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Why is the show selling Tamera short?
You read many comments on here about how the show is pushing Tamera on us, but the last 2 weeks have been stupid song choices for her and left her open to easy criticism.
1. Giving her Listen to do. Dressing her as Beyonce. Styling her hair to match. What are they thinking of? Just setting her up as a Beyonce wannerbe! 2. Wishing on a star is Disco era, I know I was there. We all looked forward to this as us Boys didn't want to dance until the slow numbers came on, but it is not in the spirit of the theme! Further it is perceived as an easy song to sing and although Tamera did a good rendition it did not look like a challenge as she made it look easy as well. She can do up tempo as in week 1 and this should have been the chance to show she can have fun with a number as a 16 year old! Abi took a Disco theme and changed it to suit and the public said fair enough but poor Tamera got lumbered with this and didn't really have anywhere to go with it! I hope next week they give something more risky and at least give her the chance to spread her wings a little! If She is unable to fly, well so be it! |
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In all fairness, if she was likeable, she would probably win.
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This is why I'm starting to challenge the notion that Tamera was ever Plan A. It seems that she was always this distraction to prevent the real Plan A from getting the backburn of the overpraise.
Personally I think Tamera's fabuloso and I'm a big fan but was she really the Plan A? Did the XF producers really think she would go that far? I'm starting to think Sam Bailey was.
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This is why I'm starting to challenge the notion that Tamera was ever Plan A. It seems that she was always this distraction to prevent the real Plan A from getting the backburn of the overpraise.
Personally I think Tamera's fabuloso and I'm a big fan but was she really the Plan A? Did the XF producers really think she would go that far? I'm starting to think Sam Bailey was. ![]() |
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apologies for using these words , but if they really want a young, current, credible artist then why have we had 80s, disco and big band as themes within the first 5 weeks
having said that I don't buy into the conspiracy theory that tamera is being sabotaged , her song choices have been no worse or better than any of the other acts , everyone has been getting dodgy songs |
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This is why I'm starting to challenge the notion that Tamera was ever Plan A. It seems that she was always this distraction to prevent the real Plan A from getting the backburn of the overpraise.
Personally I think Tamera's fabuloso and I'm a big fan but was she really the Plan A? Did the XF producers really think she would go that far? I'm starting to think Sam Bailey was. ![]() In fairness to Nicloe it maybe that she has had to spend so much energy putting fires out around Abi and Hannah that she took her eye off the ball! |
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apologies for using these words , but if they really want a young, current, credible artist then why have we had 80s, disco and big band as themes within the first 5 weeks
having said that I don't buy into the conspiracy theory that tamera is being sabotaged , her song choices have been no worse or better than any of the other acts , everyone has been getting dodgy songs |
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apologies for using these words , but if they really want a young, current, credible artist then why have we had 80s, disco and big band as themes within the first 5 weeks
having said that I don't buy into the conspiracy theory that tamera is being sabotaged , her song choices have been no worse or better than any of the other acts , everyone has been getting dodgy songs The thing is with all the stuff in the press, regardless of my opinion of it (again I love Tamera), but did they honestly think Tamera would win with those stories? Press can be a powerful influence as we learned with Danyl, Maloney and Katie W. Tamera is not explicitly being sabotaged but I do think she is a 'disguise' for the real Plan A. The fact that she was called a Beyonce impersonator during her pimp slot just reinforces that for me. Almost seems like Gary (ie the producers?) wanted people to think in a certain way about her? It's like Misha B who was called a bully during the pimp slot - it's something that people will remember. |
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This is why I'm starting to challenge the notion that Tamera was ever Plan A. It seems that she was always this distraction to prevent the real Plan A from getting the backburn of the overpraise.
Personally I think Tamera's fabuloso and I'm a big fan but was she really the Plan A? Did the XF producers really think she would go that far? I'm starting to think Sam Bailey was. ![]() I've had a feeling they deliberately weakend the final 12 in order to guarantee a win for Tamera (by ejecting popular singers like Melanie, Paul and Joseph Whelan), but if so, that has really blown up in their faces. |
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Tamera was definitely Plan A at Bootcamp, Judges House and when the live shows commenced. I suspect what has happened is that they quickly found out (to their horror) that she was not overly popular in the voting and this has thrown them into a state of chaos and led them to rewrite their script and start looking at other acts.
I've had a feeling they deliberately weakend the final 12 in order to guarantee a win for Tamera (by ejecting popular singers like Melanie, Paul and Joseph Whelan), but if so, that has really blown up in their faces. |
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True. They should mix it up do an older theme one night and then a current theme the next. Alternate it every week.
The thing is with all the stuff in the press, regardless of my opinion of it (again I love Tamera), but did they honestly think Tamera would win with those stories? Press can be a powerful influence as we learned with Danyl, Maloney and Katie W. Tamera is not explicitly being sabotaged but I do think she is a 'disguise' for the real Plan A. The fact that she was called a Beyonce impersonator during her pimp slot just reinforces that for me. Almost seems like Gary (ie the producers?) wanted people to think in a certain way about her? It's like Misha B who was called a bully during the pimp slot - it's something that people will remember. |
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I think the reason behind the themes is because last years voting pattern showed them that the older viewer is the most dominant voting force. Christopher topped the first 7 weeks for god sake. Tamera has had a LOT better song choices than most actually - compare hers to Nicholas, Lorna, Shelly, Miss Dynamix, Kingsland, Abi and even Hannah. Much better. I think the producers aren't sabotaging Tamera, but have just realised she isn't popular, and isn't getting the votes, and are focusing on someone that is getting the votes - Luke Friend.
imo that just doesn't work for this show however because the majority of the contestants don't fit that mould , so we end up with something that looks confused and lacking direction |
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apologies for using these words , but if they really want a young, current, credible artist then why have we had 80s, disco and big band as themes within the first 5 weeks
having said that I don't buy into the conspiracy theory that tamera is being sabotaged , her song choices have been no worse or better than any of the other acts , everyone has been getting dodgy songs |
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I think the reason behind the themes is because last years voting pattern showed them that the older viewer is the most dominant voting force. Christopher topped the first 7 weeks for god sake. Tamera has had a LOT better song choices than most actually - compare hers to Nicholas, Lorna, Shelly, Miss Dynamix, Kingsland, Abi and even Hannah. Much better. I think the producers aren't sabotaging Tamera, but have just realised she isn't popular, and isn't getting the votes, and are focusing on someone that is getting the votes - Luke Friend.
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She's bringing in some ratings and voting cash. That's what she's there for.
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Tamera was drawn late in the first two live shows and given gushing praise by the judges (telling her she was the star of the series etc.). If it's the case that she polled poorly, then they probably quickly gave up the ghost.....they would have realised there was nothing they could do to get her over the finishing line, not after that massive amount of pimping
She was pimped to the max going into the live shows, producers must have thought they had struck gold. Then...she polls crap on the first vote. Next week, ANOTHER late slot and OTT praise, then....no change. So they moved on! |
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You're completely right!
She was pimped to the max going into the live shows, producers must have thought they had struck gold. Then...she polls crap on the first vote. Next week, ANOTHER late slot and OTT praise, then....no change. So they moved on! Also she was never really pimped if you think about it pre-lives? Her room audition was never really shown (as a group Silver Rock which isn't even on the audition page), her bootcamp performance was first of the 6 to go through, her JH performance was first of the 6 again. Only her arena audition was massive and huge and pimp slotted. The rest weren't. Melanie and Hannah were much more. Sam B and Nick were even more than the whole lot. Which is another reason why I get the feeling she wasn't the Plan A. There were 4 others who were pimped much more pre-lives. |
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I personally don't think it was OTT praise. Beneath Your Beautiful was absolutely beautiful in my opinion. But I can see that praise can sometimes end up grinding people's gears who may not necessarily agree.
Also she was never really pimped if you think about it pre-lives? Her room audition was never really shown (as a group Silver Rock which isn't even on the audition page), her bootcamp performance was first of the 6 to go through, her JH performance was first of the 6 again. Only her arena audition was massive and huge and pimp slotted. The rest weren't. Melanie and Hannah were much more. Sam B and Nick were even more than the whole lot. Which is another reason why I get the feeling she wasn't the Plan A. There were 4 others who were pimped much more. |
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You're completely right!
She was pimped to the max going into the live shows, producers must have thought they had struck gold. Then...she polls crap on the first vote. Next week, ANOTHER late slot and OTT praise, then....no change. So they moved on! |
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I personally don't think it was OTT praise. Beneath Your Beautiful was absolutely beautiful in my opinion. But I can see that praise can sometimes end up grinding people's gears who may not necessarily agree.
Also she was never really pimped if you think about it pre-lives? Her room audition was never really shown (as a group Silver Rock which isn't even on the audition page), her bootcamp performance was first of the 6 to go through, her JH performance was first of the 6 again. Only her arena audition was massive and huge and pimp slotted. The rest weren't. Melanie and Hannah were much more. Sam B and Nick were even more than the whole lot. Which is another reason why I get the feeling she wasn't the Plan A. There were 4 others who were pimped much more. As ever, whenever they try to smash through a contestant and almost try and force the public to like them (a la Ella Henderson), it totally backfires on them. |
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I'm certain she was Plan A but I actually think this has worked against Tamera. If they'd put her on the live shows without any hoo-hah and with no OTT praise from the judges, it's very possible none of the negative press stories would have emerged, and the public would have slowly warmed to Tamera as the live shows progressed.
As ever, whenever they try to smash through a contestant and almost try and force the public to like them (a la Ella Henderson), it totally backfires on them. The best OTT was Louis calling Sam a little Bryan Adams!
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