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thenetworkbabe
03-11-2013
Originally Posted by chachachavvy:
“Yes, anyone who doesn't vote the way you want them to vote is stupid and unsophisticated and doltish. If you were a producer of Strictly would you keep in the celebs the audience least wanted to watch next week?”

The audience isn't voting for the list of people they would like to see most next week.There is no vote for who should go - which would be the only way to get nearer to achieving that result.

Most viewers are not voting. The minority that are may not reflect those that are not. Dave, on past history, may have the 20-30% of the vote (though much less might keep him in) that suppoted John Sergeant, Russell Grant and Ann Widdicombe. That doesn't mean that most, or many, viewers want him to stay. Nearly every viewer who didn't vote for him might want him out.

The producers have to judge what impact he is having on their viewers as a whole. The judges comments about him being stale, and unfunny, and the producers failure to build him up with gimicks (like Ann and Russell) with cannons etc, suggest they want him out too. They built him up as the joke act, but they may well find him as unentertaining as many of us do. In the longer term, they have to consider the damage the joke act does to the rest of the show. With top two contenders in the bottom two, and the people with show stories going out to him, they may conclude they are losing more than they gain. With no growth stories as the contestants who might provide them go out, and the contenders with no votes, the end of the series loses both its narrative, and its unpredictability.
claire2281
03-11-2013
Originally Posted by SueDoku:
“Very true. I'm horrified at the venom of some of the attacks on Dave on these boards - no, of course he shouldn't still be in the contest as the final draws nearer, but neither should Mark, Fiona etc etc - and I'm sure that they won't be in a few more weeks. A truly bad dancer has never won SCD - although a few truly good ones have lost.

Dave is a nice, decent man who is (or was) having some fun - and neither he nor his supporters deserve comments such as the 'not being able to count up to five' one above.”

Quite. It's not like he's out injuring the other dancers, bad mouthing them, starting hate campaigns to make them look bad...He's just getting on with what he does to the best of his very limited ability. The way some people have to make their dislike for that personal (as though they feel they can vindicate themselves if they try to convince that he's a horrible person) is a bit tragic.

Originally Posted by isledance:
“Yes it's called integrity....!”

Or snobbery?

The truth of the matter is the show is biased towards the dancing ability all the way up to the final. The judges have two chances to decide who stays with their scores and the dance off the public have only one. Can't say fairer than that.

I have no problem with people voting for whatever the heck they want tbh. Why would I? I doubt many of Strictly's 10-11 million audience know the first thing about ballroom dancing, they just know what they enjoyed watching. Personally, I'm loving Natalie and think she combines skill with ability to perform. Others don't enjoy her dancing. Fair enough! If they don't get as much enjoyment out of watching her as they do others then I wouldn't expect them to vote for her. Similarly I would never bother voting for Abbey because her performances leave me cold.
isledance
03-11-2013
Originally Posted by allaboard:
“Hold on.....you've just chastised someone in another thread about resorting to insults to make a point......”

I know it's catching.... But I don't start it.... Do I ?
Bouzouki Boy
03-11-2013
Originally Posted by isledance:
“It was meant that way ............ Sarcastic as ever, or is it a trifle caustic !”

I was caught out by it too. Sarcasm? I think you are being a bit harsh on yourself. Cynical maybe. I think you have judged some of the anger shown on here over the last two weeks results very well.
Alli-F
03-11-2013
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“Thats not the format. The viewers can't counter the flaw in the voting format. If we think 7 people should stay now, and 2 or 3 should go, we can't practically vote for 7 to stay every week, or vote for the weakest to go. The vote can't achieve what the majority want to achieve..

You can be second in the scoreboard and 95% of the audience may think you should stay. but your vote may be tiny. People will vote for people with specific cases. They may vote on merit - but only once for for whoever was top. Some will vote for someone who takes his shirt off. They will vote for Fiona because she has a bit of journey story plus Anton, and looks in danger. 20-30 % of them in recent years will vote for whoever is worst - even if the judges are restrained in pointing the obvious out. The anti-judge voter may also be the more determined to vote anti-judge than anyone is to keep the best contestants in.

The vote can reflect what those minorities want because they can concentrate their vote to get it. . Those without a cause that week (people who look safe like Rachel ) and those who come in the top 3, but not top, and have no pre-existing fanbase (Abbey) , can end up in the dance off - with hardly anyone agreeing they should be there .

The problem is even more obvious if you ask who would go if people voted for who they wanted to go this week? That voting system would dispose of the unfunny joke acts early. However, it would probably bring its own problems later on as the usual racial, regional, and sex biases, and tactical voting, came into play.”


Well then everyone needs to stop thinking about it and actually do it. You can't moan about the result if you didn't vote, or you can but you look foolish.

You get 5 free votes this year so there's really no excuse if your favourite is the bottom 2 and you didn't vote.
allaboard
03-11-2013
Originally Posted by isledance:
“I know it's catching.... But I don't start it.... Do I ?”

Ahhhh, riiiigggggght.
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