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Old 04-11-2013, 09:49
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I'd be interested to know if there are X Factor viewers who would judge a music artist on their private life rather than their musical ability.

Before you buy a record, do you check that the artist has never taken drugs or broken the law at any time?
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:57
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x factor is a Saturday night tv show which has become a glorified popularity contest and not a showcase for musical talent so asking a loaded question like you have is a waste of time
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:58
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It depends. I don't check because I very rarely buy the music, I'll have through Spotify or listen on YT. It comes down to the act as a person, are they an arrogant famedesperado, I judge Frankie Cocozza, because I think he wanted to be a musician for the wrong reasons.

I don't condone drugs or violence at all, and before some chimes in, with smoking is a drug or medicinal drugs, I mean the illegal kind.
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:59
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I'd be interested to know if there are X Factor viewers who would judge a music artist on their private life rather than their musical ability.

Before you buy a record, do you check that the artist has never taken drugs or broken the law at any time?
No, if i buy a CD its because i like the music. I am really not intersted in their privale lives.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:00
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I prefer them to be decent people. Decent people sometimes take drugs and break the law. So, generally, no, that is not a deciding factor. Many people who have never taken drugs or broken the law are far from decent.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:04
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Reading all the comments about what certain contestants have done in their private lives, made me wonder which music these viewers enjoy. Many of the big stars have things in their past that they wouldn't be proud of - it doesn't stop people buying their music, though - or does it?
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:06
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I'd be interested to know if there are X Factor viewers who would judge a music artist on their private life rather than their musical ability.

Before you buy a record, do you check that the artist has never taken drugs or broken the law at any time?
If we did that, then there'd be a lot fewer options available.

Many people have "broken the law," at some time, even if it's something like speeding, or using a mobile phone in places where they've been prohibited, like while you're driving.
Many have illegaly downloaded mp3s, or video clips..

I'm not that fussed by gossip about a particular artist's private lives..and it would depend on the extent of any law breaking as to whether I'd buy their material..

Truth is, there are some pretty dodgy characters out there making some wonderful music and some pretty wonderful people out there making some dodgy music..

If you look back through the history of Art/Lit/Music then there are some very unlikeable characters there who've done some pretty questionable things while producing amazing works of art.

I'm not that impressed by what I've read about Mozart, but love his music.
I'm even less impressed by what I know about Richard Wagner, yet there's no doubting the man's impact on the history of music.

From before Elvis, right up to the latest flames, pop/rock history is littered with characters who "broke the law," or took drugs and yet it didn't necessarily affect their record/album sales etc.

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Old 04-11-2013, 10:07
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I will buy music based on what I like to listen to and what I think is good but if an artist is quite obviously an "ass" then I will generally steer away.

If James Hetfield was a gun toting, drug taking dick, there is a good chance that I wouldn't have all of Metallica's stuff in my collection. Similarly, stuff that will never appear on my CD shelf would include the likes of Lady Gaga, Amy Winehouse, Michael Jackson etc......
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:09
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I prefer them to be decent people. Decent people sometimes take drugs and break the law. So, generally, no, that is not a deciding factor. Many people who have never taken drugs or broken the law are far from decent.
Bit random, but I bloody love your posts, louiethefly. You always make your points very reasonably and politely and I pretty much always agree with them.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:11
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If we did that, then there'd be a lot fewer options available.

Many people have "broken the law," at some time, even if it's something like speeding, or using a mobile phone in places where they've been prohibited, like while you're driving.
Many have illegaly downloaded mp3s, or video clips..

I'm not that fussed by gossip about a particular artist's private lives..and it would depend on the extent of any law breaking as to whether I'd buy their material..

Truth is, there are some pretty dodgy characters out there making some wonderful music and some pretty wonderful people out there making some dodgy music..

If you look back through the history of Art/Lit/Music then there are some very unlikeable characters there who've done some pretty questionable things while producing amazing works of art.

I'm not that impressed by what I've read about Mozart, but love his music.
I'm even less impressed by what I know about Richard Wagner, yet there's no doubting the man's impact on the history of music.

From before Elvis, right up to the latest flames, pop/rock history is littered with characters who "broke the law," or took drugs and yet it didn't necessarily affect their record/album sales etc.

Rich.,
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Really good points, and well made.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:12
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It's a matrix of talent versus personal life. The more brilliant they are the less anything personal counts, the more amateurish they are the more they need to be a kindly saint or have a sob story. I wouldn't hold drug use against anyone as I regard that as their personal issue to get over. Being a bully or a thief or drug dealer or a bigot means I won't vote for them. I think X Factor does its best to eliminate those with bad backgrounds as it is a family show and it knows they can't win or sell records and will taint the brand if any of that comes out.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:13
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Yes, looking at the greats of music, art, literature, etc., there are so many who have gone beyond the boundaries of 'acceptable' behaviour.

I think there may be a gender bias in what people find acceptable or not. Male performers who have overstepped the mark are regarded as loveable rogues, but people are less tolerant of girls who "do wrong".
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:16
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Yes, looking at the greats of music, art, literature, etc., there are so many who have gone beyond the boundaries of 'acceptable' behaviour.

I think there may be a gender bias in what people find acceptable or not. Male performers who have overstepped the mark are regarded as loveable rogues, but people are less tolerant of girls who "do wrong".
You just said a cotton picking thing!

I think that's often the case in life, in general..

For example, it's still in some quarters a bit of a "giggle," if a guy sows his wild oats and he's seen as a bit of a "lad," a "playboy," etc..but should a woman do the same?

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Old 04-11-2013, 10:19
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You just said a cotton picking thing!

I think that's often the case in life, in general..

For example, it's still in some quarters a bit of a "giggle," if a guy sows his wild oats and he's seen as a bit of a "lad," a "playboy," etc..but should a woman do the same?

Rich.
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I'm sure a lot of people would strenuously deny that there is a sexist element to this, but I'm sure there is.
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