation first impressions on a forum are quite important and while everyone should be friendly and welcoming there is also a degree of responsibility on the person entering that 'community' to show others the respect they want themselves.
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Old 03-11-2013, 19:13
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and its peoples right to challenge them on that. Especially when it is suspiciously constant in its stream of vitriol. I don't always love what Moffat does. So lets discuss it. Why? What? When? Not 'he ruined the show/wont watch anything he writes again/useless/Moffat is a liar/fans will want his head on a spike'. All unconstructive hyperbole which leaves no where to go.

Like any social situation first impressions on a forum are quite important and while everyone should be friendly and welcoming there is also a degree of responsibility on the person entering that 'community' to show others the respect they want themselves.
My view is that I genuinely did enjoy the RTD era more than the current era because I personally feel detached from what Moffat is trying to achieve, yet somehow still feel interested enough to continue watching, for now.

Is the way I worded that statement (which is true) hyperbole or worth discussing?
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Old 03-11-2013, 19:15
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My view is that I genuinely did enjoy the RTD era more than the current era because I personally feel detached from what Moffat is trying to achieve, yet somehow still feel interested enough to continue watching, for now.

Is the way I worded that statement (which is true) hyperbole or worth discussing?
I think it leaves the door open for some good chatter about why you think that and the ways in which I agree or disagree in a good way.

Certainly better than '****** Moffat- hes ruined everything. It isn't the 50th anniversary. Angry face. Its the 8th. Angry face.angry face. Most fans agree with me angry face'.

of course people are free to communicate how they wish. That's great. And they will be responded to in kind.

Its like if I was having a drink with a friend in the pub and we were having a good debate about DW. Someone over hears and comes over and says 'Oh i like DW! But I think this...mind if I pull up a chair?' Brilliant! Love that.

What I wouldn't like is the same chat being interrupted by someone jumping up and down on our table with their fingers in their ears shouting 'Moffat/Tennant/RTD is rubbish! The shows doomed! Blah blah blah! at the top of their voice, not listening to anyone else, not open to others views or voices and tipping pork scratching's on our heads.
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Old 03-11-2013, 19:18
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Old 03-11-2013, 19:22
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Old 03-11-2013, 19:26
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Bla? Bla?? Surely not!!!
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Old 03-11-2013, 19:31
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No, I'm sure that the forums will never be nice. Even the smallest compliment or criticism towards anything is most likely to spawn a Ten/RTD vs. Eleven/Moffat fight.

I liken the forums to a Dalek covered in spikes. Electric spikes.
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Old 03-11-2013, 19:32
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This needed a thread because there are posters who come along and ask questions or express opinions who are shot down, belittled and often insulted by other forum members who claim to be the God on the topic and that their own view is so important, for anyone else to say anything contrary to their opinion is nothing short of idiocy and the ones doing so are imbeciles.

I have been a forum member since 2004 and this DW sub-forum is the most hostile place in the whole of DS. The politics thread is similar but you expect it to be. But DW is a TV show that everyone who comes in here enjoys. Yet the rudeness that is often encountered makes you believe that being a silent DW fan is the best way forward. After all you don't want to actually have an opinion about it because others will come down on you like a ton of bricks!

Can't we all be a bit friendlier to each other?
Personally, I have had a pleasant reception as a new member of the forum, even being from America. Sometimes someone has disagreed with my comment, but that is their right, just as it is my right to disagree with someone else's comment. The adult thing to do is either ignore the comment or be prepared to get into an endless battle with some people. Generally, I just go with the ignore route.
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Old 03-11-2013, 19:32
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Bla? Bla?? Surely not!!!
The Judoon never invented the full stop.
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Old 03-11-2013, 19:37
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Personally, I have had a pleasant reception as a new member of the forum, even being from America. Sometimes someone has disagreed with my comment, but that is their right, just as it is my right to disagree with someone else's comment. The adult thing to do is either ignore the comment or be prepared to get into an endless battle with some people. Generally, I just go with the ignore route.
Being a cousin from the North, I believe we invented that rule. Oh, and I'm sorry if I offended you . . .
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Old 03-11-2013, 19:38
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The Judoon never invented the full stop.
Sure they did. It's full stop or face the death penalty!
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Old 03-11-2013, 19:38
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No forums will ever be nice friendly place only IMO. It's hardly surprising that the Doctor Who forums, forums about a show that attracts a wide variety of people from all walks of life is no different.
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Old 03-11-2013, 19:38
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Personally, I have had a pleasant reception as a new member of the forum, even being from America. Sometimes someone has disagreed with my comment, but that is their right, just as it is my right to disagree with someone else's comment. The adult thing to do is either ignore the comment or be prepared to get into an endless battle with some people. Generally, I just go with the ignore route.
I tend to go with the endless battle route, but that's because I find it more fun.

I don't take anything said on here personally. though. Well, hardly ever....
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Old 03-11-2013, 19:43
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Personally, I enjoy posting here and hearing other people's viewpoints. Also think there's often a lot of humour..which is cool. It can get a bit, um, 'scratchy' at times, particularly when the programme is high-profile, but that's the world wide web for you. Then you can choose to engage, or go...nah.

One of the most interesting threads since I joined was the Old Who Better Than New Who one (can't be bothered to search for it) I called the long-departed poster as a troll (eventually; he got a bit obvious) because he clearly was....but there was some interesting and engaging debate along the way.

Mind you, anyone rips into Peter Davison, I'm going to get very annoyed and ask you to step outside.

No. That would be silly.
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Old 03-11-2013, 20:05
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Personally, I enjoy posting here and hearing other people's viewpoints. Also think there's often a lot of humour..which is cool. It can get a bit, um, 'scratchy' at times, particularly when the programme is high-profile, but that's the world wide web for you. Then you can choose to engage, or go...nah.

One of the most interesting threads since I joined was the Old Who Better Than New Who one (can't be bothered to search for it) I called the long-departed poster as a troll (eventually; he got a bit obvious) because he clearly was....but there was some interesting and engaging debate along the way.

Mind you, anyone rips into Peter Davison, I'm going to get very annoyed and ask you to step outside.

No. That would be silly.
I wouldn't rip into Peter Davison. Unless he ripped into me first!
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Old 03-11-2013, 20:07
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When I started watching Doctor Who in the summer I came and asked a bunch of questions, everyone was really great in answering and friendly.
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Old 03-11-2013, 20:08
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Mind you, anyone rips into Peter Davison, I'm going to get very annoyed and ask you to step outside.

No. That would be silly.
I'll be meeting Peter this weekend at HAL-CON. I did enjoy his "Doctor", but he is not my personal favourite. I'm looking forward to the Photo-op and autograph session. I'm still holding out hopes for the "Special" Soiree being held Saturday Night if I can get in.
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Old 03-11-2013, 20:11
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I wouldn't rip into Peter Davison. Unless he ripped into me first!


By the way, I have seen some posters being belittled when they didn't deserve it on this forum, and that ain't .....but it's been very rare and as an occasional lurker on some other forums, DS really doesn't seem like that on the whole. They've usually been 'called out' for it by the pleasant majority here anyway...

(You edited that before my reply, didn't you. )
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